The best and worst coaches in High school DFW area

I graduated from Greenville High school back in 1978. I think we were the laughing stock of 12-4A back then.

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Originally posted by aplanodad15:
With the history of posters on this board, I'm not sure anything but winning % is important to most of these parents.

That is a fairly negative and broad-stroke comment about a large group of people. I have found most of the parents that post here are good-natured people who share an interest.

Would you care to be more specific about what you mean...or was it a general comment thrown out there with no real forethought?

Rowlett's coah is very good.

"most of these parents" does not include "all" of the parents. My son, like most on this board, has been in select ball for the past 8 years. The parents who care enough about baseball to frequent this site are usually the more "competitive" parents, hence winning is more important. Besides, this board would shrink quite a bit if only posts with "much forethought" were aloud.

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Originally posted by aplanodad15:
"most of these parents" does not include "all" of the parents. My son, like most on this board, has been in select ball for the past 8 years. The parents who care enough about baseball to frequent this site are usually the more "competitive" parents, hence winning is more important. Besides, this board would shrink quite a bit if only posts with "much forethought" were aloud.

So, if you are posting and frequenting this site does that make you "competitive" too?

I don't think competitive is an inherently negative trait for parents or players ...competitive to me means you have drive and purpose. Sure, we all like to see our sons win but to me it is not the most important thing...to me, development and progress of the team and player is more important than winning.

By the way, aplanodad15, We are glad you've joined us! Welcome to the site!

This topic is nothing more than a time filler until we get another 2 months out of the way.

Best coach I've seen around here in the past 25 years was the Duncanville coach. Winning is the name of the game.

Somebody start a new topic and let's quit talking about (I)ndividuals, and start talking about teams. Who is going to make the noise in 5A and 4A in the DFW area.

Since some have decided to point out attendance as criteria, why not use the measure of a coach, the same as has been used as a measure of a country....

Tony Blair has been credited with stating...

"A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at....how many want in....and how many want to get out.

Baseballmom, your son got to play for a great man. Period. One of my son's got to play for two great men.

I second that on Coach Cook at Frisco. He's my coach right now at FHS and not only is he a great coach but he's a great person as well, he loves and respects his players. Hopefully we can help put this team back in the playoffs this year for him...great guy

I've got a question to what makes a good coach?

Our highschool team went to the third round of playoffs two years ago. I've talked to the players from that team and they told me that he let them just play. Let them do what they were used to do. This team had alot of talent though. I think that four players played D1 baseball after and two on scholarships.(oklahoma, xavier, kansas, arkansas). So my question is if you let your players play the game not trying to fix their mechanics but just letting them do what they always have done.
Does that make you a good coach?

If so then Jesuit College Prep- Kevin Williamson and Joe Ray Halsey

first off the players have to know how to play, a coach must do his best to fix mechanics and such as best he can. IMO a good coach is the one that can get his kids to respond in a game, how to approach them after an error or to know when to settle them down that type of thing. Motivation! A team will take on a coaches personality.

im another to say funneldrill is one of the best.

Coach English has won every where he has coached. He is a fair man. I dont like bunting with 2 strikes, but this man has to make a living winning games. I have grown to understand that....and it seems to work more than not. He is honest with players and tells them their role, if they are willing to hear what he is saying. That is a good coach.

I think there are some good coach's everywhere

Legends: Rombach-Duncanville (seems to always make play-offs)
Culbertson-Arl. Martin (favored in 7-5A, won dist. at Freshman-Varsity levels back-to-back years)

Ribera-CH, new from the Amarillo area. Excellent track record at the 4A level. S/B good for CH program.

Coach Milam did a pretty good job at McKinney North. I expect he'll do ok at McKinney Boyd.

Hey Joe who are some of Mckinney Boyds better players? I know they have Kinnard Mck Norths ex-player but besides him who else do they have??

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Bad Coaches:

Marcus
Grapevine
Marcus
Did I mention Marcus?

KellerDad,

I looked up these guys up (on their websites.)
FMM Coach - We all know what he did in his first few years, especially 2005.
GV Coach - Dist Champ or Co-Champ or Bi-District Champ or Area Finalist or Area Champ or Regional Finalist,'92,'93,'94,'95,'96,'97,'98,'99,'01,'02,'04.

So, why the "bad coach" labels? Just curious.

