Nothing wrong with that way of thinking, eh?
Playball2
You obviously think you know something because of face value.
You are wrong.
Send me a private message and I'll give you a way to confirm it.
Other mis-info? or is that it?
You obviously think you know something because of face value.
You are wrong.
Send me a private message and I'll give you a way to confirm it.
Other mis-info? or is that it?
I've gotten caught up in this debate plenty of times, and when it often affects your business, you have to walk the fine line of support for all involved. But now it's personal. My nine year old has shown interest in playing beyond June 20th in our LL environment. Our option was lessons prior to the season, a couple of weeks of summer camp, and Fall Ball. Businesswise, we're attempting to develop a "second season" after the "almighty" All-Stars, as a preview to Fall Ball. (I never understood why nine and ten year olds had to finish their season by the 3rd week of June, so the path to Williamsport was clear for the 12 year old event). Balance in one's preference (like fundamentals themselves) are subjective to the particluar's of each family. I had to wait for child #6 to take interest before I could devote the single-mindedness that a Travel schedule can bear. BUT, I am looking forward to it. As a 25 year in house coach, knowing that the skill and interest and agenda levels can be just as varied in LL, as the challenge competitively we will face in "travel" next year, it will be fun.
Several years ago, I heard the authors of a book called "Victory Beyond the Scoreboard" on the radio with Milt Rosen of WGN. The authors were from Washington state and I believe AAU Basketball Coaches. They brought to light the challenges of all areas of competitive arenas. From drama to cheerleading to travel athletics, they mentioned the advantages and pitfuls to each environment. Many of the "Websters" can, and have, with this thread, contribute the "realities" of both sides of travel versus "enhanced" in-house.
I just spoke with one of our instructors who played for the '93 Palatine Travelers and coach Matsie (now helping the 16U Schaumburg Seminoles). He started as an 11 year old (on the 12 year old team) and mentioned that not only was the experience fundamental focused, but the competitiveness wasn't just saved for the opposition, but from within, for playing time, or starts in key games, etc. The players came from several communities, and the benefactors were often the varsity coach. (This instuctor helped Schaumburg to a state title!... and now is a triple A pitcher recently signed with the Nationals after six years with the Dodgers!).
Let's face it. Thirty years ago there were less distractions and likewise much less opportunities for the individuals to customize their goals to achieving the highest level of play! Six to seven hundred travel games are not necessary to make the varsity. Six or seven THOUSAND reps and "teaching moments", more likely, IMHO!
Bill Downing
Fox Valley Sports Academy
Several years ago, I heard the authors of a book called "Victory Beyond the Scoreboard" on the radio with Milt Rosen of WGN. The authors were from Washington state and I believe AAU Basketball Coaches. They brought to light the challenges of all areas of competitive arenas. From drama to cheerleading to travel athletics, they mentioned the advantages and pitfuls to each environment. Many of the "Websters" can, and have, with this thread, contribute the "realities" of both sides of travel versus "enhanced" in-house.
I just spoke with one of our instructors who played for the '93 Palatine Travelers and coach Matsie (now helping the 16U Schaumburg Seminoles). He started as an 11 year old (on the 12 year old team) and mentioned that not only was the experience fundamental focused, but the competitiveness wasn't just saved for the opposition, but from within, for playing time, or starts in key games, etc. The players came from several communities, and the benefactors were often the varsity coach. (This instuctor helped Schaumburg to a state title!... and now is a triple A pitcher recently signed with the Nationals after six years with the Dodgers!).
Let's face it. Thirty years ago there were less distractions and likewise much less opportunities for the individuals to customize their goals to achieving the highest level of play! Six to seven hundred travel games are not necessary to make the varsity. Six or seven THOUSAND reps and "teaching moments", more likely, IMHO!
Bill Downing
Fox Valley Sports Academy
I haven't read all the post on this forum, but I'm a senior in highschool now and have played travel ball since I was 12 years old. I personally think that it has paid off for me in the long run. It all depends on the program that you get into though. I had one of the best travel coaches around if not the best, in terms of teaching and helping players to learn the game. At 12 yrs old I knew how to do things that a lot of the Freshman in high school are first learning how to do. Travel ball gave me a great foundation of knowledge for the game and put me ahead of the rest of the pack. For all the parents you need to make sure its something your kid wants to do. If baseball is not something that they love to do then playing upwards of 60 games in a 3 month span will not work out. IF your kid loves the game then travel ball will prepare them for highschool. 12 out of 15 kids from my travel team alone will play college baseball at some level. 7 of us will be playing division 1 baseball. There's the proof right there, travel ball pays off. I don't know of any little league or babe ruth league that pumps out those kind of results.
P&C you did lose interest because you gave up BB. Your choice and it is not a slight to your character so don't get over heated.
The fact that you love BB, the fact that you gave it upis the evidence that you did not not have the mental toughness to keep playing especially if you say you love the game. Most players do give up baseball. Some sooner than others. If you want to call that burnout then do so but it is not. A few days off and a good rest and you should be raring to go. I have seen hundreds of kids who were great ball players just quit one day. Some totally out of BB and others drop out to play rec. There is nothing wrong with that.
I dropped out of football because I didn't have the desire anymore. No burnout I just didn't have the will to compete. I had a full ride to the University of Ten and just said no. I worked out with a few guys and they were pumped and I wasn't. 2 of my teammates went on tp play in the Rose Bowl but I lost touch with them. I was talked into playing in my 1st year at college under a guy named Rutigliano. I should never have done it and got hurt the 1st time in my life. I was finished mentally but not burned out. I had other interests. I turned down offers from Canadian pro scouts to tryout. I didn't play too much football I had other interests. I didn't have the mental toughness to play the sport at a high level anymore due to a loss of focus.
You cannot blame burnout, overuse as a reason for leaving a sport if you say you love playing the game.
