USC or Texas

THE Univeristy.

Definately Texas


GO LONGHORNS

I dont pull for either team so I am not biased in my opinion. USC is the better team with the most explosive weopons. I really dont care who wins but I just can not see Texas stopping USC. I can see USC slowing down Texas enough to outscore them. Both teams are outstanding and deserving of a NC. I feel that they are the two best teams by far. I dont think anyone else is in their league.

So what makes USC better than Texas? Texas has played better ball than USC this year.

See last year. USC runs better, throws better, has better receivers, a better line, and Pete Carroll has over a month to put together a plan to isolate Vince Young and stop Texas. This will be no contest just like what happened to the vaunted Oklahoma team who had a coach that is much better than Mack Brown.

The only way they are going to isolate Vince Young is if they hire hookers the night before and he oversleeps and misses the team bus.

I think USC wins but Texas will play much better than Oklahoma did.

USC will beat the Longhorns......

I know you people from Texas don't wanna hear it, but, you can get ready for it......Southern Cal wins.....

USC wins 40-17.

and this might even be the best bowl game !!!

Right with the White Sox in 2005 and in 2006.

Texas will beat USC...Saw a couple of USC games. Bush and the 2nd guy are "loads". The big USC qb will be running for his life.

Young will have a game for the ages.

Texas in this one.

I dont think I can ever remember a worse bowl season as far as match ups. Personally I like the Ohio State game to be the best game. Too many bowls. Too many meaningless games. A playoff scenario would be awesome for college football. Just like in 1-AA DIV 2 and DIV 3. But we all know that will not happen anytime soon. Untill it does we are stuck with one game that matters. The NC game. And we are stuck with all the what ifs. Well at least in Basketball and Baseball we have a true champion.

I think AK will choose.. duh duh da duh. Texas!!
They have a more impressive defense and it will be able to control Reggie Bush, so it will be up to Leinart to beat the Longhorns. Plus I am a monster Nebraska fan, so I gotta go with the Big12. The Alamo Bowl, which matches Nebraska and Michigan, will be the next best game.

I only care about the Sugar Bowl

Hook 'em Horns!!

USC has Bush,
Texas has Young.

USC has Leinart,
Texas has Young.

USC has White,
Texas has Young.

I'm a die-hard Irish fan, but it's Trojans all the way in 05.

Neat graph on final coaches football poll.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/graphics/coaches_fb_poll_2005/flash.htm

TPM:
What a cool graphic - thanks! Gotta love the internet.

Shows that votes on Notre Dame are all over the map. Coach Spurrier voted them 14th!

Interesting poll, but why isn't Pete Carroll on the list of coaches?

That is a slick graphics program. Click on a particulat team and see the expanded graphis. I'm with 06 catcherdad, where is Pete Carroll?

CARROLL may be talking with the Houston team about being head coach and bringing his QB and RB with him

TR, I'm not saying you're wrong, but why on earth would a guy who left the NFL and built the most successful college team around want to leave that ideal world and go back to the NFL? Why,especially, to a team that is going to take a lot more than a QB & RB, as well as new coach before they ever become respectable. As is often the case, the head coach will probably take the fall without being the real problem (can you say NO offensive line?) and the team will not improve much in the near term. By the way, does the Texan's O line bring new definition to the term OFFENSIVE?

dad...MONEY and financial security for himself and his family for life!

Simple as that.

06

I am with Beenthere--- plus the ego factor-- he may want to prove that his first go 'round in the NFL was a fluke

personnally I think he is a great college coach and should stay there

I may be mistaken, but I think he's paid just as much as most NFL coaches. I seem to remember (but at my age, who knows ) that Coach Carroll is paid several million per year. As for ego, how many coaches have ever been on the verge of winning their third consecutive national championship? THAT should be a rather sufficient ego boost, don't you think?

