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My son was in the middle of a hitting slump. 0 for 7 last two games and was spending alot of time thinking about what he did wrong. Well his last game I told him to stop and hit the ball when you see it. Sure enough he broke out of it. I told him just do what you do naturally and stop worrying about previous at bats. You can control your next at bat not the last 7. Sometimes not thinking about this complex game and just going up there with an open mind can improve some aspects. Sort of like letting the game come to you.
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baseballbum,
Sounds good but I'm sorry it doesn't quite work that way --- wish it did! If it were that simple there would no such thing as a slump. Trust me, those very words have been said thousands of times before with less than favorable results. I guess I have personally said it at least 50 times! Big Grin
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I wish I knew the answer to this one also. My son plays JUCO and is in a hitting slump to beat all slumps! He redshirted last year which was a good move academically but this year he can't get a hit to save his life. He's making contact but not getting hits. The longer this goes on the worse it is getting in his head. He hit the ball great during fall season, hit good this past summer. Any suggestions...
Well, he's usually hitting infield grounders or popping up. The contact isn't beneficial to the game. He said the biggest problem is he's swinging at bad pitches. He doesn't have the confidence he used to have and he wants it so badly at this point that he's making bad judgement calls. In his words, "I'm at automatic out right now".His whole game is off. He is so discouraged but I'll give him credit, he feels he will bounce back but he feels he's letting the coach and his team down. I know he can do it because he played great during both fall seasons, he has the ability. I quess he does have to sort it out himself, it's just really hard watching him go through this.
As many of you probably know, most slumps are mental (of course, there are ones where mechanics just go bad). The important thing to remember is if you are trying to hit .333 on the year, don't try to think of it as trying to hit 1-3 every game, that's way too much pressure to put on yourself for every game. However, try to think of it as trying to hit 30-90 on the year, so if you have a basd game, just forget about it....

...this seems to make more sense in my head then on the discussion board...
Slumps...


First of all 0-7 is not a slump Joe Morgan went 0-36 once...that is a slump


I shot 92 in golf and 2 weeks later 72. Your mechanics can get way off where your swing is not working.

I see many colleges spread all the player out wide , muscle up, and rotate. They put the same swing on all ball locations. Great players moved their bodies to match the pitch.
Here is an update on mine. I think he may be coming out of it a little. This past weekend he walked, went 2 for 5, one of those hits being a homerun. He played defense really well and he feels he is on the upswing. In watching him, he seemed to be more confident at the plate, watching his pitches better and more in control in general. We'll see if the trend will continue. I agree 100% that these slumps are mostly mental because his swing is good and during practice, when he's relaxed, he hits great. Keep your fingers crossed.
AU,

sounds like he is getting it done. My son has gone 6 for 8 in the past two games. He is more comfortable at the plate and we have changed two things with his swing. First one was to have his front knee on landing remain closed and having his hips open up his foot not the opposite. Also his stride is not as high, he had a high kick going into his swing. We changed both and found success. So much for just having fun and swinging!


Take care.
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My 12YO son is in the midst of one of his worst slumps ever and at the worst possible time - Little League All-Stars. After only K'ing 6x over a 21-game season, he's K'ed 4x in 4 games (and has 2 hits). Usually, one might attribute that to simply facing better pitching in All-Stars. However, that has not been the case, as 3 of these 4 games have been cakewalks, facing similar pitching to regular season.

He's still pounding the ball in the cage and during BP, but in games, he appears to have NO confidence. "I'm terrible" were his words after a recent game.

Now... my son, like his Dad, is a deep thinker and sometimes can't stay out of his own way [mentally]. But I'm quite sure here's how he got this way. Last year, as an 11YO, he played every inning of every game at 2B during All-Stars and batted 4th. He delivered too, leading the team in average, OBP, RBIs and had his first HR. He also made only 1 error over 7 games.

This year tho... the manager seemed to fall in love w/ coach-pitched BP HR Derby at practices and the kids who hit the most HRs in practice are getting the most playing time and batting in the top of the order. My son is now a 3-4 inning player at 3B or LF, batting 7th or 8th.

Now I certainly wouldn't mind that if he'd actually been given the opportunity to compete for "his" position (2B and top 5 in the order) and lost it; but that hasn't been the case. Instead, the manager brought an 11YO from his regular season team, and he's been desperately trying to showcase him. He batted him 2nd for 3 games. When he got 0 hits, he finally moved him down to 9th. He also pitched him a game, but [as many predicted], he got lit up for 3 HRs and 6 runs. Now, he moved him in from LF to 2B. You see, our league has a guideline that "if you bring an 11YO onto the team, he s/b expected to start and play 5+ innings". IOW, don't bring him up over a 12YO to be a sub. But the manager has translated this into "I have to [more like 'get to'!] start him every game" [regardless of performance].

I've tried to help my son stay focused on making the best of the time he does get, but he just feels during every AB like "if I don't get a hit this time, I'm going to be benched". And that's exactly what has happened at least a couple games. Right after he makes an out, his sub comes in and plays the next 2 or 3 innings. And the kid he splits games w/ is one of the coaches sons, a player who by most estimations, would be a 1-inning player if his father wasn't a coach.

I know this is just part of baseball, but it's so tough for a 12YO to deal with, when in his mind, he came into All-Stars as a returning proven veteran, had a good regular season (only 1 HR, but lots of doubles/triples/singles) and thought he'd be given a chance to compete for more playing time.

