Hi, I'm a sophomore in high school and i was wondering if i transferd to another school for my junior and senior year, would that hurt my chances of getting a good look for college or pro baseball. Thanks
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Why are you transferring? That is the key
oriole21
The level of impact it will have on your chances for a future in baseball will be porportional to your level of talent.
If you're a stud the colleges will follow you wherever you go. If you're a middle of the roader, make sure you're transferring to a school where you have a good chance of playing and you aren't going to sit for the next two years because you have to beat out their stud player.
JMO
The level of impact it will have on your chances for a future in baseball will be porportional to your level of talent.
If you're a stud the colleges will follow you wherever you go. If you're a middle of the roader, make sure you're transferring to a school where you have a good chance of playing and you aren't going to sit for the next two years because you have to beat out their stud player.
JMO
TR
See the AD in both leagues, get their permission to comply with league rules and so you don't have to sit out a year...then justify the move with the agreement of both coaches from both leagues and AD's from both teams, then wait to see if the League Boards will approve your move.
Went through it twice. Both justified.
Didn't hurt the kid but it did piss off some parents who wanted their pound of flesh...didn't want to lose the talent.
See the AD in both leagues, get their permission to comply with league rules and so you don't have to sit out a year...then justify the move with the agreement of both coaches from both leagues and AD's from both teams, then wait to see if the League Boards will approve your move.
Went through it twice. Both justified.
Didn't hurt the kid but it did piss off some parents who wanted their pound of flesh...didn't want to lose the talent.
thank you for the advice, talk to you guys later on
RR
I never had to face the problem like you did--my son was comfortable where he was and if he was so was I--what ever went down it was my son not me--- perhaps that is why I can be happy with my "lot" in life
I never had to face the problem like you did--my son was comfortable where he was and if he was so was I--what ever went down it was my son not me--- perhaps that is why I can be happy with my "lot" in life
TRhit
I won't go into the details but not every kid gets to be "comfortable" in his situation.
We adults would call it a hostile work environment, and probably sue. But in schools you move your kid to a better situation if you can.
I won't go into the details but not every kid gets to be "comfortable" in his situation.
We adults would call it a hostile work environment, and probably sue. But in schools you move your kid to a better situation if you can.
In my area, a red flag goes up when a "stud" transfers one too many times, regardless of justifications.
TPM
Let's just say we did the right thing for our son and would do it again if need be...as would any "good" parent.
Let's just say we did the right thing for our son and would do it again if need be...as would any "good" parent.
quote:Originally posted by Ramrod:
TPM
Let's just say we did the right thing for our son and would do it again if need be...as would any "good" parent.
I didn't mention anything about transfering to different schools that would be perceived as bad parenting.
It could in a small way....let me explain. High school transfers,especially multiple ones may indicate over aggressive, meddling, high maintenance parents. I'm not saying that is good or bad but could indicate their involvement. As some have indicated on this site, those parents could have an impact on a player’s ability to sign at a college or could temper a coach’s opinion of that player negatively effecting his playing time or opportunity while in college. This in turn could impact his ability to be seen by scouts or could project him as less talented than he actually is come draft day. On the other hand a transfer could provide a better opportunity for a player to display his talent. 
You make the call.
Fungo
You make the call.
Fungo
Fungo,
Correct, however, I was just making a statement regarding what I see that sometimes happens around here. I did not want RR to think I was impicating that he was not a good parent, thus getting into a whole new discussion.
Correct, however, I was just making a statement regarding what I see that sometimes happens around here. I did not want RR to think I was impicating that he was not a good parent, thus getting into a whole new discussion.
TPM
RR may have meant that "barb" for me as I did some research on him and his high school moves and called him out on it
Incidently up this way if you leave the HS youa re in you go to a private school not another public HS as there is but one school in each town(district)
Orioles
I ask again --what is the reason for the transfer?
