Notre Dame Football

recruiting.

It is a critical time for recruiting for all colleges. The only chance ND has to keep its early recruits is to get a coach on board ASAP.

Smart move by ND. Cincinnati and its players, however, are left in the lurch, and unfairly so in a perfect world.

Very unclassy on the part of ND, but I'm not sure what else could have been expected. It's a big, big business.

I'm not sure who is unclassy in this:

1. Notre Dame
2. Brian Kelly
3. The coach-changing process?

Wouldn't Kelly beating Florida be a great recruiting tool for him as he moves to ND?

As a devout Hokie fan, my reaction to Notre Dame is:


yawn, ho hum

When the now former players don't even applaud, with some walking out of the "farewell meeting", it shows that Kelly has a character issue. He hasn't impressed me with his demeanor on TV with his players and coaches in the slightest.

I suspect the ND roller coaster will continue, which is fine with me. They seem to want to be the New York Yankees of college football, but even with their own TV network (NDBC), their track record in recent years isn't good. You can't buy college players, and lots of big time schools have overwhelming facilities and programs. Some day they will figure out they need to join a good conference.

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"I suspect the ND roller coaster will continue, which is fine with me."

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Not only is the head coach leaving, but his coordinators and several position coaches are going with him. Cincinatti is screwed from a recruiting standpoint. Will the waterboy coach the bowl game? I wouldn't take Cincinatti and twenty points against Florida.

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I'm not sure who is unclassy in this:

1. Notre Dame
2. Brian Kelly
3. The coach-changing process?

It for sure is Notre Dame. To make an announcement during ESPN's awards show last night was tacky. To take attention away from well deserving players who proved it on the field to get attention on your off the field coaching change speaks volumes about that school.

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AWARD-WINNING CINCINNATI CHILI RECIPE

My friend has won every Chili Cookoff and Super Bowl bet she has ever entered with this recipe. It is unique in that it is spiced with cinnamon, chocolate, and one very effective ingredient guaranteed to move a team. It is served over vermicelli or thin spaghetti. To top it off, use cheese, pinto and/or kidney beans, onion, oyster crackers and Frank's Red Hot©. Make this recipe only if proper facilities are in place to handle the results.

Winning Cincinnati Chili

1 PICK-UP LOAD ground beef.
150 LB medium onion, finely chopped.
200 cloves of garlic, minced.
20 CUPS chili powder.
1 KNAPSACK unsweetened cocoa.
1 5 LB BAG EACH dry mustard, cumin, paprika and salt.
12 CUPS EACH cayenne pepper and black pepper.
6 CUPS EACH allspice, cardamom, cinnamon and cloves.
2 30 GAL TRASH CANS (preferably clean) crushed tomatoes (or in this case oranges).
10 #10 CANS tomato sauce.
3 CASES Fleets Phospho-Soda© colonoscopy prep kits.
Run the hose for a minute or two for water or suit to taste.

Cook ground beef (don't forget to take it out of the truck), onions, and garlic in the largest pan you have ever seen or 400 Dutch ovens over medium high heat until meat loses red color (or until the headlights turn off if you forgot to remove the truck). Pour off drippings, and if necessary crankcase oil, brake fluid, and coolant. Stir in remaining ingredients. Bring to boil, reduce heat, adjust the seat, and simmer uncovered for 1-1 1/2 hours or 150 miles whichever comes first.

Serve over vermicelli, thin spaghetti noodles, or those wiring harnesses you won't be needing anymore.

Top with:

Finely shredded cheddar cheese.
Pinto and/or kidney beans.
Finely chopped onion.
Oyster crackers.
Frank's Red Hot©.
Any knobs, change, or bottle caps that cooked loose.

Feeds one highly ranked football team.



With a smiling face and restrained laughter serve to the entire voracious Gator team. Stand way, way back and enjoy!

And a reminder...don't skimp on the porta-potties. And it will help to keep the doors propped open! Oh...the firehose. Have a few of those handy.





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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:

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I'm not sure who is unclassy in this:

1. Notre Dame
2. Brian Kelly
3. The coach-changing process?

It for sure is Notre Dame. To make an announcement during ESPN's awards show last night was tacky. To take attention away from well deserving players who proved it on the field to get attention on your off the field coaching change speaks volumes about that school.

In their eyes nothing is bigger and more important than Notre Dame football. It's why they're so easy to root against.

I love all this ND stuff--I had a carpenter forman years back, strict catholic, who used to argue with me that they didn't do "favors" for the football recruits when they were annually in the Top 10---now that the playing field has leveled things ain't the same---the ND people do not realize it yet but they are now just like all the other football "powers"

And yeah I understand the business end of it all but Kelly screwed his Cincy kids--You had to like the Cincy senior who stated publicly that " we made the plans--he isn't needed--we will do what we have to"

Kids transfer and get a one year sit out--coaches transfer and the school they leave gets a Million dollar payoff while,the coach gets a huge increase in pay and no penalty to the coach--Yeah Right !!!!!