Of course, then we get into games and the kids who have the luxury of playing 5 or 6 innings are much more relaxed and do produce (at least vs. weak pitching because in the only game they faced a true "All-Star caliber" pitcher, the first 4 batters of the game K'ed and we only put up 1 run), whereas the kids who play 1-3 innings are anxiously pressing in every AB. This is tough on all kids for sure, but I suspect even tougher to have HAD the opportunity (last year) and produced, then had it taken away.

I've talked w/ my son about "staying in the moment" and using breathing techniques to relieve tension, etc., but it's still hard for him to do. He did manage a double in the gap the last game (weak pitching), but he also had a very ugly/confused/inconfident K earlier that game.

I've also suggested that he think of the life of an MLB pinch hitter (i.e. Sierra) and how they must remain calm/focused for if/when they get a chance to hit (every few games).

This is all probably good stuff to consider, but still very hard for a 12YO to implement.

Any other ideas? I just want this tournament to END and move on to helping him prepare for Cooperstown next month, followed by fall ball on the big field. Frown
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Originally posted by Sandman:
My 12YO son is in the midst of one of his worst slumps ever and at the worst possible time - Little League All-Stars. After only K'ing 6x over a 21-game season, he's K'ed 4x in 4 games (and has 2 hits). Usually, one might attribute that to simply facing better pitching in All-Stars. However, that has not been the case, as 3 of these 4 games have been cakewalks, facing similar pitching to regular season.

He's still pounding the ball in the cage and during BP, but in games, he appears to have NO confidence. "I'm terrible" were his words after a recent game.

Now... my son, like his Dad, is a deep thinker and sometimes can't stay out of his own way [mentally]. But I'm quite sure here's how he got this way. Last year, as an 11YO, he played every inning of every game at 2B during All-Stars and batted 4th. He delivered too, leading the team in average, OBP, RBIs and had his first HR. He also made only 1 error over 7 games.

This year tho... the manager seemed to fall in love w/ coach-pitched BP HR Derby at practices and the kids who hit the most HRs in practice are getting the most playing time and batting in the top of the order. My son is now a 3-4 inning player at 3B or LF, batting 7th or 8th.

Now I certainly wouldn't mind that if he'd actually been given the opportunity to compete for "his" position (2B and top 5 in the order) and lost it; but that hasn't been the case. Instead, the manager brought an 11YO from his regular season team, and he's been desperately trying to showcase him. He batted him 2nd for 3 games. When he got 0 hits, he finally moved him down to 9th. He also pitched him a game, but [as many predicted], he got lit up for 3 HRs and 6 runs. Now, he moved him in from LF to 2B. You see, our league has a guideline that "if you bring an 11YO onto the team, he s/b expected to start and play 5+ innings". IOW, don't bring him up over a 12YO to be a sub. But the manager has translated this into "I have to [more like 'get to'!] start him every game" [regardless of performance].

I've tried to help my son stay focused on making the best of the time he does get, but he just feels during every AB like "if I don't get a hit this time, I'm going to be benched". And that's exactly what has happened at least a couple games. Right after he makes an out, his sub comes in and plays the next 2 or 3 innings. And the kid he splits games w/ is one of the coaches sons, a player who by most estimations, would be a 1-inning player if his father wasn't a coach.

I know this is just part of baseball, but it's so tough for a 12YO to deal with, when in his mind, he came into All-Stars as a returning proven veteran, had a good regular season (only 1 HR, but lots of doubles/triples/singles) and thought he'd be given a chance to compete for more playing time.

Of course, then we get into games and the kids who have the luxury of playing 5 or 6 innings are much more relaxed and do produce (at least vs. weak pitching because in the only game they faced a true "All-Star caliber" pitcher, the first 4 batters of the game K'ed and we only put up 1 run), whereas the kids who play 1-3 innings are anxiously pressing in every AB. This is tough on all kids for sure, but I suspect even tougher to have HAD the opportunity (last year) and produced, then had it taken away.

I've talked w/ my son about "staying in the moment" and using breathing techniques to relieve tension, etc., but it's still hard for him to do. He did manage a double in the gap the last game (weak pitching), but he also had a very ugly/confused/inconfident K earlier that game.

I've also suggested that he think of the life of an MLB pinch hitter (i.e. Sierra) and how they must remain calm/focused for if/when they get a chance to hit (every few games).

This is all probably good stuff to consider, but still very hard for a 12YO to implement.

Any other ideas? I just want this tournament to END and move on to helping him prepare for Cooperstown next month, followed by fall ball on the big field. Frown



Throw him soft toss using mini marshmallows and a broom handle or a small barrel wiffle bat, until he hits 20 in a row. Use the whole bag no matter what, even if it takes a few days. The baseball looks huge after doing this and will help his confidence. His slump is a focus problem, too many other thoughts going on in his head.
Thanks for the reply mic. But he's mashing the ball in BP and in our cage, so I don't think it's a "seeing the ball" issue. Rather, I agree w/ you that there's just too much going through his head at the plate ("Will this be my only AB this game?", "Will I be subbed for immediately if I don't get a hit here?", etc.)
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Originally posted by baseballbum:
My son was in the middle of a hitting slump. 0 for 7 last two games and was spending alot of time thinking about what he did wrong. Well his last game I told him to stop and hit the ball when you see it. Sure enough he broke out of it. I told him just do what you do naturally and stop worrying about previous at bats. You can control your next at bat not the last 7. Sometimes not thinking about this complex game and just going up there with an open mind can improve some aspects. Sort of like letting the game come to you.


0 for 7 is not a slump!

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