I understand your post as I have seen this senario many many times.
The fact that you love BB, the fact that you gave it upis the evidence that you did not not have the mental toughness to keep playing especially if you say you love the game. Most players do give up baseball. Some sooner than others. If you want to call that burnout then do so but it is not. A few days off and a good rest and you should be raring to go. I have seen hundreds of kids who were great ball players just quit one day. Some totally out of BB and others drop out to play rec. There is nothing wrong with that.
I dropped out of football because I didn't have the desire anymore. No burnout I just didn't have the will to compete. I had a full ride to the University of Ten and just said no. I worked out with a few guys and they were pumped and I wasn't. 2 of my teammates went on tp play in the Rose Bowl but I lost touch with them. I was talked into playing in my 1st year at college under a guy named Rutigliano. I should never have done it and got hurt the 1st time in my life. I was finished mentally but not burned out. I had other interests. I turned down offers from Canadian pro scouts to tryout. I didn't play too much football I had other interests. I didn't have the mental toughness to play the sport at a high level anymore due to a loss of focus.
You cannot blame burnout, overuse as a reason for leaving a sport if you say you love playing the game.
I understand your post as I have seen this senario many many times.
Bobblehead,
I would characterize your response as out of line. I don't believe it's your business to tell other people what they are or aren't.
I would characterize your response as out of line. I don't believe it's your business to tell other people what they are or aren't.
In my humble opinion, and from my personal experience, a kid's experience playing a heavy schedule of baseball games hinges a lot on the father/parents. If a 12-year-old loves playing baseball, and really wants to play 120 games in a season, then the kid obviously has a passion to play and, because of his drive, will likely be good. But many times the kids don't want to play as badly as the parent wants him to play. When the young kid doesn't have a natural desire to play an excessive schedule, then it will likely become more of a job-like experience and the fun, by and large, will be lost. And, speaking from experience here, the kid will lose his zeal for playing until high school and perhaps place a strain on the parent/child relationship. Now that I'm older and fatter, I love my dad, but the travel years of baseball as a 12-year-old wasn't always that much fun for me. Especially on the car ride home.
quote:For what ever reason you lost interest and if you loved baseball you would have given up the other interests. [QUOTE]
with a response like that please read the post again.
I am not sure what you mean but my son gave up AAA Allstar, HS Varsity and district Allstar to concentrate on Varsity Basket ball Elite travell ball and a part time job to prepare for college. His HS is a Basket ball powerhouse and he was a starter for the last 2 years. They travelled all over the US and had an annual trip to Vegas and Bulls Head Ariz. His 1st love is baseball and if I had anything to say about it he would not have played basket ball that year.
He definitly had no burnout and is more passionate than ever to play ball. Because of the heavy work load he showed up on campus in top shape.
Trust me when I say you are either going to fold or rise to the highest level you are capable of reaching. The mental toughness and desire are all that keep you in the game.
Hmmm...you have no mental toughness if you no longer want to do something because it is all you have done for years at a young age.
Maybe it takes mental toughness to say: (Insert any of the following)"Dad, Coach, Mom, Freind, I just don't want to play travel this year.....I want to stay around home this summer."
Burnout is burnout by any other name. Bobblehead, your son, and my son and many others play for years and don't get it, but others do. I can't figure out why you refuse to acknowledge it.
Maybe it takes mental toughness to say: (Insert any of the following)"Dad, Coach, Mom, Freind, I just don't want to play travel this year.....I want to stay around home this summer."
Burnout is burnout by any other name. Bobblehead, your son, and my son and many others play for years and don't get it, but others do. I can't figure out why you refuse to acknowledge it.
bobblehead, I might be wrong here but did you say your son plays on a powerhouse basketball team, practices baseball 3-4 hours per day 3 days per week, and works a part-time job? My math might be a little off but does he have any time to study or sleep?
Sorry CPLZ and PB2 I have to give you an "F" for comprehension.
Had no intension in attacking the guys character. I thought I was clear about that.
Very few people have the talent, passion and mental toughness to make it in any sport.
Had no intension in attacking the guys character. I thought I was clear about that.
Very few people have the talent, passion and mental toughness to make it in any sport.
bobblehead, how would you know?
It's not often I've been had, but Bobblehead has been yanking our chains for a couple of days and I just now realized that he is messing with us. No one really thinks that way.
Gotta give you credit Bobblehead, you had me for a while there.
Gotta give you credit Bobblehead, you had me for a while there.
What does "make it" mean?
2bagger 3hrs X 3 days = 9 hrs of BB practice. 4 days a week at 5:30 AM he would go to the gyn for basketball practice and many times a 3:30 PM practice for shooting.
He had a 3.8 gpa and I never had to ask him if he had his home work done.
College coaches are tough on ball players. At his school the players have to work the ball field and often have little or no time to study. He currently works in the college cafe and he took it upon himself to get his Soc. Sec # and get the job.
Anyone who is in College and plays a sport can tell you the tough grind you have to endure. You had better have a lot of passion and mental toughness.
He had a 3.8 gpa and I never had to ask him if he had his home work done.
College coaches are tough on ball players. At his school the players have to work the ball field and often have little or no time to study. He currently works in the college cafe and he took it upon himself to get his Soc. Sec # and get the job.
Anyone who is in College and plays a sport can tell you the tough grind you have to endure. You had better have a lot of passion and mental toughness.
Bobble..what does "make it" mean?
FB make it means reach your goals that you set for yourself. There are several steps in the achieving of your goals.
I would never jerk your chain.
I would never jerk your chain.
Thanks bobblehead, I am a little slow but you did point out to me that it is a tough grind to go to college and play a sport at the same time especially when as you say you have little or no time to study. As I sadi I actually had to study in college. I also appreciate you pointing out to me that 3x3 is nine as I almost had to pull out my calculater.