RR may have meant that "barb" for me as I did some research on him and his high school moves and called him out on it
Incidently up this way if you leave the HS youa re in you go to a private school not another public HS as there is but one school in each town(district)
Orioles
I ask again --what is the reason for the transfer?
TR,
As you know, I have sent you several PMs asking you politely to stop making public comments about this specific parent/player situation (which you referred to as RR). You have told me repeatedly that you will say whatever you darn well please. As you mentioned, you have "called out" this parent on this topic numerous times, and I have deleted several of the inappropriate posts that you made on the topic.
I do not know the reasons that this parent made their decisions, but I do know that as a parent, they have a right to make decisions about their child. As a baseball parent myself, I would be embarrassed and upset if someone learned of a decision I had made concerning my son Joe, right or wrong, and then followed me around a public forum for months, continuing to make negative comments about it. For some reason, those comments about our kids, or about decisions we made with or for our kids, seem to hurt the most. That is one reason that controlling those types of personal comments is one of my top rules for the site.
It has not been my intention to embarrass or disrespect you, which is why I have asked you this privately several times. But since you have responded each time by saying you will not honor my request, I need to address this publicly. Please follow the rules.
Julie
As you know, I have sent you several PMs asking you politely to stop making public comments about this specific parent/player situation (which you referred to as RR). You have told me repeatedly that you will say whatever you darn well please. As you mentioned, you have "called out" this parent on this topic numerous times, and I have deleted several of the inappropriate posts that you made on the topic.
I do not know the reasons that this parent made their decisions, but I do know that as a parent, they have a right to make decisions about their child. As a baseball parent myself, I would be embarrassed and upset if someone learned of a decision I had made concerning my son Joe, right or wrong, and then followed me around a public forum for months, continuing to make negative comments about it. For some reason, those comments about our kids, or about decisions we made with or for our kids, seem to hurt the most. That is one reason that controlling those types of personal comments is one of my top rules for the site.
It has not been my intention to embarrass or disrespect you, which is why I have asked you this privately several times. But since you have responded each time by saying you will not honor my request, I need to address this publicly. Please follow the rules.
Julie
MN MOM
you have a PM
you have a PM
Here in the good ol' state of Kentucky transfer rules are very confusing. There have been a few lawsuits because of those rules in the past couple of years. The latest involving a kid from New Orleans who plays football. The kid is staying with an aunt and uncle and is currently living in one school's district, but his cousin's go to a private school. This private school does require a tuition. I'm not sure who paid for the tuition, but the KHSAA will not allow him to play any sport unless he goes to the public school within the district he lives in. It's a sad situation for his family and the kid.
We have thought about transferring our son for academic reasons. The school he goes to know has been in some crisis for 2 years. He doesn't want to leave because of friends and we have respected that. And as long as he does his job with the grades and the school doesn't pull anything stupid the way they did with a kid a couple of years back, he'll stay.
Transferring can cause some hurt feelings from friends to parents. So, it's always wise to make sure that it is his/her best option.
We have thought about transferring our son for academic reasons. The school he goes to know has been in some crisis for 2 years. He doesn't want to leave because of friends and we have respected that. And as long as he does his job with the grades and the school doesn't pull anything stupid the way they did with a kid a couple of years back, he'll stay.
Transferring can cause some hurt feelings from friends to parents. So, it's always wise to make sure that it is his/her best option.
Mn-Mom
Thanks for being fair and evenhanded in managing this website.
TPM
I have read your post and it is obvious that you love your son very much That should help you understand why a parent would transfer their child to a school that would be better for him. and away from a "destructive environment".
However after a year at the school we thought would be better for him, both academically and athletically we found out that the place was riff with drug use. We didn't want him in that environment (lots of pot parties) and we decided to bring him back to our home where we could monitor his progress better.
At that point baseball was not our primary concern for his future but getting him through the "cesspools" that schools have become.
As it has worked out for us he is a very fine young man and has never used drugs and now has a bright future. Our main purpose is for his development is his "character"...and yes he does play baseball. We view that as something he likes to do not something he must do.