I understand what you're saying about NFL coaching, but I think he'd be nuts to give up one of the best coaching jobs in the nation, in any sport at any level, to go back to the NFL.

Carroll makes about four million a year. He's going nowhere. I wish he would. It would help my Cal Bears.

How does he bring the QB and the RB with him? Is Houston exempt from the draft?

First pick and then a trade

THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!
(and Carroll ain't going anywhere except after 4 in a row next year).

To the people who think Texas will win, have you even seen USC play?

Its gonna be tough for Vince Young to have a great game if Texas never gets the ball. Between Bush, White, and their passing game, USC will dominate the game.

38-24 USC

To all the people who think USC will win. Have you seen Texas Play? They have been the most dominate team this year.


USC could have lost at least 2 games this year. They should have lost the ND game and benefited from a good spot at the end of the game on the fumble that went out of bounds (Should have been spotted closer to the 2 yard line) and the push Bush gave Matt into the end zone which should have been called back.....

PS.USC is a great team though. Game could go either way but Texas has been the best team this year so far......

Darkmoon, I think most of us who've seen USC play will gladly take them over Texas without much hesitation. Last I recall, it is USC who has won 34 in a row, and is on the verge of being the only team in history to win three consecutive national championships. Texas may be awesome, but I think USC will find their crowning glory on their home field in Pasadena.

USC 41-27

Could happen but Texas has been more dominate this year.

darkmoon- We are taught in California to use words in their proper context (along with kicking &^* on the football field). I think you mean dominant and not dominate. Here- I will use it in a sentence for you. Reggie Bush was the most dominant Heisman Trophy winner of all time as he beat the runner-up by a record margin. BTW- Not too hard to dominate the likes of Colorado and the rest of the slop that used to be a great conference.

Okay grammar cop. Keep smoking that Humboldt County weed out there in North California if you think that USC will make this a no contest as you claim. How about that dominating USC defensive performance against that great national power house Fresno State.

PS. USC doesn't have a better line than Texas

One can only hope that this game lives up to all the HYPE

It may not even be the best bowl game this year

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THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!
(and Carroll ain't going anywhere except after 4 in a row next year).

Last time I checked, LSU beat OU two years ago for the national title...looks like the Trojan faithful trying to lay claim to a split NC...BCS brought in to get rid of that...BCS only recognized championship here...USC going for a back-to-back title only.

As much as I want Texas to win, I was very disappointed in Vince Young's reaction to not winning the Heisman, a very "me-first" attitude. I hope by choosing to return for his senior year he learns a little humility.

Even though I would hate to watch it, maybe a beating by USC in the biggest game of the year would speed up the maturing process.

That being said, I still don't see this game being as big of a blow out as USC fans are predicting. Texas had a real test this year in beating Ohio State in Columbus.

I CAN say that the best thing to happen to USC (before Bush winning the Heisman) this year was a fumble.

JMO

Earlier someone posted that nobody is in USC or Texas's league. Obviously, I'm quite biased as a graduate of The Ohio State University but how could you say OSU is not in their league. Arguably, OSU should have beaten Texas (if we didn't do the QB shuffle). As far as Texas vs. USC I think Texas will win (and if Vince Young plays a decent game) they will win big. OSU has one of the top two or three defenses in the country and had serious problems stopping Vince Young. When we shut down his scrambling (in the second half) he beat us with the pass. If Mack Brown doesn't choke with the play calling and his players stay loose they will win. USC can't stop Texas on offense but Texas will stop USC at least occasionally.

Prediction:

USC 135
Texas 3

Its...Gees, you move from Jersey to North Carolina and you go "nuts".

While I think USC can score, I don't believe their defense can stop Texas.

I'm picking the 'Horns, 238-124.

If either of you are giving those points, let me know.

Looking at the above posts got me to thinking...If that game goes into overtime... It might never end.

What is the record for most points ever scored by two teams in a game?

Beenthere,

I went nuts after I read your post. LOL

I moved from NY - not Jersey.