Enjoy the reading, since it is learnt, how many travelballers at the age of 12U posses it?
Mental toughness is the ability to consistently sustain one’s ideal performance state during adversities in competition. Performing to one's potential requires good technique and mental skills. Ups and downs in performance are often directly traceable to psychological ups and downs. Players who create a special atmosphere within them perform consistently. Mental toughness is learnt, not inherited. The ultimate measure of mental toughness is consistency.
CHARACTERISTICS OF MENTAL TOUGHNESS
The mentally tough competitor is self-motivated and self directed. He/she does not need to be pushed from outside as he is controlled from within. The player is in total control of his emotions. He/she is positive and realistic about his/her goals and success. The individual is generally calm and relaxed under pressure situations. The person is also mentally alert, focussed, confident and responsible for his actions. He is ready for action, usually energetic and determined.
Fundamental areas of mental toughness are:
Self-Confidence
Self-Motivation
Negative Energy Control
Positive Energy Control
Attention Control
Visual/Imagery Control
Attitude Control
Self-Confidence: It is a way of feeling. One can develop self-confidence with practice. The key ingredient is belief in self. You develop self-confidence by elevation of self-image, learning to stay calm, goal setting, positive thinking, self discipline and reviewing performance.
Self-Motivation: It is a source of positive energy. It helps to endure pain, discomfort and self-sacrifice. To overcome low self-motivation, set meaningful long-term goals, commit the goals on a training book, keep a daily record, associate with self-motivated players, enjoy the activity.
Negative Energy Control: Controlling negative emotions like fear, anger, envy, frustration and temper. Performing with negative energy results in inconsistency. To overcome negative energy, increase awareness, psycho, regulation, physical exercise and stimulate competitive situations.
Positive Energy Control: It is the ability to become energized with joy, determination and team spirit. It helps players to maintain the required arousal level to achieve peak performance. To overcome low positive energy control, increase awareness, develop enthusiasm, start feeling good and ensure physical fitness.
Attention Control: It is the ability to tune what is important and what is not important (i. e., to disassociate from what is irrelevant). Improve calming and quieting skills, time awareness, get the positive energy flowing and concentration training.
Visual/Imagery Skills: It is process of creating pictures or images in mind (i. e., thinking in pictures) This is one of the most powerful techniques to develop mental toughness as it is the connecting link between the mind and body. To overcome low visual/imagery skills- practice visualization with all the senses, ensure internal calmness, use photographs and start rehearsing mentally in advance.
Attitude Control: It is a reflection of the player's habits of thoughts. The right attitude produces emotional control and right flow of energy. To overcome low attitude control, identify positive and negative attitudes. Positive affirmation reinforces positive attitude, keep records and have a vision or commitment.
PSYCHOLOGICAL CONCEPTS
Acquiring new modes of behavior by assimilating varied changes is a continuous process that occurs throughout the life. In sports the ultimate aim of achieving fine motor skills is to enhance one’s performance. Therefore, to bring in this desirable effect, certain principles are to be borne in mind.
Reinforcement – is any event or response which serves to increase the frequency of the behaviors that preceded its presentation. Positive or negative reinforcement helps or avoids repeating a desirable performance or stopping an undesirable performance. Delayed reinforcements are often less productive.
Motivation – is a process by which an individual is inspired to do something? Motivated condition is essential for effective learning. A need is to be created within the individual.
Feedback – is the knowledge of result which helps to check the performance and make the necessary modification after a self-evaluation.
Individual Differences – pertaining to physical, psychological and socio-cultural differences can affect the learning and performance.
Emotional Arousal – if in optimum level, is the most desirable for performance. Different games require different levels of arousal.
Insight – means sensing intuitively the inner nature of something. In a game situation, it may perceive the situations in a new way, and applying new tactics and strategy.
Information Processing – is collecting the right information that may be any idea, image, fact, knowledge etc. and putting these together for interpreting and responding to incoming stimuli.
Transfer of Training – indicates that an earlier habit influences the performance of later habit. Bilateral transfer occurs when one part of the body facilitates learning by another. Positive effect occurs when similarity in skills is established. Negative effect occurs if the skills have been mastered and if major changes are attempted.
Level of Aspiration – is the level to which one aspires, a standard set by a person by which success or failure can be personally gauged. In sports, choosing a realistic level as a strong motivator makes the learning effective.
Plateau – is a transition stage, which is only a temporary stagnation phase where the rate of improvement in learning is at the minimum. With appropriate corrective measures, this stage can be overcome. The duration of plateau stage varies from person to person.
Mental Practice – with physical activity results in early learning and aids in better performance by chalking out appropriate game strategies.
STAGES OF PSYCHOLOGICAL PREPARATION
Stage 1: Psychodiagnosis
When a training camp commences, after the initial rapport is established with the players, it is desirable to have the base level of the psychological parameters. This will help the coach to have a general view of the psychological status of each player. The psychodiagnosis includes psychological tests, which have to be designed keeping in mind the demands of the particular game, age and skill level.
Broadly, the psychological tests can include the area of psychomotor abilities, information processing, personality, motivation and socio-psychological factors. The coach can identify the dominant psychological state of player. The testing is to be conducted during selection trials or even when the training camps are in progress. Testing during selection helps the coach to have an idea of the kind of tasks the player would suit.
Stage 2: Psychological Recommendations
After the psychological assessment is done in the first stage, psycho-pedagogical recommendations are given. The recommendation is to be given to all the personnel involved with the team – coaches, teammates, players, family friends, doctor and other paramedical staff.
For example, a casual remark by a masseur that a player’s muscles are not relaxed or any such negative statement while working with the player can become a source of worry and hinder high level performance. Well meaning close associates of the player can also cause anxiety prior to the competition by their over-concern or over-indulgence.