We are his parents not his agent, nor his publicist, nor his fan club. We make our decisions for our son based upon what we think is best for him...not because of how it is going to be viewed by some scout, college coach, or other party that just wants to use him for their own purposes.
Thanks for being fair and evenhanded in managing this website.
TPM
I have read your post and it is obvious that you love your son very much That should help you understand why a parent would transfer their child to a school that would be better for him. and away from a "destructive environment".
However after a year at the school we thought would be better for him, both academically and athletically we found out that the place was riff with drug use. We didn't want him in that environment (lots of pot parties) and we decided to bring him back to our home where we could monitor his progress better.
At that point baseball was not our primary concern for his future but getting him through the "cesspools" that schools have become.
As it has worked out for us he is a very fine young man and has never used drugs and now has a bright future. Our main purpose is for his development is his "character"...and yes he does play baseball. We view that as something he likes to do not something he must do.
We are his parents not his agent, nor his publicist, nor his fan club. We make our decisions for our son based upon what we think is best for him...not because of how it is going to be viewed by some scout, college coach, or other party that just wants to use him for their own purposes.
RR,
Why you transfered your son is your own business. The poster did not state reasons for why he wanted to transfer.
Whether it is for academic reasons, bad element, or just to play more baseball, more exposure, it's important to state reasons why so we could give the poster an honest answer.
However, players and parents should be aware that sometimes it just raises a red flag.
You are reading too much into my post.
Why you transfered your son is your own business. The poster did not state reasons for why he wanted to transfer.
Whether it is for academic reasons, bad element, or just to play more baseball, more exposure, it's important to state reasons why so we could give the poster an honest answer.
However, players and parents should be aware that sometimes it just raises a red flag.
You are reading too much into my post.
I agree 100% about raising that RED FLAG. But not only about the athlete, but also about the program he is leaving-works both ways 
Ramrod -
From here it sounds like you have your priorities straight. Glad the new environment is working out for you and your son both athletically and environmentally!
From here it sounds like you have your priorities straight. Glad the new environment is working out for you and your son both athletically and environmentally!
Ramrod,
I agree with URKMB on this one....congrats on having your priorities straight (IMO). Only the individual family knows what is best for them in each circumstance, and they should act in their child's best interest to assure the most favorable outcome.
I agree with URKMB on this one....congrats on having your priorities straight (IMO). Only the individual family knows what is best for them in each circumstance, and they should act in their child's best interest to assure the most favorable outcome.
Seems to me that Baseball should be one of the last considerations when it comes to if a child should switch high schools. Abusive environments, Drugs, poor academics, etc. are all good reasons in my mind to switch schools - and baseball is only a secondary consideration.
In Pennsylvania, you need signatures from officials at both schools citing specific reasons for the tranfer. We just went through this for our son, who transferred for his Junior and Senior year. We are in the middle of his Senior year, so it's hard to assess whether this has "hurt" him or "helped" him from a recruiting perspective. Ask us a year from now <grin>.
Anyway, there are definitely positives and negatives. For us, the positives have clearly outweighed the negatives. But, there are definitely aspects of the old school that we miss. Our decision was not purely a baseball decision, although it was a part of it and I feel the baseball aspect has turned out much better than at the old school.
For what it's worth, here are some things to think about looking back, in no particular order...
1. As much as it depends on you, leave the original school on as best terms as you can. Starting a new chapter is always exciting, but completely burning bridges is usually not a good idea.
2. Talk to the new school's AD... how do they see the baseball program compared to other sports programs... what are THEIR goals for the baseball program. The AD seems to have more influence on money and priorities than the coaching staff. In our case, the AD was a former assistant BB coach <wink>.
3. What are the academics like at the new school? A step up? A step down? Taking a step down may not set off alarm bells for the college baseball coaches, but I'd bet the college Admissions office would wonder.