I was going to offer you a hot dog and soda which you could enjoy during the football game.

But now - I am revising that offer to a stale bag of peanuts and a beer - delivered direct from Shea Stadium.

God help you.

Longhorn quarterback is an O.K. player, but, not near as good as Texas people think he is..........USC will have an easy win.....

Good question PG!!

I'm not sure what the most in a game combined is, but I think the most by a team in a game is around 87 by Wyoming. Could be wrong.

Hey darkmoon- I prefer iced tea with lots of lemon. Thanks for the stereotype. I won't start with the sheep or bull jokes for you. Hey, weren't you in that new cowboy movie?

BlueDog - I was at the Texas vs. Colorado game 70-3. Young is a little better than ok. Granted, USC is a little better than Colorado. But I'm still taking Texas by 3 in OT. 84-81.

p.s. 0 punts.

I don't know if the NCAA considers it a record, but in the 1910s one of John Heisman's Gerogia Tech teams beat Cumberland College 222-0. Funny thing if, Tech never got a first down. They scored EVERY TIME they touched the ball.

I just wonder if the Rose Bowl will pale compared to the Fiesta (ND vs OSU) and the Orange (Penn State vs FSU)

SC by 14 45-31

Young will not have seen the complexity of the defenses that SC will throw at him, but he is a dangerous freelancer that can throw on the run and has excellent speed to move the ball up the field to get first downs.

Fresno State ran the underneath over offense and SC couldn't shut it down. Most entertaining game of the entire season.

But in the end Texas will not be able to stop all the SC weapons.

Fouth quarter SC will move away and take it.

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Fresno State ran the underneath over offense and SC couldn't shut it down. Most entertaining game of the entire season.

Ram...I agree. Most entertaining game in a long, long time.

RR- Excellent analysis

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A little late in the thread for this but.....
Look at the "permo grin" on Pete Carrolls face and tell me that he would be this happy in the NFL....The guy is having the time of his life.. . Has there ever been another coach who loves the college coaching life as much as he does?...Agreed he is winning but, I've seen lots of winning coaches who aren't enjoying the coaching life this much...

USC- 49
Texas- 20

The points given up by SC to Fresno St. was a complete aberration, just an off day.

Texas played NO ONE this year except for Ohio State, who they barely beat and the Buckeyes would have no chance against the Trojans.

SC's team speed on both sides of the ball, the number of skill players they have and the coaching talent of Carroll and his staff is something Texas ain't seen. They will be as knocked for a loop as were the Sooners.

HeyBatter,

Guess it's safe to say you're picking Notre Dame to beat Ohio State handily!

This thread will be a lot more "fun" after the game is over, no matter how it turns out. There's some pretty brash words written here predicting big wins for both teams.

Might as well throw in another prediction. USC 58 - Texas 57 in 4 OTs. I really don't think it will be that close!

I think Texas should just mail it in, they have no chance what-so-ever - Ohio State are just a bunch of chumps anyway so that win didn't prove anything - Fresno State on the other hand.....they are really good (sarcasim off).

I keenly remember three years ago when Ohio State won their first NC since 1968. They played the defending National Champs Miami, and similar to this game were given no chance what-so-ever in the game. The game ended up a three-overtime thriller.

I can just see the Texas coaches right now talking and motivating their team. Nobody (outside of Texas) is giving you a chance - no respect. I don't see USC having a defensive answer for Vince Young. I do believe Texas can play defense better than any that USC has played this year. I am not predicting an upset, but I will not be surprised if Texas beats USC. They are the defending Rose Bowl Champs and certainly have a large chip on their shoulders.

