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I don't want to abuse this thread too much because I feel as though advertising myself here is inappropriate and not what the HSBBWeb is about. But I just wrote another blog post and I think it does a very good job provided a different viewpoint and comparison to the post I wrote a few days ago. Kind of describes the roller coaster of the TJ recovery process. Hope you decide to take a look and enjoy. Link below:
hokieone...The mirror effect, compliments of a Macbook.

Although right now I throw better with my right hand than my left, so you never know!

Well maybe you do, my sister (who plays softball), tells me I throw like a little girl with my right hand. So maybe the whole ambidextrous thing is a pipe dream for me in reality
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good luck with your recovery. The beginning goes slow but once you start tossing the ball the time will go faster as you meet each goal. My son had the surgery a year ago and is feeling very good. He is cleared to throw in games now..but since there isnt much going on right now his coach wants him to wait till they get back to school in the fall. He will be a red shirt freshman so he sat his first year and He cant wait to get back out there in a real game but for now its lots of long toss and bull pens and he spends lots of time in the weight room and running...its been a long road and hopefully it will all pay off.
Very cool blog. Do the baseball community a favor and follow through blogging the the complete recovery process plus some. Not only will it be educational, inspirational, and historical for both you and the readers but you may have the opportunity to reap some publishing rewards if the storyline is complete. Success in life is all about taking negative situations and building them into positive opportunities. From the outside looking in I see some potential here.
rz1- Thank you for the support and kind words. I plan on doing everything you mentioned. As I've stated before, the process of the recovery can be very grueling and frustrating, and I have gotten a lot of advice and help from those in the baseball community who have been through it before. The baseball world is an unbelievably small community of networking and I have gained so much knowledge and valuable experience through it that I feel it would be an injustice not to share my experiences in a way that could help others like I have been helped. In terms of the publishing rewards that you mentioned obviously that would be an appealing thing for the future but as of right now I am just focusing on recovering, getting back on the mound and sharing everything I've been going through with others in order to try to help them through the same situation and make it a little easier.

BTW, I have received nearly a third of all the hits on the blog off of referrals from the HSBBWeb, nearly double the amount of hits that any other site has provided me with. Once again, the baseball community is an incredible world and this website, in my mind, is one of the most prominent for what it is here for. I hope that all of you that decide to click the link and read up a bit on my experience can learn something from it.

I also do appreciate insight from other people here as well. I know junior5, who has been commenting here, had labrum surgery a few weeks before me and we have been in contact about our operations and ensuing physical therapy. If there is anyone else that has had some sort of issue and wishes to share their experiences here or on my blog, I highly encourage you to do so. It is a very satisfying feeling knowing that your words are helping others, and it helps you comfort yourself at the same time. If I am frustrated, I go back to the posts I wrote in the first few days after surgery and compare the state of my arm then to now, and it is pleasing to read along and remember the feeling of improvement. In my mind, it is a win-win situation.
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I just read your latest post on your blog and everytime I read it I feel a sense of relief. Over my 6 weeks post-surgery I have realized my greatest fear is not being able to play the game of baseball again. The only way I can describe the feeling of not being able to play is by saying it's like you aren't living, or nothing has a purpose. I have reached the point where everytime I go to therapy I feel more miserable and hurt than I do relief. My arm is exactly where I would've put it in a perfect world 6 weeks post surgery, but that just doesn't seem good enough. I want to be able to throw! It's not physical pain anymore... it's mental pain. I assume what is going to make both of our scenarios worth it at the end is that extra drive this is giving us, that not many others as young as us get to deal with. Keep working towards that goal. I know somewhat of how you're feeling.
junior5- I find a lot of comfort in watching Major Leaguers who have had the surgery and been successful. With the amount of players falling to shoulder and elbow injuries, it's as if you can pretty easily find one guy at any position in the game that has gone through it. I am losing valuable collegiate eligibility and time. But those guys, their livelihood is at stake when they get hurt. The importance of the game is more to them as a whole than it is to me, because while I have the intense passion that you obviously share (and I assume they do as well), they also rely on the game as a full-time job for them and potentially their families as well. I can only imagine the mental roller coaster they go through during the recovery period, and to watch them in the spotlight and succeeding in their respective tasks makes them heros in my mind because I know what they've went through and how good it must feel to succeed in the end.