In such instances, it is recommended to refrain from doing things that could cause deterioration in performance. The recommendation can be given for appropriate selection of the sport for young children, besides developing the required skills of the players during the period of training camps. For example, if the visual skills of a hockey player have to be developed, the psychologist along with the coach can formulate exercises for the same. The recommendation can be provided for the choice of game, for the coaches to decide the kind of training to be imparted.
Stage 3: Psychological Preparation
The psychological preparation of the coach is important because it is he who is looked upto in times of crises. He is the person who inspires the player to think about new and interesting task variations. A coach often succumbs to pressure from the society, and his or her self-worth is associated with the team's performance. Hence winning becomes an important issue.
However, it is vital that the coach doesn't lose his nerve under pressure or become dictatorial. Coaches should take adequate measures to remain a counselor, adviser and most importantly, a person who provides knowledge and wisdom to young players.
Psychological preparation of a team will include different exercises to improve upon those qualities that have been evaluated. The psychologist and the coach should be sensitive to observing the motivational levels of a player and the group dynamics of the team. This is especially important in team sports.
Psychological stress management has to be an integral part of the training. Stress can destroy a sports person's self-confidence and cause digression from tactical skills. It can cause burnout in a sportsperson at a crucial time in an important competition.
Psychological training should be individually directed for each trainee, and it should include relaxation training, stress management, positive thinking, regulation of self, training for improving concentration and psychological energy control. While practically doing the above training, it is important that the sportsperson develops a self-awareness of his initial level. While training is in progress, after each session, the trainee has to be encouraged to record the effects, observations and associated feelings. The training log will thus provide a feedback of the effectiveness of the training program, and it can even be modified if needed.
Stage 4: Psychological Control
Psychological control during competition will be achieved if the sportsperson has learned the management techniques during the long-term training. In competitions which are prolonged, self-control and regulation of arousal becomes important so that performance is not negatively affected.
Often during a critical period of the competition, even well-meaning suggestions offered by a coach elicits little change in the player’s behavior. This is due to the stress that the player is undergoing. However, if the athlete is able to regulate his activation, positive improvement can occur.
Therefore, a coach should be cognizant of the activation demand of the task, and the individual level of the sportsperson. Self-control and self-regulation gains significance because on the playfield, the player is competing alone or with his teammates only. It is in the best interests of the game that the coach or psychologist leaves the player alone without excessive interference.
Stage 5: Evaluation
Every competition provides feedback of strengths, weaknesses and the strategies used. Based on these, future strategies can be chalked out. The emotion which follows is often related to the outcome of the competition. Each player will interpret his unique contribution to the result of the competition differently.
For instance, a player from the winning team can feel depressed if he feels his role was not successfully executed. Likewise, a loss is not necessarily an unsuccessful effort. Therefore, during the process of evaluation, the coach should be extra cautious while interpreting the present and formulating future strategies. The experience and the background of a player is to be considered individually. After ensuring proper rest and relaxation, a coach can offer objective, constructive criticism in precise terms to each player irrespective of the win or loss of the game. This would provide direction for future competitions to follow.
Mental toughness is the ability to consistently sustain one’s ideal performance state during adversities in competition. Performing to one's potential requires good technique and mental skills. Ups and downs in performance are often directly traceable to psychological ups and downs. Players who create a special atmosphere within them perform consistently. Mental toughness is learnt, not inherited. The ultimate measure of mental toughness is consistency.
CHARACTERISTICS OF MENTAL TOUGHNESS
The mentally tough competitor is self-motivated and self directed. He/she does not need to be pushed from outside as he is controlled from within. The player is in total control of his emotions. He/she is positive and realistic about his/her goals and success. The individual is generally calm and relaxed under pressure situations. The person is also mentally alert, focussed, confident and responsible for his actions. He is ready for action, usually energetic and determined.
Fundamental areas of mental toughness are:
Self-Confidence
Self-Motivation
Negative Energy Control
Positive Energy Control
Attention Control
Visual/Imagery Control
Attitude Control
Self-Confidence: It is a way of feeling. One can develop self-confidence with practice. The key ingredient is belief in self. You develop self-confidence by elevation of self-image, learning to stay calm, goal setting, positive thinking, self discipline and reviewing performance.
Self-Motivation: It is a source of positive energy. It helps to endure pain, discomfort and self-sacrifice. To overcome low self-motivation, set meaningful long-term goals, commit the goals on a training book, keep a daily record, associate with self-motivated players, enjoy the activity.
Negative Energy Control: Controlling negative emotions like fear, anger, envy, frustration and temper. Performing with negative energy results in inconsistency. To overcome negative energy, increase awareness, psycho, regulation, physical exercise and stimulate competitive situations.
Positive Energy Control: It is the ability to become energized with joy, determination and team spirit. It helps players to maintain the required arousal level to achieve peak performance. To overcome low positive energy control, increase awareness, develop enthusiasm, start feeling good and ensure physical fitness.
Attention Control: It is the ability to tune what is important and what is not important (i. e., to disassociate from what is irrelevant). Improve calming and quieting skills, time awareness, get the positive energy flowing and concentration training.
Visual/Imagery Skills: It is process of creating pictures or images in mind (i. e., thinking in pictures) This is one of the most powerful techniques to develop mental toughness as it is the connecting link between the mind and body. To overcome low visual/imagery skills- practice visualization with all the senses, ensure internal calmness, use photographs and start rehearsing mentally in advance.
Attitude Control: It is a reflection of the player's habits of thoughts. The right attitude produces emotional control and right flow of energy. To overcome low attitude control, identify positive and negative attitudes. Positive affirmation reinforces positive attitude, keep records and have a vision or commitment.
PSYCHOLOGICAL CONCEPTS
Acquiring new modes of behavior by assimilating varied changes is a continuous process that occurs throughout the life. In sports the ultimate aim of achieving fine motor skills is to enhance one’s performance. Therefore, to bring in this desirable effect, certain principles are to be borne in mind.