4. Starting over at a new school is not easy! There are established circles that are often hard to break into, new social "norms", etc. The social aspect at the new school has been much more challenging (and also rewarding) than we expected.
5. What sort of league does the team play in? The competition level should be good. We transferred from a large "AAA" school to a "A" school, but the new school actually plays "up" against a number of AAA schools. The league is not one of the premier leagues, but the general area is more "baseball friendly" than where we were.
6. Make SURE that the old school courses fit the new school requirements properly. In our case, everything fit very well. Another school we considered had completely different math and science sequences than our old school. This would have caused great disruption. As it stands, even at our new school, we had to make a few adjustments. For example, the new school did not offer the same language that my son started. So, to get 3 years in (for college), he took a language course over the summer.
7. If the new school is not near your "home" and your son will need to board at the school or with another family, consider the distance, time and effort needed for visiting and going to games. We live 2 hours away from our son and it has been hard. On the other hand, he will probably be one of the most prepared college freshmen ever!
Just a few initial thoughts that come to mind. I better stop before I write a book <grin>
Anyway, there are definitely positives and negatives. For us, the positives have clearly outweighed the negatives. But, there are definitely aspects of the old school that we miss. Our decision was not purely a baseball decision, although it was a part of it and I feel the baseball aspect has turned out much better than at the old school.
For what it's worth, here are some things to think about looking back, in no particular order...
1. As much as it depends on you, leave the original school on as best terms as you can. Starting a new chapter is always exciting, but completely burning bridges is usually not a good idea.
2. Talk to the new school's AD... how do they see the baseball program compared to other sports programs... what are THEIR goals for the baseball program. The AD seems to have more influence on money and priorities than the coaching staff. In our case, the AD was a former assistant BB coach <wink>.
3. What are the academics like at the new school? A step up? A step down? Taking a step down may not set off alarm bells for the college baseball coaches, but I'd bet the college Admissions office would wonder.
4. Starting over at a new school is not easy! There are established circles that are often hard to break into, new social "norms", etc. The social aspect at the new school has been much more challenging (and also rewarding) than we expected.
5. What sort of league does the team play in? The competition level should be good. We transferred from a large "AAA" school to a "A" school, but the new school actually plays "up" against a number of AAA schools. The league is not one of the premier leagues, but the general area is more "baseball friendly" than where we were.
6. Make SURE that the old school courses fit the new school requirements properly. In our case, everything fit very well. Another school we considered had completely different math and science sequences than our old school. This would have caused great disruption. As it stands, even at our new school, we had to make a few adjustments. For example, the new school did not offer the same language that my son started. So, to get 3 years in (for college), he took a language course over the summer.
7. If the new school is not near your "home" and your son will need to board at the school or with another family, consider the distance, time and effort needed for visiting and going to games. We live 2 hours away from our son and it has been hard. On the other hand, he will probably be one of the most prepared college freshmen ever!
Just a few initial thoughts that come to mind. I better stop before I write a book <grin>
Oriole21 -
I just went through this with my son. He transferred for his senior year for reasons not related to sports. If you are a talented, there will be people who are not happy that you left and yes, it can impact your recruiting opportunities. College coaches and scouts may contact your former coaches and ask about you. You never know what they may say, especially if they are mad about your leaving. And then again, you may have played for some great coaches who will wish you well and support you. But just know that you are taking a risk.
In the end, it is a family decision and none of anyone else's business. It's a parents job to do what is best for their son. Sometimes doing the right thing isn't always easy.
Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more.
I just went through this with my son. He transferred for his senior year for reasons not related to sports. If you are a talented, there will be people who are not happy that you left and yes, it can impact your recruiting opportunities. College coaches and scouts may contact your former coaches and ask about you. You never know what they may say, especially if they are mad about your leaving. And then again, you may have played for some great coaches who will wish you well and support you. But just know that you are taking a risk.
In the end, it is a family decision and none of anyone else's business. It's a parents job to do what is best for their son. Sometimes doing the right thing isn't always easy.
Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more.