My Tommy John and your SLAP tear, quite simply, s-u-c-k. But there's a purpose and a reason for everything. And I really truly do believe that the experience can make us better people in the end, if we strive to push through it all.

Hey, things could be worse!
Junior and JH,

I can only imagine the numerous and myriad of motivational emails and "hang in there" pat on the backs you both have received over the past few months. All from those people in your life that care deeply for you both. I know that you guys also know that you have a 2nd family here on HSBBW that are pulling for you guys very much for a speedy recovery and a comeback that defies all logic.

One thing that you young men are doing is being in touch with the mental and emotional aspect of these injuries, and how to fight through it remaining positive and upbeat. While you can only "see" it in your mind real or imagined based off the ones who have gone through this before you, the Men you will become is unimaginable. There's that saying "that which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger". Well, while that may sound cheesy at times, in this case for you both - it's true. It may possibly not be that comeback for baseball as you both would want and dream of. But the fight and determination that you are learning now will prepare you for this thing called life that most, no - a majority, of young men your age couldn't dream of. The things you will face going forward will pale in comparison to these injuries, the recovery, and not playing the one thing I know you both love.

My son is the the same age as both you (21). He should be a Senior this year. Key word being "should". For the most part he has gone through what you both are now going through and that is, he sat out all last year because of grades. Not the same as your injuries and I by no means am saying they are anywhere close to being related. But the mental anguish and emotional rollercoaster he went through was quite tough. Hearing you both talk about missing the game like you do now makes me realize even more what he went through that he never was able to communicate to me. So thank you both for being real and transparent on here for some of us to gain more knowledge.

I see a determination and resolve in both of you and quite honestly see you guys back on the field. Not a doubt in my mind.

YGD
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I am losing valuable collegiate eligibility and time. But those guys, their livelihood is at stake when they get hurt. The importance of the game is more to them as a whole than it is to me, because while I have the intense passion that you obviously share (and I assume they do as well), they also rely on the game as a full-time job for them and potentially their families as well. I can only imagine the mental roller coaster they go through during the recovery period, and to watch them in the spotlight and succeeding in their respective tasks makes them heros in my mind because I know what they've went through and how good it must feel to succeed in the end.


Good post and good perspective. However, most ML players that get seriously hurt continue to collect a salary. Those million dollar guys get contract $$$ regardless if they play or not. The organization is going to do whatever it takes to get them back on the field as quickly as possible where as in milb they drag it out.

The injured milb who hasn't made it as yet, may just be a later, older draft pick who knows the clock is running out. With a small signing bonus that is probably gone, it can be a bleak time for them mentally. Rehab after surgery during season equates to long days with nothing much to do afterwards.

At this point in time you have your team to associate with as well as class to take up the slack. As silly as this may sound, you are lucky in that regard, as the life of a milb rehabber is not fun. Not fun at all.

I believe there is a purpose, for many, injury fuels the fire, gives you a sense of proving them wrong, defying odds, a goal. Either way, it does s uck.

Your blog has provided great inspiration as well as a huge reality check, perhaps if anything to all those that think that their sons or themselves (as a player) are indestructable. Or perhaps look at TJS too lightly as "it can be fixed". You will be surprised at those that undergo TJS find themselves with other issues (shoulder) later on. Josh Johnson comes to mind.

This is an important read for many, I am sure that you have gone over a million times, "what did I do wrong". It's not always about what you did wrong, sometimes it just happens, so therefore when calculating one's risk that should be a consideration.

JMO.

The bottom line is that stuff happens, to lefties, righties, hard tossers, soft tossers. Where this setback finds one in their journey does have very much to do with their future as a player.
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i'll throw my 2cents in here. my son was drafted,then released because he needed tj surgery. the whole thing took a week. he had surgery a few weeks later by Dr. Andrews.he was fortunate enough to resign the next yr as a FA with the same team.