Reinforcement – is any event or response which serves to increase the frequency of the behaviors that preceded its presentation. Positive or negative reinforcement helps or avoids repeating a desirable performance or stopping an undesirable performance. Delayed reinforcements are often less productive.
Motivation – is a process by which an individual is inspired to do something? Motivated condition is essential for effective learning. A need is to be created within the individual.
Feedback – is the knowledge of result which helps to check the performance and make the necessary modification after a self-evaluation.
Individual Differences – pertaining to physical, psychological and socio-cultural differences can affect the learning and performance.
Emotional Arousal – if in optimum level, is the most desirable for performance. Different games require different levels of arousal.
Insight – means sensing intuitively the inner nature of something. In a game situation, it may perceive the situations in a new way, and applying new tactics and strategy.
Information Processing – is collecting the right information that may be any idea, image, fact, knowledge etc. and putting these together for interpreting and responding to incoming stimuli.
Transfer of Training – indicates that an earlier habit influences the performance of later habit. Bilateral transfer occurs when one part of the body facilitates learning by another. Positive effect occurs when similarity in skills is established. Negative effect occurs if the skills have been mastered and if major changes are attempted.
Level of Aspiration – is the level to which one aspires, a standard set by a person by which success or failure can be personally gauged. In sports, choosing a realistic level as a strong motivator makes the learning effective.
Plateau – is a transition stage, which is only a temporary stagnation phase where the rate of improvement in learning is at the minimum. With appropriate corrective measures, this stage can be overcome. The duration of plateau stage varies from person to person.
Mental Practice – with physical activity results in early learning and aids in better performance by chalking out appropriate game strategies.
STAGES OF PSYCHOLOGICAL PREPARATION
Stage 1: Psychodiagnosis
When a training camp commences, after the initial rapport is established with the players, it is desirable to have the base level of the psychological parameters. This will help the coach to have a general view of the psychological status of each player. The psychodiagnosis includes psychological tests, which have to be designed keeping in mind the demands of the particular game, age and skill level.
Broadly, the psychological tests can include the area of psychomotor abilities, information processing, personality, motivation and socio-psychological factors. The coach can identify the dominant psychological state of player. The testing is to be conducted during selection trials or even when the training camps are in progress. Testing during selection helps the coach to have an idea of the kind of tasks the player would suit.
Stage 2: Psychological Recommendations
After the psychological assessment is done in the first stage, psycho-pedagogical recommendations are given. The recommendation is to be given to all the personnel involved with the team – coaches, teammates, players, family friends, doctor and other paramedical staff.
For example, a casual remark by a masseur that a player’s muscles are not relaxed or any such negative statement while working with the player can become a source of worry and hinder high level performance. Well meaning close associates of the player can also cause anxiety prior to the competition by their over-concern or over-indulgence.
In such instances, it is recommended to refrain from doing things that could cause deterioration in performance. The recommendation can be given for appropriate selection of the sport for young children, besides developing the required skills of the players during the period of training camps. For example, if the visual skills of a hockey player have to be developed, the psychologist along with the coach can formulate exercises for the same. The recommendation can be provided for the choice of game, for the coaches to decide the kind of training to be imparted.
Stage 3: Psychological Preparation
The psychological preparation of the coach is important because it is he who is looked upto in times of crises. He is the person who inspires the player to think about new and interesting task variations. A coach often succumbs to pressure from the society, and his or her self-worth is associated with the team's performance. Hence winning becomes an important issue.
However, it is vital that the coach doesn't lose his nerve under pressure or become dictatorial. Coaches should take adequate measures to remain a counselor, adviser and most importantly, a person who provides knowledge and wisdom to young players.
Psychological preparation of a team will include different exercises to improve upon those qualities that have been evaluated. The psychologist and the coach should be sensitive to observing the motivational levels of a player and the group dynamics of the team. This is especially important in team sports.
Psychological stress management has to be an integral part of the training. Stress can destroy a sports person's self-confidence and cause digression from tactical skills. It can cause burnout in a sportsperson at a crucial time in an important competition.
Psychological training should be individually directed for each trainee, and it should include relaxation training, stress management, positive thinking, regulation of self, training for improving concentration and psychological energy control. While practically doing the above training, it is important that the sportsperson develops a self-awareness of his initial level. While training is in progress, after each session, the trainee has to be encouraged to record the effects, observations and associated feelings. The training log will thus provide a feedback of the effectiveness of the training program, and it can even be modified if needed.
Stage 4: Psychological Control
Psychological control during competition will be achieved if the sportsperson has learned the management techniques during the long-term training. In competitions which are prolonged, self-control and regulation of arousal becomes important so that performance is not negatively affected.
Often during a critical period of the competition, even well-meaning suggestions offered by a coach elicits little change in the player’s behavior. This is due to the stress that the player is undergoing. However, if the athlete is able to regulate his activation, positive improvement can occur.
Therefore, a coach should be cognizant of the activation demand of the task, and the individual level of the sportsperson. Self-control and self-regulation gains significance because on the playfield, the player is competing alone or with his teammates only. It is in the best interests of the game that the coach or psychologist leaves the player alone without excessive interference.
Stage 5: Evaluation
Every competition provides feedback of strengths, weaknesses and the strategies used. Based on these, future strategies can be chalked out. The emotion which follows is often related to the outcome of the competition. Each player will interpret his unique contribution to the result of the competition differently.
For instance, a player from the winning team can feel depressed if he feels his role was not successfully executed. Likewise, a loss is not necessarily an unsuccessful effort. Therefore, during the process of evaluation, the coach should be extra cautious while interpreting the present and formulating future strategies. The experience and the background of a player is to be considered individually. After ensuring proper rest and relaxation, a coach can offer objective, constructive criticism in precise terms to each player irrespective of the win or loss of the game. This would provide direction for future competitions to follow.
