NCAA Greatly Expands Drug Testing

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Good info....

Curious about this stament....

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"It's probably impossible to tell, but I like to think we don't have a problem with steroids in college baseball,..."

Hmmm...Wasn't it this kind of attitude that got us where we are in the first place?...

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Agree O44.....it kind of implies they are stepping up the drug testing program just for public relations?

No matter....it will get done.....good article, thanks.....

Curious about this statement from the article, too:

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--but two to five players per Division I team likely will be subjected to random tests. Drug Free Sport will work with coordinators at each school to select, notify and test players within a 48-hour period, whether the player is on campus or not.

If Drug Free Sport is working with "coordinators at each school to select, notify and test players", then that isn't necessarily "RANDOM", is it? And if it isn't truly RANDOM, then it loses its deterent effectiveness.

Absolutely LAUGHABLE policy.

They can't control what student/athletes does/do outside of the school/semesters. These are adults and not children.

Won't pass the 1st lawsuit.

Laughable, too, that they single out football and baseball and don't include basketball and lacrosse.

it sounds like public relations and agree with Beenthere

walk me thru this I'm slow to catch on sometimes

with about 300 DI baseball progams (37 players per team = 11,000 players), they will test roughly 1200 players randomly in a 48 hr period.

A) these players will be scattered over the 48 lower states + Alaska (OK ... Hawaii too )

B) many will be playing summer leagues, some will not

C) some have jobs, some will not

D) some have cars, some will not

E) most have phones, some will not

F) they will be notified (how?) testing will take place within 48 hrs

G) will they go to the nearest post office to P? who will watch them P?
who will affirm the the P belongs to the player & is not "rent-a-P"?

if the selections are truly random, they might need 1000+ people to collect samples, however they can't really know how many collectors are needed until selections are made and players located. (maybe they'll use Frapper )

they could send 6 guys out to 6 summer leagues to collect a certain number, but that wouldn't be random & many teams would have NO players tested ... that would really "P off" some leagues



call me skeptical, but the inconsistencies might be explained in the first 4 letters of the title
... NCAA

however, for expenses, I'll collect the Hawaii samples provided they'll fit in a carry-on
& I can get them thru security

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They can't control what student/athletes does/do outside of the school/semesters. These are adults and not children.

Sure they can. There's no law anywhere that guarantees the right to play D1 baseball. If you don't want to comply with the requirements, play D2, D3, NAIA...it's a free country.

The problem with this policy is that it's similar to cutting off your leg with a chainsaw, and looking in the medicine cabinet for a bandaid. It's practically useless.

The thought process is good....there's a lot of steroid use in Summer Leagues. Enforcement and logistics are the problem, and just like pro ball, substances that are picked up on blood screens won't show up on urine only tests.

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--but two to five players per Division I team likely will be subjected to random tests. Drug Free Sport will work with coordinators at each school to select, notify and test players within a 48-hour period, whether the player is on campus or not.

"2 to 5 players per D1 team likely will be subjected to random tests". Horsehockey. The players that should be tested won't be. The school coordinator will see to that.

This is merely window dressing since steroids are the "hot button" topic right now. Normally I would think that any testing is better than none...this plan, however, is a joke, and should be scrapped.

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there's a lot of steroid use in Summer Leagues

2seamer, how do you know that?

But, most of ya'll are correct.

That is a politcally correct "monkey see monkey do" NCAA.

Why Random, Test them all.
Three time's during the season.
Three time's during the off season.

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with about 300 DI baseball progams (37 players per team = 11,000 players), they will test roughly 1200 players randomly in a 48 hr period

Did the article say $180 per test. Saw that somewhere.
6 X $180 = $1080 per player per year

11,000 X $1080 = $11,880,000

I did the math for you.

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...it's a free country

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it kind of ? implies they are stepping up the drug testing program just for public relations?

...and I'm wondering why just the D1's?

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Life's too short to read drivel.

As stated in article:

""It's probably impossible to tell, but I like to think we don't have a problem with steroids in college baseball, but you get a trickle down with the exposure we've had the major league level. I think this will prove that it is not a problem in college baseball, and if it is, it will pressure to eliminate whatever problem is there."

In other words: "Houston, we have a problem".

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there's a lot of steroid use in Summer Leagues


2seamer, how do you know that?

My son has played summer ball. He has personal knowledge of teammates using steroids. Numerous friends of his playing on other summer teams have personal knowledge of players taking steroids, all in different leagues. They all know enough different people doing them that when you do the math, it's a substantial amount of players.

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...and I'm wondering why just the D1's?

Easy answer...money. Do an equal amount of testing in D2,D3, NAIA, JUCO...it would be a substantial amount of cashola. This is the "feel good" solution...enact a scatterbrained, doomed to failure plan, hype it as the NCAA's answer to steroid use, and...the problem is fixed.

Like I said before....horsehockey.

Soooooooooo......

Your a player in the Jayhawk league....or Alaska.

48 hours????

Road trips can be long and cell phones undependable....what will happen if they can't find somebody for 24-40 hours.

Sounds like trouble to me.

Keep in mind that alcohol leaves your system @ the rate of 1 OZ per hour while marajuana hangs around for more than 48 hours even if it's ingested only once. Not sure about roids but there are so many roid permutations that some will skate by. So it's still just a pot test for the most part.

Headed into NCAA regional play son's entire team got tested, before. And I do beleive it was done by the university. Why before, don't you test after competition?

In baseball told they look only for anphetmines, weed and steriods (illegal) and a slew of others for individual sports.

And why only Division 1?

Makes sense to test players when they return from summer regardless of whether they played or not.

I hope they test coaches, administrators and Myles Brand, too. Because given the logistical nightmare they claim they can get a hold of, somebody making these rules has got to be on crack.

Either test them all or test none.

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Originally posted by Tiger Paw Mom:


And why only Division 1?

I agree. Test all athletes--from all of the NCAA divisions, including the junior colleges, to NAIA. Include the coaches.

And then don't stop there. Test the high school athletes, too.


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But I'm not sure we are going to like the results.