The big thing wasn't so much the surgery, but for the first time in his baseball life. he had no team,no team to rehab with. the group that always rallied around those in need.

so the physical part of the rehab is nothing compared to what twists and turns the mind can take. as i'm sure you'll find out as the day's turn to months. waiting for the ok to toss the very ball that started the whole mess.
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I sincerely appreciate all of the responses both here and on the blog. The amount of daily views has been incredibly consistent since I launched the blog and has enormously surpassed any expectations I originally had. I am glad to see that people seem to be enjoying what I am posting and hope that it is able to reach a broader audience as I continue further into the rehabilitation process.

I'm sure I am speaking for junior5 and the many others who have been through or are going through the unfortunate events such as an injury like these when I say this: The outpouring support that people provide is more comforting and helpful than I believe most realize. Injuries that take you away from a game that you love and are so passionate about are often times very difficult to cope with. Knowing that there is a support group behind you is something that is very meaningful and can be a pick-me-up in times that seem to be less fortunate. I can say firsthand that the people on this website have been extraordinary for me personally. I've received more well-wishes from people here than I could have ever imagined I would have received, and I can't thank everyone enough for showing that they care enough to take time out of their day to think of me. I remember a long thread a while back about the opinion of a "cyber-friend" and if one can exist. Well, friends care for each other during rough times and I've had plenty of support from people here in this online community, so I would say that a "cyber-friend" is certainly a true existing, albeit intangible, item.


With all of that being said, I just updated the blog with a post that outlines a bit about the knowledge I've gained thus far in the process and how I feel that knowledge can be put to use in a positive manner for myself and for those around me. Please, pass it along to those you know if you find it helpful. I hope you enjoy!
Josh you write so well and it's a joy to read your blog. I know you're not writing to elicit sympathy but any parent can put their son in your shoes and know how tough this rehab process is going to be. You have so much courage to share your innermost feelings with all us hsbbwebbers. hang in there- we're all rooting for you.
Patience my good man, patience. It's somewhat like when people of faith hand their troubles off to God, but then try to grab them back when he takes too long.....


You had the world's finest surgeon, who has given you the plan to follow. Patience, don't drive yourself nuts. At the risk of offending some by mentioning faith again, we're also told in Scripture that none of us can add even a second to our lives by worrying....so, patience is the order of the day/week/month.


Hang in there!


H-1

p.s. We got the area around the storage building smoothed to a park-like condition and the outfield gate fixed-opens smooth as silk now... Smile but all the dents in our new metal storage building courtesy of your summer buddies are there to stay.
Thanks to all for reading along. As I've said before, I am not writing for sympathy, I am just writing truthfully. I don't doubt there are many out there who have had similar or worse feelings at some times during a recovery and I'd like for them to know that it is not that uncommon. Some of my blog posts are very optimistic and some aren't. It's all relative in the road to recovery.

H-1- Sounds excellent. Might I suggest a possible advertising gig...perhaps you could attract a company to put one of those "hit it here" signs on top of the shed. If someone hits it, a fan gets a free _______. Lord knows that thing takes a beating during batting practice and is more that fair game during the contests.
I'd just like to send a special thank you to each and every person here on this website that has taken a look at my blog or has been following along. I check the stats for the blog about once a day...just curious to see how many hits I've gotten and where they've come from. The numbers are usually consistent daily, and hike a little bit whenever I write a new post. However, I just looked at the "All-Time" statistics and my blog has gotten more than 1,000 referrals from the HSBBWeb alone. While I hope that the popularity and informativeness of the material continues to grow, I never would have thought that in a fairly short amount of time my writing would garner up so many views...and to think that more than a thousand of them just came from this one website.

Thanks once again to all for tuning in, I truly hope you are enjoying and that the insight is bringing on some knowledgable insight from a (hopefully) different perspective for all of you.
wbethea13- I wish. Sophomore year I came into a game in relief in a double switch situation. I pitched two innings and came back into the dugout to be met by a teammate informing me I was due to lead off the top half of the inning. I excitedly grabbed a helmet and borrowed his batting gloves. I picked up a bat and made my way over to the on-deck circle, loosening myself up for my first collegiate plate appearance. As I arrived in the on-deck circle, Coach turned to another one of my teammates and said "Matt, pinch hit for Josh." I ran up to him and pleaded, but didn't really hold any water. I defeatedly returned back to the bench, knowing that my hopes for a hitting debut were shot down and my day on the mound was over.