I gotta to sey, dthre were times when i questiond son # ones comittmint to ball. He wus good but needs a kick in the a** to git it out.
One time, I sed you better git out there and git sum t werk in. It's Dec. 25 and it only 2 months untl trieouts and you nevr maek the teem if you donot show guts an pashun You wont git to the bigs if ya dont werk harder.
Will nayways, he got his butt out dere and swung the bat liek a mule kick an shudda been hittin cleanuop but the mmanagr sed hes grads wernt hi nuff so he cudn't pley ball. I new he dint hav the guts to paly pro ball wen he wudnt stey out derewhen it wuz thunderin and maid excuze theyt medla bats can git hit by ligtinin. I sed by the teime you are 13 you gotta show guts if you wanna maek it n pro ball and now he is a losr sittin in the mill al;l day.
He cudda maid it big man if he only werked mor atit
theze kids they got no guts
One time, I sed you better git out there and git sum t werk in. It's Dec. 25 and it only 2 months untl trieouts and you nevr maek the teem if you donot show guts an pashun You wont git to the bigs if ya dont werk harder.
Will nayways, he got his butt out dere and swung the bat liek a mule kick an shudda been hittin cleanuop but the mmanagr sed hes grads wernt hi nuff so he cudn't pley ball. I new he dint hav the guts to paly pro ball wen he wudnt stey out derewhen it wuz thunderin and maid excuze theyt medla bats can git hit by ligtinin. I sed by the teime you are 13 you gotta show guts if you wanna maek it n pro ball and now he is a losr sittin in the mill al;l day.
He cudda maid it big man if he only werked mor atit
theze kids they got no guts
PB2 that is a great comprehensive definition.
feel free to cut and paste
quote:Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
The fact that you love BB, the fact that you gave it upis the evidence that you did not not have the mental toughness to keep playing especially if you say you love the game. Most players do give up baseball.
You cannot blame burnout, overuse as a reason for leaving a sport if you say you love playing the game.
Bobblehead,
No comprehension problems here. You are clearly telling someone else here what they are and what they aren't, for that sir, I say you are out of line
quote:Originally posted by FastballDad:
I gotta to sey, dthre were times when i questiond son # ones comittmint to ball. He wus good but needs a kick in the a** to git it out.
One time, I sed you better git out there and git sum t werk in. It's Dec. 25 and it only 2 months untl trieouts and you nevr maek the teem if you donot show guts an pashun You wont git to the bigs if ya dont werk harder.
Will nayways, he got his butt out dere and swung the bat liek a mule kick an shudda been hittin cleanuop but the mmanagr sed hes grads wernt hi nuff so he cudn't pley ball. I new he dint hav the guts to paly pro ball wen he wudnt stey out derewhen it wuz thunderin and maid excuze theyt medla bats can git hit by ligtinin. I sed by the teime you are 13 you gotta show guts if you wanna maek it n pro ball and now he is a losr sittin in the mill al;l day.
He cudda maid it big man if he only werked mor atit
theze kids they got no guts
FBD,
You never cease to crack me up. That's a classic!
I was worried when I saw FB's post i thought I yanked his chain too hard.
I feel better now.
I feel better now.
And that's all I got to say about that.
For the parent deciding on TB.
You must commit several hours (if not dozens) per week for 12-16 weeks.
Your son must be committed to even more time.
He must literally love the game and his happiness (imo) is paramount.
Once you decide, try to stay ahead of the process by reviewing your opportunities at lease 6-9 months in advance.
It's all about the coaching, everything else is secondary. Good coaches have there ducks in a row, they lay out the year in advance and teams are generally decided on in September.
Good Luck out there.
You must commit several hours (if not dozens) per week for 12-16 weeks.
Your son must be committed to even more time.
He must literally love the game and his happiness (imo) is paramount.
Once you decide, try to stay ahead of the process by reviewing your opportunities at lease 6-9 months in advance.
It's all about the coaching, everything else is secondary. Good coaches have there ducks in a row, they lay out the year in advance and teams are generally decided on in September.
Good Luck out there.
Speaking of coaching and Travel Ball....
Several coaches metioned hear have been talked about on the elite travel ball web sites.
Tom Matsie has joined the Seminoles as Assistant Head Coach. That team has had mixed reviews in the past regarding many of the issues discussed in this thread.
Sam Source is coaching Beren Beach, an organization out of New York.
Some of the travel teams have formed partnerships with older teams, like the Diamondbacks and Deucedoc's Orioles team.
So this travel ball is integrating with the high school players and the men that coach them more than ever.
Several coaches metioned hear have been talked about on the elite travel ball web sites.
Tom Matsie has joined the Seminoles as Assistant Head Coach. That team has had mixed reviews in the past regarding many of the issues discussed in this thread.
Sam Source is coaching Beren Beach, an organization out of New York.
Some of the travel teams have formed partnerships with older teams, like the Diamondbacks and Deucedoc's Orioles team.
So this travel ball is integrating with the high school players and the men that coach them more than ever.
BBallDad - That's a very good point. Established travel baseball programs offer year round conditioning and training. These programs should be looked upon as a nice compliment to what the high schools offer.
It's also very true, that the key is finding a travel team with good coaching. Lot's of them out there, some are focused on the win/loss record and the national polls. Parents need to do a little research on the organization. Find a program that clearly has your son and his development as it's top priority. We have found that some of the better programs have paid coaches on staff. Many of the top travel organizations have the financial resources to really provide your son with exposure to excellent coaching & training that will help him develop and reach his potential. Can the travel organization do more for your son than the high school coach, can't answer that..Depends on the coach, player and parents. Most "recruiting" is initiated by the parents. High School & Travel coaches can both offer your son help with this aspect, however, the parents must be aware that the majority of work is on them. Get your son to some good college camps and showcases. East Cobb has a well structured program that is well connected to many colleges and scouting outlets. The college coaches and scouts that we know of would be inclined to call both the high school coach and travel team coach in an effort to determine a players makeup.