I'll preface this by saying I'm not a USC fan. So what if they are defenfing Rose Bowl Champions. They lost Cedric Benson and have little ground game. USC faces better offenses every week than Texas. Why do you think they don't have a defensive answer to Young. They'll put a spy on him or force him to stay in the pocket. Pete Carroll is a defensive genius and the offense speaks for itself. Ohio State should have whipped Texas and would beat them easily now. Shame on them for not going woth one QB earlier. USC wins by 3-4 TD's. BTW- Good luck to whoever plays DLS in prep football in Ohio next fall. They will also be enlightened that California plays pretty good prep football.

Callbb said:

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Why do you think they don't have a defensive answer to Young. They'll put a spy on him or force him to stay in the pocket. Pete Carroll is a defensive genius and the offense speaks for itself.

Ureka, that's it!!! Why didn't the previous 12 Texas opponents think of that? All it takes to beat those uppity Horns is to put a spy on Young to contain him!

I happened to watch the Fresno State game and the defensive genius part must have been beyond my grasp.....

I would be remiss, though, if I did not point out that the only game Texas was held under 40 was by Ohio State and USC's defense is no where near that of OSU. On the other hand, Texas' defense is run by Gene Chizik - who was the NCAA's Assistant Coach of the Year last year at Auburn. His squad is aggressive and much better than USC's.

Regardless, I do expect a high scoring affair that ends with a burnt orange celebration.

I know USC hasn't blown people out quite like they did last year, and they only narrowly escaped in the Notre Dame game, but still there's something to be said for winning 38 (or whatever it is) straight games.

USC wins in a shootout.

Revised prediction:

USC 248
Texas - 5

itsinthegame,

Are you sure it even will be that close (i.e., 248-5)

Jaunuary 4th is getting closer. Are you arrogant USC fans getting ready?

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Originally posted by darkmoon:
Jaunuary 4th is getting closer. Are you arrogant USC fans getting ready?

Can't wait. Last day before practice starts too. Texas has no chance.

Walawala:

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Texas has no chance.

This time around the Bush isn't a Texan like Dub-Yah...if he can be stopped then it should prove to be a good game...with Rumsfeld blocking out front and Condi running interference...it may be a long day for the forlorn...I mean the Longhorn.

Hey USC fans, did you see that Oklahoma win over #6 Oregon State?

Correction:

Oklahoma beat the Oregon Ducks (#5 in BCS) and they are probably the closest thing USC has seen to Texas all year. The Ducks did not impress me at all.

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I smell a conspiracy...

Since the Niners continued their stupidity by actually winning a game and for all intents putting themselves out of the "Bush Bowl"

...it looks like Reggie Bush to the Texans

...Bush and his agent are no fools, order to get a head start on cultivating a large and noisy Texas fan base,

...Bush dogs the Rose Bowl...



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Oregon's upset just proves that we need a playoff system in Div. 1A college football.

Upsets happen all the time (ie. Miami's loss to the Buckeyes in the Fiesta Bowl 2003)

The number 5 BCS team lost to unranked Oklahoma, anything could happen......

You are singing to the choir SoM. I am sure that cancer will be cured or men landed on Mars before a playoff system can be figured out for DI-A. Actually, they are rather busy tackling MORE important issues such as the politicial correctness of college mascots.

lol, Cleveland dad...

Saw the Nebraska game...What a joke!

Texas 427 USC 15

OK Beenthere,

You threw the gauntlet down.

You have a 412 point spread - in favor of Texas.

I am going with:

USC 453 - Texas 2

That would be a 451 point spread.

Wanna bet some doggies on it?

Its - I still think you are being too conservative. I am not sure Texas can manage a safety against them.

Tusla beats that national powerhouse Fresno state 31-24.Fresno State almost beat USC.......

Ok, Just a few hours prior to game....

Bullwinkle thinks USC wins by 3 points.

Well I am hoping for a Texas blow out win. USC deserves to go down with all this national press love affair going on.

