I bet he wished he had.
quote:Some in Dallas have firsthand knowledge of Craig James meddling on behalf of his son Adam in baseball. When he was 17 Adam was cut loose from his summer team for this very reason.
Who did he play summer ball with, Natural?
Yep, it's a game to some, and life or death to others. What a shame.
Interesting article in the Dallas Morning News...makes Leach's story rather hard to believe. Note the dates.
Tech releases affidavits that differ from statements produced by Leach representative
Tech releases affidavits that differ from statements produced by Leach representative
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Interesting article in the Dallas Morning News...makes Leach's story rather hard to believe. Note the dates.
Tech releases affidavits that differ from statements produced by Leach representative
ESPN has been breathlessly reporting this all night, along with Craig James ever so smugly feeling vindicated reaction.
So what are you to believe? The statements given to Leach's attorneys or the statement given to the people who sign your paycheck?
quote:So what are you to believe?
I'm to believe Avatar is probably the best movie I have ever seen. Go see it in the 3D/large screen version. Simply stunning. Sorry, been at the movie tonight and just tuned into the game/web. But the statements given to the employer were before this all blew up if I have my dates right.
I will always take a signed, sworn affidavit over a PR release from a coach who was desperate to have his medical staff him help cover his butt.
Where has this backup QB for TT been all season???? He comes off the bench and is throwing laser beams. Only incompletion is a drop and two 4th down conversions and now a 2nd TD drive to pull away from a s****** MSU team. Seriously this dude is awesome and his numbers in limited playing time are pretty darn good.
Ruffin McNeil is probably the new Texas Tech coach barring a huge collapse.
Ruffin McNeil is probably the new Texas Tech coach barring a huge collapse.
He beat Nebraska...the same defense Colt McCoy couldn't do anything against. He's good...tonight wasn't a fluke.
Wow, what a compelling game with the storyline. Fantastic job by the 2nd string QB as well as the interim coach. Post game interview "I'm country as an egg" how can you not love this guy? Very interesting to follow this whole story as it continues to develop.
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Uh Tx, ol' boy. I'm 'cerned 'bout ya'. This drinkin' of yers has gotten outta hand and I think it's sumthin' you oughta' face up to...
I know even cowboys get the blues, but this is just too much!
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Uh Tx, ol' boy. I'm 'cerned 'bout ya'. This drinkin' of yers has gotten outta hand and I think it's sumthin' you oughta' face up to...
I know even cowboys get the blues, but this is just too much!
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Mitch Albom just gave an amusing analysis of this situation. The AD that fired Leach is the same AD that hired Bobby Knight. Perhaps there is more to this firing than just Leach's behavior?
It's just a 24 hour blue bug, Woody. I should be fine shortly.
That's nothing. Nothing at all. Look at him. That kid's out of shape for a receiver.
Agree VD, that's nothing. Disagree though about being out of shape. Just looks like a wide receiver with size.
Yeah, he needs a little bulk for inside, I guess. He's made some catches. I remember seeing him play, because they always said, 'that's Craig James' son, by the way...'. I don't know where the playing-time complaint comes in. There's only only one ball and that looks like a tough line up to crack.
But, the video also shows what some coaches and players have said all along.
But, the video also shows what some coaches and players have said all along.
This just in.... According to News Channel 11 in Lubbock.
01/09/2010
Tuberville to be named TTU football coach
LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - NewsChannell 11 has learned that Tommy Tuberville will be the next football coach for Texas Tech. An official announcement is expected Monday.
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01/09/2010
Tuberville to be named TTU football coach
LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - NewsChannell 11 has learned that Tommy Tuberville will be the next football coach for Texas Tech. An official announcement is expected Monday.
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Let's not be so naive as to think he is the only coach who is pretty vocal when not happy.
I am not saying I agree, but I am not surprised.
I am not saying I agree, but I am not surprised.
Come on guys. Coaches get after kids like that all the time. This is serious business. The kid is getting his education paid for. The coach doesnt win he gets fired. Your preparing kids for a very violent game that requires tremendous discipline. If a kid is playing college football and he can not handle a coach ripping him like that he needs to go do something else.