Cobra21 -- it appears thsat you're new here -- welcome! This topic is a gag more-or-less but it won't turn in a slanderous discussion. Obviously, there are varying opinions on what makes a coach "good" or "bad". A generic debate along that line might be more interesting than classifying area coaches.

Most of us have had the chance to praise our local favorites -- as important as that is to the guys that read this message board but, as a moderator, it may be time to shut this thing down.

Concerning HS coaches, there must be a saying like...."one person's prince is another's ___________________"?

OBN and stang,

Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully the Summit Jaguars will be in the mix in District 4-5A this spring. One of my seniors got offered by Cisco this weekend so we definitely have things moving in the right direction.

PD, Yes, brand new. Long time Viewer, fist time Poster. Was just curious as to what KD thought was bad about them...style, strategy, etc.

Was not really looking for specifics. Generalities are clearly the better course for this type of discussion.

Anyway, undstand if you need to end it.

FHSbaseball1,

Don't have a lot of names of players at Boyd. They should have some pretty freshmen and sophomores. Give them a couple of years.

Rank the attributes (in order of importance) of a good coach:

-qualifies for playoffs on regular basis
-develops young players on sub-varsity teams
-insists on discipline and appropriate behavior on and off the field
-supports booster club
-insists on integrity by following UIL rules and the proper use of program funds
-provides honest evaluation of players
-ignores HS politics by demostrating consistency in treatment of players and parents
-encourages off-season development by supporting top summer-league competition
-develops pitching despite limited innings during district season
-establishes guidelines for college contacts and recommendations
-promotes players for post-season recognition, when appropriate
-supports proper off-season conditioning program, including baseball-focused weight-lifting and running programs
-shows willingness to make tough line-up decisions
-teaches baseball mechanics
-polices use of suppliments
-communicates effectively
-wins

What else?

...plays your son every inning.

Still doesn't surprise me this thread has lasted so long.

Oops, I forgot a few important points FO,

-my kid plays SS, bats 4th, and chooses the team shoes!

Oh, and he has a green light on the bases.

Well, the thread doesn't have much life, KG -- it's on life support.

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Well, the thread doesn't have much life, KG -- it's on life support.

Ah hell, just throw something out there on the Marcus coach and I'm sure KellerDad will give it a jolt to the heart.

....well, I guess we could start on summer team coaches, now.....

...well, what about the coaches that pick/play the child based on the mom's appearance?

...kids like that usually start as freshmen, despite their dads!

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...kids like that usually start as freshmen!

...and bats cleanup and plays Short Stop.

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Originally posted by FormerObserver:
....well, I guess we could start on summer team coaches, now.....

That would be interesting, although it happens everyday just not in a particular thread.

This thread gets my vote as the worst of all time.

Hey KellerDad, do you think the Marcus coach is a good coach.

All I'm going to say about that is if anybody wants my opinion on why I dislike the Marcus coach is to do a search on this website. It's been said before, no reason to rehash it.

Grapevine coach, I have a different reason, and it has nothing to do with wins or losses, or how many district championships he's won

What are your reasons for the Grapevine coach, Keller Dad?

Arlington Heights - Coach Elliott
Round Rock - Coach Langerhans (ret.)
C.C. Calallen
C.C. Moody
Former Eastern Hills great - Matlock
Elkins Coach
Duncanville - Rombauch

One vote here for one of the best threads!

KENNY G. for coach of the year!
(now you can close the thread, PD..... )

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Originally posted by Melynda:
KENNY G. for coach of the year!
(now you can close the thread, PD..... )

Sweet..............

Although I sense a little sarcasm.

no, that would have been "Come-back" Coach of the Year! plus, we both LOVE the Marcus coach

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Originally posted by Melynda:
no, that would have been "Come-back" Coach of the Year! plus, we both LOVE the Marcus coach

Well, although I don't know him personally, I somewhat dig his style.

I appreciate when a little discipline is brought back into baseball.

And all I know, is in the past couple of years, the times I watched Marcus play there was extreme discipline.

I kno it has been said on this post but Jim Gatewood former University of Alabama asst. Coach now head coach at Mckinney North is really a GREAT coach. The whole team loves him and he is pure genious at coaching! Looking forward to a great next 2 years under his wing.

But can he handle HS parents? -- we present unique challenges for baseball guys.