Does a player at a D1 school have to attain his transfer before the start of the spring '08 semester to avoid the one year sit, or can it be obtained into the spring semester?
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I'm thinking it was a Dec date,
that info was in a previous topic that was deleted for unknown reasons ... maybe someone else can nail the exact date
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by "nail" I meant "precisely determine", and did not intend to offend anyone to the point where this post is deleted
that info was in a previous topic that was deleted for unknown reasons ... maybe someone else can nail the exact date
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by "nail" I meant "precisely determine", and did not intend to offend anyone to the point where this post is deleted
quote:by "nail" I meant "precisely determine", and did not intend to offend anyone to the point where this post is deleted
That's obviously a politically correct nail then.
The rule states that the player must be enrolled at the beginning of the spring semester.
quote:by "nail" I meant "precisely determine", and did not intend to offend anyone to the point where this post is deleted
Hey Bee> - You keep posting that someone is deleting posts all over the site. Rather than using inuendo to impune people, why don't you send Julie a pm to find out who has removed the posts you speak of and then work it out with them? I assure you it was not me as I think people can still derive value - even when you post like a moron.
One thing to keep in mind and it might explain your present dilemna is that the creator of a topic can be their own moderator. Thus, if they decided to delete their original post that started a thread and you also posted in that thread, then your brilliant observations will also unfortunately be deleted.
do appreciate the legaleze, I'll take you at your wordquote:by CD: I assure you it was not me as I think people can still derive value - even when you post like a moron
other than busting your chops for baiting a new webster who was trying to be helpful last week, I don't believe I mentioned you in any of my posts including the PM to MnMom.
btw, what is inuendo? (layman's terms please)
From my understanding this is the last mid year transfer opportunity without having to sit. Players will be allowed to transfer without penalty until the August 08' date that makes everything effective.
quote:Originally posted by Coach Merc:
From my understanding this is the last mid year transfer opportunity without having to sit. Players will be allowed to transfer without penalty until the August 08' date that makes everything effective.
Sorry Coach,
That is incorrect. They have to have completed a full semester at the school before the rule comes into effect.
From what I have been told by several college coaches if a player does not want to sit out they must transfer before the next semester. if they transfer at the end of the Spring semester they will have to sit out a full season.
I hope this helps.
I hope this helps.
from BA: "Since players will not be able to transfer without sitting out a year starting next summer, Polk is advising all players who are unlikely to make his 35-man roster to transfer in between semesters, the last chance to transfer freely"
the new rules language & Aug 2008 effective date is a bit confusing ..
agree - the deadline looms near
the new rules language & Aug 2008 effective date is a bit confusing ..
agree - the deadline looms near
I think Mr. Polk owes the affected freshman kids and parents of Mississippi State an apology. Same goes for all the oher coaches who overrecruit like this.
Can anyone explain how if at all this rule applies to D3 players that may be looking at transferring up to D1 or D2 or just to another D3?
It is my understanding the new transfer rule applies only to D1-D1 transfers.
Is this correct?
If someone transfers d3 to d1, they would NOT have to sit out a year....Correct????
Is this correct?
If someone transfers d3 to d1, they would NOT have to sit out a year....Correct????
I think you'll find that new DI rules apply to anyone transferring to DI, inc JC transfers (JCs would be eligable to play immediatly provided they meet academic progress requirements, when they arrive in fall, not when season begins as before)
I stand corrected................
Even players who were told to stay are leaving because of the misrepresentation told to them at Mississippi State. Coach Polk's only apology is that it is the NCAA's fault and for that he is sorry. Some of the boys told to leave do not have another place to play because they gave that up last year. Some are leaving to play at other schools even though they were asked to stay. Hopefully the new rules will stop the hoarding and misrepresentation to players so that future players don't have to go through what the players at MState have.
It looks like even with the new rules, the SEC schools, Arizona State etc. still signed a ton of kids (over recruiting??), so either a good handful get drafted or some of the kids currently at those schools are going to come back and find they no longer have a jersey. Per the paper, Arkansas has 16 verbal commitments - seems like a lot.
quote:even with the new rules,
The rules don't go into effect until next year and they don't affect over recruiting.
According to PGCrosschecker, here are the commmitments from schools with seemingly large recruiting classes...
Arizona State .........16
Central Florida........12
Florida................13
Georgia................13
North Carolina.........11
North Carolina State...10
South Carolina.........10
Vanderbilty............11
Of course these numbers are freshman commitments and don't include JC transfers...and, I believe these are self reported to PG, so the list if far from complete.
According to Rivals.com
Washington State.....10
Virginia.............11
Oregon State.........11
Arizona State .........16
Central Florida........12
Florida................13
Georgia................13
North Carolina.........11
North Carolina State...10
South Carolina.........10
Vanderbilty............11
Of course these numbers are freshman commitments and don't include JC transfers...and, I believe these are self reported to PG, so the list if far from complete.
According to Rivals.com
Washington State.....10
Virginia.............11
Oregon State.........11
Rosters have to be down to 30 by 08/09 season, and 27 by 09/10 season. That's 30/27 "counters". Not sure how that affects non-counters....i.e. walkons whether recruited or just coming from the student body.
quote:Originally posted by ARMYOFONE(RET):
Rosters have to be down to 30 by 08/09 season, and 27 by 09/10 season. That's 30/27 "counters". Not sure how that affects non-counters....i.e. walkons whether recruited or just coming from the student body.
Not rosters, scholarshipped players will be 30 then 27. Rosters will be capped at 35.
ARMY I think you are confusing scholarship with rosters. Rosters have to be down to 35 in the spring of 09.
Right..."counters" are players receiving athletic money....35 will be the cap for championship rosters?
To specify that: (a) there shall be an annual limit of 11.7
on the value of financial aid awards (equivalencies) to counters
and an annual limit of 27 (30 in 2008-09) on the total
number of counters in baseball at each institution; (b) an institution
shall provide each counter athletically related and
other countable financial aid that is equal to or greater than
25 percent of an equivalency; and (c) an institution shall declare,
by the day prior to its first scheduled contest in the
championship segment of the playing and practice season, a
squad of a maximum of 35 student-athletes who shall be eligible
to participate in countable athletically related activities
during the remainder of the championship segment.
on the value of financial aid awards (equivalencies) to counters
and an annual limit of 27 (30 in 2008-09) on the total
number of counters in baseball at each institution; (b) an institution
shall provide each counter athletically related and
other countable financial aid that is equal to or greater than
25 percent of an equivalency; and (c) an institution shall declare,
by the day prior to its first scheduled contest in the
championship segment of the playing and practice season, a
squad of a maximum of 35 student-athletes who shall be eligible
to participate in countable athletically related activities
during the remainder of the championship segment.
I assume your question is the same as your original oneon the previous page.
It doesn't affect non counters like walk ons. This is a reporting requirement by the schools to the NCAA. Since BB money is for 1 year and cannot be taken away until the full year for which it was given is finished. It is important to under stand that once reported and if a BB player who recieved countable BB money if that player was cut the coach loses a roster spot.
This also doesn't stop over recruiting and or limit walk ons.
It doesn't affect non counters like walk ons. This is a reporting requirement by the schools to the NCAA. Since BB money is for 1 year and cannot be taken away until the full year for which it was given is finished. It is important to under stand that once reported and if a BB player who recieved countable BB money if that player was cut the coach loses a roster spot.
This also doesn't stop over recruiting and or limit walk ons.