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Originally posted by biggerpapi:
Wouldn't Kelly beating Florida be a great recruiting tool for him as he moves to ND?

The devils advocate asks.......

Wouldn't a blue chip prospect be impressed if the future ND coach would rather sit in his living than on the sideline with another team playing in a BCS bowl? Many would think it is showing a commitment to his new program.

This seems like the perfect time to recruit because many of the power teams you are competing for recruits with are preparing for a bowl.

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Kids transfer and get a one year sit out--coaches transfer and the school they leave gets a Million dollar payoff while,the coach gets a huge increase in pay and no penalty to the coach--Yeah Right !!!!!

Here's the one I hate. The coach leaves just ahead of the NCAA hound dogs. The team ends up on probation, the players can't do a bowl trip and the coach gets away free at a new program.

Lou Holtz was caught cheating everywhere but Notre Dame. Did he find God at Notre Dame? I doubt it. The joke used to be every time Holtz was caught cheating at Notre Dame a second tier program in the region would be put on probation as a warning the NCAA is watching.

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screwed his Cincy kids

Trhit

Nothing wron with taking the job but the timing is just awful. why Notre Dame and Kelly could not have waited till after the Bowl game is beyond me. Those players at cincinatti were never thought of in this matter. Who cares about them? Well evidently no one involved. Sad

Just think of the chaos we would have had if they would not have added a second to the clock in the Big 12 championship....

1-Texas would not be in the championship,
2-TCU would still be ticked off because Cincy would be in,
3-Cincy would be playing for the mythical NC without a headcoach.

Wow.

What bugs me the most about this kind of thing is that you are always hearing from coaches about staying with the program, the team is more important than the player. Sacrifice for the good of the team.

Then a big time coach pulls this !@#@#. No wonder there isn't any loyalty. The me first attitude starts at the top and works its way to the players. Not the other way around.

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Originally posted by Doughnutman:

The me first attitude starts at the top and works its way to the players. Not the other way around.

Narcissim at it's finest!

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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
Just think of the chaos we would have had if they would not have added a second to the clock in the Big 12 championship....

1-Texas would not be in the championship,
2-TCU would still be ticked off because Cincy would be in,
3-Cincy would be playing for the mythical NC without a headcoach.

Wow.

If Cincy was in the "snicker" "snicker" national chapionship game there is no way he takes the Notre Dame job. He's getting ripped enough as it is but imagine how bad it would be if he did that.

Probably wait until after the "giggle" "giggle" national championship game to take the job if he did. But that would still get him roasted.

The NCAA should implement a rule coaches can't be interviewed until their season is over. It's the only way to protect the players.

There's nothing wrong with Kelly taking the Notre Dame job. It's considered one of the most prestigious coaching jobs in sports. But the timing was classless by Kelly and Notre Dame. The hell with recruiting. Show some respect and class. You don't walk out of a real job the day you submit your resignation unless the company shows you the door.

Besides, college football isn't big business and big bucks. It's about student-athletes.

Under his breath the evil side of rz1 is saying

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How soon we forget what these kids are going to school for. It's not for a BCS bowl, its for an education (tuition, room, board). The backside is athletics and the pursuit of a potential pro contract. We also forget that the coaches contract is not with the NCAA, it's with the school or maybe we want the NCAA have more power than it now has. Maybe Cinci should have written in his contract that he could not pursue/interview/accept another job until the ongoing season was completed.

These are not necessarily my opinions, rather an argument from another dimension.

Put yourself in Kelly's spot, Would you have done different? Would you have sacrificed your families lifelong financial well-being and your professional dream for 80 kids who will be gone, and for the most part out of your life in 3 years or less?

If yes, you would do different, then the Univ of Cinci is your retirement village.

Put yourself in the ND AD's spot, Would you have done different? If you were the CEO of a top 10 corp and the R&D group reported that you would lose the patents on new products unless they could be secured promptly, and the bean counter said future years like the past are not acceptable, and the Sales Dept predicted that a sudden earth shaking news flash would be the best thing for future profits. Would you postpone that hiring decision for a more "pc" time?

If yes, you would do different, then that golden dome over your office may be replaced with golden arches.

I do see the method behind Kelly's and ND maddness. Do I like it....personally no, but, it's their business and not mine. If this hiring scenario were to happen at Freakin U, not a post would be mentioned on this site but the same number of players lives would be affected.

IMO, The monster was created and supported by the media and ever growing alumni numbers with deep pockets, loud voices, and selfish values.

In baseball it also happens at all levels, but to different degrees. From LL's to travel teams to HS, to college to pros there will always be someone trying to buy/steal the top rung. As parents we can use these examples as a tool to teach our kids that the world is not a bed of roses but if you give 110% on and off the field, be your own person, respect others, you will succeed, and have a good chance of beating the system on your terms.