Having your son involved with a highly regarded travel organization can prove to be very valuable with regard to development and exposure.
Michael Ibach; Regional Director - Travel Ball Select USA
It's also very true, that the key is finding a travel team with good coaching. Lot's of them out there, some are focused on the win/loss record and the national polls. Parents need to do a little research on the organization. Find a program that clearly has your son and his development as it's top priority. We have found that some of the better programs have paid coaches on staff. Many of the top travel organizations have the financial resources to really provide your son with exposure to excellent coaching & training that will help him develop and reach his potential. Can the travel organization do more for your son than the high school coach, can't answer that..Depends on the coach, player and parents. Most "recruiting" is initiated by the parents. High School & Travel coaches can both offer your son help with this aspect, however, the parents must be aware that the majority of work is on them. Get your son to some good college camps and showcases. East Cobb has a well structured program that is well connected to many colleges and scouting outlets. The college coaches and scouts that we know of would be inclined to call both the high school coach and travel team coach in an effort to determine a players makeup.
Having your son involved with a highly regarded travel organization can prove to be very valuable with regard to development and exposure.
Michael Ibach; Regional Director - Travel Ball Select USA
Playball2,
I feel like after reading that, I should have graduated or at least received a diploma...lol
Good Stuff!!
I feel like after reading that, I should have graduated or at least received a diploma...lol
Good Stuff!!
It is important to realize that all travel/elite teams are not created equal and if you don't get into a good travel team fairly early it is difficult to break into their lineups.
In our area most of the Travel teams are lined up with certain US colleges. If they need a player they contact the coach of the travel team not the HS coach. My son's HS coach was an assistant coach to a local university club.He was not happy my son wanted to play in the US. We left him out of all recruiting info.
In our area most of the Travel teams are lined up with certain US colleges. If they need a player they contact the coach of the travel team not the HS coach. My son's HS coach was an assistant coach to a local university club.He was not happy my son wanted to play in the US. We left him out of all recruiting info.
This is an example of Travel Baseball drawing the attention of scouts TBS-USA covered the WWBA World Championships - 293 MLB scouts attended.
80 different high profile travel teams from all over the United States met in Jupiter, FL from October 26th – 30th for the WWBA World Championship. This event is regarded as the top scouting attraction in baseball. According to Perfect Game, they can document (with a receipt) 293 Major League Scouts, 288 college coaches, 59 agents/other scouting personnel, and 62 Perfect Game Scouts that all attended this year’s event. We focused on the (2009 grads) and have initiated a new program to include players 12-18. Some of those younger athletes you might have seen mentioned by TBS in the past are 2006 TBS All American Tony Calhoun from the ABD Bulldogs in California, Brent Zimmerman from the Reds Scout Team in Ohio (even though Brent is from Florida), and Jake Mayer from the Richmond Braves organization. Highlights included the East Cobb Astros defeating Tony Calhoun and the ABD Bulldogs by a score of 5 to 2. The Houston Heat defeated the South Florida Bandits by a score of 3 to 0. The Dirtbbags from North Carolina defeated the Central Florida Renegades 5 to 1 and the Reds Scout Team, with Brent Zimmerman beat the PGCrosschecker Team by a score of 4 to 1 with Brent being the winning pitcher. Brent pitched 6 innings giving up 2 hits, 1 run, and had 3-k’s. In the final four that started at 10:25, The Houston Heat defeated the East Cobb Astros (who were expected to win this year’s event) by a score of 5 to 3 to make it to the ship. The Reds Scout Team came up with a 2 to 0 victory over the Dirtbags to also make it to the ship. The Reds defeated the 2004 champion Houston Heat by a score of 3 to 0 in the final game of the 80 team tournament played at Jupiter’s Roger Dean Stadium, as lefthander Andrew Lambo and righthander Sam Runion combined on a two-hitter with 10-k’s. This years Reds Scout Team was a mixture of players from this year’s Midland Redskins and top prospects they recruited for this one tournament. The Reds ran the table at this year’s event by winning eight straight games. Congratulations to the Reds Scout Team from Ohio. (Though only 4 players were from Ohio). You will not get that kind of exposure at a high school event. Visit TBS-USA for a feature on the next story shaping travel ball - "The Scout Team" and what that brings to the table. Ibach
80 different high profile travel teams from all over the United States met in Jupiter, FL from October 26th – 30th for the WWBA World Championship. This event is regarded as the top scouting attraction in baseball. According to Perfect Game, they can document (with a receipt) 293 Major League Scouts, 288 college coaches, 59 agents/other scouting personnel, and 62 Perfect Game Scouts that all attended this year’s event. We focused on the (2009 grads) and have initiated a new program to include players 12-18. Some of those younger athletes you might have seen mentioned by TBS in the past are 2006 TBS All American Tony Calhoun from the ABD Bulldogs in California, Brent Zimmerman from the Reds Scout Team in Ohio (even though Brent is from Florida), and Jake Mayer from the Richmond Braves organization. Highlights included the East Cobb Astros defeating Tony Calhoun and the ABD Bulldogs by a score of 5 to 2. The Houston Heat defeated the South Florida Bandits by a score of 3 to 0. The Dirtbbags from North Carolina defeated the Central Florida Renegades 5 to 1 and the Reds Scout Team, with Brent Zimmerman beat the PGCrosschecker Team by a score of 4 to 1 with Brent being the winning pitcher. Brent pitched 6 innings giving up 2 hits, 1 run, and had 3-k’s. In the final four that started at 10:25, The Houston Heat defeated the East Cobb Astros (who were expected to win this year’s event) by a score of 5 to 3 to make it to the ship. The Reds Scout Team came up with a 2 to 0 victory over the Dirtbags to also make it to the ship. The Reds defeated the 2004 champion Houston Heat by a score of 3 to 0 in the final game of the 80 team tournament played at Jupiter’s Roger Dean Stadium, as lefthander Andrew Lambo and righthander Sam Runion combined on a two-hitter with 10-k’s. This years Reds Scout Team was a mixture of players from this year’s Midland Redskins and top prospects they recruited for this one tournament. The Reds ran the table at this year’s event by winning eight straight games. Congratulations to the Reds Scout Team from Ohio. (Though only 4 players were from Ohio). You will not get that kind of exposure at a high school event. Visit TBS-USA for a feature on the next story shaping travel ball - "The Scout Team" and what that brings to the table. Ibach
Ibach,
That is not indicitave of travel baseball, only perfect game's event.