I don't think you have to do it. I dont think you have to curse kids. I don't think every coach does it. But lets be honest it happens at many locations across the country and kids know it and understand it. My hs coach would rip you a new one. It certainly got your attention. It made you focus I can tell you that.
I don't think you have to do it. I dont think you have to curse kids. I don't think every coach does it. But lets be honest it happens at many locations across the country and kids know it and understand it. My hs coach would rip you a new one. It certainly got your attention. It made you focus I can tell you that.
Getting ripped hurts your feelings and is embarassing but it's not the end of the world. It is a learning / teaching tool just like many other things. Society is so worried about not being embarassed or having feelings hurt that getting ripped loses it's ability to teach. One thing to remember is getting ripped is not an everytime tool - it needs to be used sparingly in order to be effective. But the problem is when society says it's wrong and should never happen then kids focus on how the message is delivered rather than what the message is. The purpose of ripping someone is because you have tried other means to get their attention to teach them something.
But when parents and everyone runs to their "defense" the message is lost and that chance at learning something is lost. Life is tough and it takes tough people to get to through it. When you shelter kids from everything bad they don't have the tools needed in order to handle the bad stuff. Now you create an emotional roller coaster. Something basic that is done well is taken to an unnatural high because everything in their life is celebrated to be the greatest thing ever - the all star everyone gets a trophy syndrome. But the bad becomes unnaturally low because they've never experienced any type of bad stuff. So when they get ripped it's the worse thing in the world and they don't know how to handle it.
Getting ripped is not the worse thing in the world but it's a teaching tool to help you learn to handle bad things. Trust me I got ripped quite a bit growing up. I hated it, I was embarassed and it made me feel bad but I learned if I didn't want to experience those feelings again I shouldn't do what I did to emote that response.
That is the point we are losing and with the Texas Tech situation I think Leach is a guy who will get onto you quickly and James is a sheltered person who didn't know how to handle it. He felt he was better than everyone else and standard rules don't apply to him. So when he was challenged by Leach James now went after him. Leach ended up being hard headed and stubborn to try and "fight" back. It cost him his job. What Leach probably should have done (not sure since I wasn't there and not privy to all info) is said "James if your hurt then stay in the trainer's room. We're going to move ahead without you because that is what we do and that is what life is about. You want to get back then you better perform 100 times better than the person who is replacing you. Your attitude stinks and you're not a very good teammate. YOu want back in - you earn it. Other than that you can stay her for all I care."
Leach suing the school and stuff tells me he's one of two things - he's either actually innocent because he's fighting for his name and he should OR he's a complete idiot if he's guilty of mistreating James trying to fight this like he is.
But when parents and everyone runs to their "defense" the message is lost and that chance at learning something is lost. Life is tough and it takes tough people to get to through it. When you shelter kids from everything bad they don't have the tools needed in order to handle the bad stuff. Now you create an emotional roller coaster. Something basic that is done well is taken to an unnatural high because everything in their life is celebrated to be the greatest thing ever - the all star everyone gets a trophy syndrome. But the bad becomes unnaturally low because they've never experienced any type of bad stuff. So when they get ripped it's the worse thing in the world and they don't know how to handle it.
Getting ripped is not the worse thing in the world but it's a teaching tool to help you learn to handle bad things. Trust me I got ripped quite a bit growing up. I hated it, I was embarassed and it made me feel bad but I learned if I didn't want to experience those feelings again I shouldn't do what I did to emote that response.
That is the point we are losing and with the Texas Tech situation I think Leach is a guy who will get onto you quickly and James is a sheltered person who didn't know how to handle it. He felt he was better than everyone else and standard rules don't apply to him. So when he was challenged by Leach James now went after him. Leach ended up being hard headed and stubborn to try and "fight" back. It cost him his job. What Leach probably should have done (not sure since I wasn't there and not privy to all info) is said "James if your hurt then stay in the trainer's room. We're going to move ahead without you because that is what we do and that is what life is about. You want to get back then you better perform 100 times better than the person who is replacing you. Your attitude stinks and you're not a very good teammate. YOu want back in - you earn it. Other than that you can stay her for all I care."