Matt stepped up to the plate and swung at the first pitch, hitting a high fly ball that the centerfielder trotted over to and caught. I sat watching and said nothing until the inning was over. Coach came back to the bench from the third base coaching box and I calmly turned to him and said "you know, I could have done that." He looked at me and rolled his eyes and said "go get your running in."

Roll Eyes
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TPM,

We had a conference series one weekend go Thurs-Fri-Sat due to some serious weather. I started the Thursday game and went 8 2/3 innings and 122 pitches. When I woke up on Friday I was sore, but not any more sore than I typically would be after a start. I threw on the following Monday in relief, going 3 innings and throwing 44 pitches. When I woke up the next day, I was so sore I almost couldn't get out of bed. My legs felt like jello and my shoulder was extremely stiff. I did some extra exercises at practice that day and the next day and it started feeling better. My next start was scheduled for Friday, against a team who was top ten in the country at the time. On the 12th pitch of the game, my arm popped.

Looking back, this is the best possible explanation that I can give for your particular question. Throwing in excess of 100 pitches and then coming back for a relief appearance on three days could have caused something. My sister was in attendance at the game with the relief appearance and took a bunch of pictures and I've compared them to some pictures of past games she's been to. My arm slot was noticeably lower in the relief appearance than it typically was in the past.

I don't wish to point fingers or get this thread started in an ethical coaching discussion (I'm aware of the three days rest implication, etc.). Could it have been Coach's fault? Yeah, maybe. But I could have taken some preventative measures also.

So in retrospect the situation that I outlined above is probably the most likely cause of the injury, if there was a particular instance to be pinpointed. But as I've mentioned in the past, sometimes s*** happens. I don't want to harp on the "what ifs", I've spent many depressing nights doing just that.
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JH,
Another inspiring chapter for all of us, but also each of us, in your recovery and blog. While I know you are not, I can almost feel you are writing to/for me and I doubt I am alone.
Just one thought from a caring poster who is lucky to know you as a friend.
I wonder/think(know) you can do both: focus on tomorrow and seeing yourself pitching. One might be wonderfully, and at times, mercilessly, captured within the other...in the journey remaining until you toe that rubber again.
Perhaps you won't need both. I hope so.
If not, there is little doubt you have the physical and mental strength to use "tomorrow" to keep your long term vision clear.
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infielddad- Thanks. I think the parallel of both perspectives is one of the difficult aspects of the recovery process. Nonetheless, I do feel as though any motivation is good motivation. I took a class last fall where the professor constantly spoke about "foreseeability"...the ability to have some sort of impact on your own future by accomplishing things in the present, and thus foreseeing your forthcoming activities. I found that the concept was very simple and invigorating and tried to apply it to my life. However, it became difficult to do so during the beginning of this entire rehab process. Everything was just moving so slowly and the end result seemed so far away. For whatever reason, my experience yesterday gave me the ability to quantify my desires for the first time since the surgery, and it was extremely exhilarating.

I certainly agree that it could be difficult to try to find a balance between "tomorrow" and "pitching" in the emotional motivation aspect. But, I guess that's why they say this whole thing is so hard.
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I think the parallel of both perspectives is one of the difficult aspects of the recovery process.


Perhaps being able to be present to, and manage both, is going to create/generate an even stronger and mentally powerful JH, when you stand and toe that rubber.
Josh, I cannot fathom your challenges, both mental and physical. Experience and your blog helps me feel for some of what you want, some of what you hope, some of what you feel day by day, perhaps minute by minute.
I can literally, through your blog/words/emotions feel parts of what you feel.
By being present everyday to the possibility of today, and your future, I truly believe you will be more empowered each and every day.
JH, I know you will succeed. Taking advantage of every day until your success is defined on that rubber might well make those minutes of achievement, and every minute after it, more exhilarating than you can ever envision right now.

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