For example, my son was picked up by a team two weeks before Jupiter and was their opening pitcher there, but didn't participate in travel baseball.
That is not indicitave of travel baseball, only perfect game's event.
For example, my son was picked up by a team two weeks before Jupiter and was their opening pitcher there, but didn't participate in travel baseball.
AND THUS YOU HAVE THE REASONING THAT MOST HS COACHES THINK TRAVEL BALL IS GARBAGE!!!!!!!
Deuce That's a shame, too bad they don't see the benefit and opportunity that a quality travel program can offer. We asked the parent of an East Cobb player what was involved.
"Do you train in the winter with them?(Speed and agility classes with them twice a week. We do our own speed and agility here in Georgia twice a week. Twice a week plus he works out in the weight room four times a week.) Some organizations hire trainers and others have very impressive well structured off-season programs. It would be a perfect world if HS and Travel coaches could set aside the turf wars and all focus on the kids and the development of the individual. HS coaches "Thinking travel ball is garbage" just seems so unnecessary. We are starting to hear that many HS coaches will grant waivers for a player to attend a quality Travel Tournament and miss a routine HS summer league game. That appears to be a HS coach putting the kid first and the realization that the at-bats and the level of competition is in fact a great opportunity for the player .
"Do you train in the winter with them?(Speed and agility classes with them twice a week. We do our own speed and agility here in Georgia twice a week. Twice a week plus he works out in the weight room four times a week.) Some organizations hire trainers and others have very impressive well structured off-season programs. It would be a perfect world if HS and Travel coaches could set aside the turf wars and all focus on the kids and the development of the individual. HS coaches "Thinking travel ball is garbage" just seems so unnecessary. We are starting to hear that many HS coaches will grant waivers for a player to attend a quality Travel Tournament and miss a routine HS summer league game. That appears to be a HS coach putting the kid first and the realization that the at-bats and the level of competition is in fact a great opportunity for the player .
It seems that you would want your kid to be seen by as many "scouts/coaches" as possible. Hopefully, somebody will like your son enough to throw a little sugar at you. It's kind of a numbers game. If all you do is play high school, you are REALLY limiting who will see your kid. I saw more "scouts/coaches" in one day down at Jupiter, FL than I have seen at all the high school games I have ever been to in my life/combined. I won't even get into a discussion of talent...
Deuce I visited your site and noticed that you coached at the HS & Junior College level, now you run a summer team. At which coaching level did you enjoy the experience most? What type of obstacles did you face along the way. Did budget constraints hamper your efforts at the HS level? What level provided you with the best support and at which level do you feel you were able to do the most for the kids. I am interested in your perspective, having worked on both sides of the fence, what is your opinion of HS coaches that think "Travel Ball or summer teams are garbage"?
Deuce, I crown thee with an honorary doctoral degree in mental toughness
CPLZ, Just highlighting the fact that top travel events frequently draw scouts. You are correct with your comment, the PG event set the bar high. Not many events in any venue will compare to that with respect to scout attendance. CABA High School World Series and Junior Olympics have a nice scouting gallery.
You will see a handful of scouts watching the top local HS prospects or at the State playoffs. The top 2008 Brian Lorenz from Lyons Township doesn't even play travel ball.
You will see a handful of scouts watching the top local HS prospects or at the State playoffs. The top 2008 Brian Lorenz from Lyons Township doesn't even play travel ball.
Deucedoc,
I agree that many HS coaches think very little of travel ball.
I also think that there are many poor travel ball teams, and if you set out to indict travel ball, you will have no shortage of examples you can point to.
But there is an awful lot of good in travel ball, and anyone who says it's all garbage may think they are really smart, but in reality they are showing their ignorance. Or, in the case of many HS coaches, their foolish pride -- their belief that there is no baseball anywhere better than what they have going on.
My son's 2006 16u travel team would've beaten the pants off any varsity team in our AAA region that year. Not even close. And we got to go places where we could challenge ourselves against other teams of similar caliber. We cannot do that with our school team.
On his HS team, a player might be the center of attention, but if he joins an elite travel team, he learns he's just one of many elite players and he has to fill a role. That can be very healthy for a player's development, both as a player and as a young man.
I agree that many HS coaches think very little of travel ball.
I also think that there are many poor travel ball teams, and if you set out to indict travel ball, you will have no shortage of examples you can point to.
But there is an awful lot of good in travel ball, and anyone who says it's all garbage may think they are really smart, but in reality they are showing their ignorance. Or, in the case of many HS coaches, their foolish pride -- their belief that there is no baseball anywhere better than what they have going on.
My son's 2006 16u travel team would've beaten the pants off any varsity team in our AAA region that year. Not even close. And we got to go places where we could challenge ourselves against other teams of similar caliber. We cannot do that with our school team.
On his HS team, a player might be the center of attention, but if he joins an elite travel team, he learns he's just one of many elite players and he has to fill a role. That can be very healthy for a player's development, both as a player and as a young man.