Leach suing the school and stuff tells me he's one of two things - he's either actually innocent because he's fighting for his name and he should OR he's a complete idiot if he's guilty of mistreating James trying to fight this like he is.
C'mon Coaches and TPM,
Nobody said a thing about what Leach was doing in that video was wrong. As a matter of fact, I think both comments were "That's nothing" and "Agree VD, that's nothing". Take your coaching hats off for a second and relax!
Nobody said a thing about what Leach was doing in that video was wrong. As a matter of fact, I think both comments were "That's nothing" and "Agree VD, that's nothing". Take your coaching hats off for a second and relax!
Ok. I will relax.
The problem here is that nobody has all the REAL information-- and we are all making assumptions---being from the "old school" this is all childs play to me---the kids today are too pampered and the parents need to learn to sit in the stands and just root for THE TEAM, not the player--I can tell you that my DAD would never even talk to the coach regarding anything, in fact I would not bring a problem home to him because he would luagh at me and simple say "deal with it"---most kids today won't, don't and cannot deal with it
Texas Tech University announced they will hold a news conference Sunday, 2PM CST, where an official announcement is expected on the hiring of Coach Tuberville. The news conference will be live from the TTU's United Spirit Arena.
For more check out:Tuberville GUNS UP!!!
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The thing I don't understand is exactly how did Leach harm James?
This sounds almost like a parent telling their child to go sit in the corner or maybe grounding the child. The way I see it, Leach did nothing that endangered the kid, concussion or not! Didn't even touch him or physically abuse him in any way! Pretty soon coaches will lose control of their teams. Every day, there is a coach out there doing something that could be considered abusive. What's worse... Making someone run sprints on a 100 degree turf field after they are already gassed... or telling someone to go sit in a room? The actual drills are more dangerous and physically abusive than what Leach did to James. Oh yea, I forget... it's the disrespect that was shown. Football coaches can't show any disrespect to their players. What world is like that?
It cost Leach his job in order to hopefully teach a spoiled kid a lesson. Personally, I think James would be better off today if he would have just kept his mouth shut. That goes for James SR, too. They got what they wanted, but now the whole world knows how they are.
I really think this was just what the administrators were looking for... A reason to get rid of a coach they were tired of dealing with!
That's about the way I see all of this.
This sounds almost like a parent telling their child to go sit in the corner or maybe grounding the child. The way I see it, Leach did nothing that endangered the kid, concussion or not! Didn't even touch him or physically abuse him in any way! Pretty soon coaches will lose control of their teams. Every day, there is a coach out there doing something that could be considered abusive. What's worse... Making someone run sprints on a 100 degree turf field after they are already gassed... or telling someone to go sit in a room? The actual drills are more dangerous and physically abusive than what Leach did to James. Oh yea, I forget... it's the disrespect that was shown. Football coaches can't show any disrespect to their players. What world is like that?
It cost Leach his job in order to hopefully teach a spoiled kid a lesson. Personally, I think James would be better off today if he would have just kept his mouth shut. That goes for James SR, too. They got what they wanted, but now the whole world knows how they are.
I really think this was just what the administrators were looking for... A reason to get rid of a coach they were tired of dealing with!
That's about the way I see all of this.
Agree 100%!
Leach fires back. I found this posted on another website.
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com...on/Leach3Amended.pdf
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com...on/Leach3Amended.pdf
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Leach fires back. I found this posted on another website.
Wow. Thanks for that. Sounds like Leach was railroaded.
For as far as I scanned the document it was James this, James that, James, James, James, ad nauseum. It's Leach's attorney's adaptation of the truth. I'm willing to bet Leach's removal goes a lot deeper than just James. But James is the only argument possibly in his favor.
If Leach just wouldn't have put the kid in timeout he'd probably be the head coach at Tennessee right now...