Lets hope for the fans that it as exciting as the PSU/FSU game last night

as a michigan fan i have seen both teams in action. i like USC in this game. its either gonna be really close..or a blowout in the favor of USC. USC is gonna win tho, its young against leinart, white, bush, jarrett. im pretty sure everyone here that is not a usc fan can name at least those players (im not a usc fan) and you can only name 1 or 2 players from texas. i hope texas wins, but theres no way thats gonna happen.

IS THIS A BASEBALL SITE OR WHAT?
IN THAT CASE USC HAS NO CHANCE AGAINST TEXAS IN BASEBALL

Observer44: I'm a lifelong Niners fan, back to the days of Brodie and Willard, and couldn't believe they were so dumb as to win the last two, and now draft #6 or #7...........

..But the biggest disappointment of the year for me is knowing that my beloved Hokies haven't sent Marcus Vick packing. His thuggish act was one of the lowest nastiest cheapshots I've ever seen, and ruined what should have been a sweet bowl victory. No class, no character. Head coaches should deal with all of the trash talking and preening once and for all. You don't see that nonsense in D-III, D-II, or even D-IAA. Appalling, simply appalling.

I just hope the game is as fun as I expect it to be.

When have we ever seen two teams with combined 53 game winning streaks meet up in a national championship?

These are both great teams. The outcome should depend on big plays and turnovers - so either team can win.

I don't think either team can stop the other. I've seen USC play several times on TV this year and once live, and haven't watched Texas at all, so all I can say is: USC has lots of offensive weapons.

I haven't looked forward to a college game this much for a long long time.

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Maybe Carroll's team isn't good enough to qualify him to vote....


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High school baseball "connection" to tonight's football game....

Texas has a multi-purpose player(kicks,punts,receiver), 22 year old freshman, Quan Cosby, who was drafted by one of the LA organizations in 2001, signed for somewhere around $1MIL, under-achieved for 3 years in the minors and then "retired" to be a part of tonight's national championship football game. Quan was a pretty good AA highschool baseball outfielder, but he was an exceptional AA football player who was Player of the Year and twice QB'd state championship football teams.

OPP

p.s. Gotta pull for the TeXas boys!

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Rob...

I concur....Was going to go into the outfield this evening and watch the grass grow, but after your excellent synopsis...ah, maybe I'll sneak a peek....

Hope the game matches the hype....

The REAL question, of course, is whether the boys of CAL Tech will pull off a Rose Bowl prank, as they did in in prior years

Read the last one - Number eight.... My brother was at Cal Tech that year, and I was visiting on New Years Day, watched the game with the Techies who did it.

The prank screwed up and killed the scoreboard for about a half hour, stopping the game as a national TV audience waited. We sat in the dorm room and hoped the cops didn't come and grab them!

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Rob...

MY GOD...Darned if you waren't right on the buttom...CLOCK OUT!!...wouldn't you think homeland security would have prevented this?...

Texas giving the game away so far

Both teams making mistakes by trying too hard. Need to let the game come to them. Big plays so far have been on D - which bodes well for Texas

Agree with you, Hokie.

No class for Mr. Vick.

16-10- Texas at the half.To great teams going at it. I could watch this game every week.

HIS KNEE WAS DOWN!!!
FIGHT ON, GO TROJANS!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by futurecatcher27:
HIS KNEE WAS DOWN!!!
FIGHT ON, GO TROJANS![/Q

Texas was going in anyways plus how about the interception that was ruled an incomplete pass?

I do have to say that I was surprised to see USC choose a Michael Jackson tune to play at halftime . Great game so far -- and yes, FC17, his knee was definitely down!

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Originally posted by darkmoon:
Texas was going in anyways plus how about the interception that was ruled an incomplete pass?

Make up call for Vince Young being down when he pitched the ball.

But that call wasnt going to go for a DEFINATE TOUCHDOWN.

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Originally posted by futurecatcher27:
But that call wasnt going to go for a DEFINATE TOUCHDOWN.

USC got 3 points out of that bad call and Texas could have driven right down the field again....

Other than all of the mistakes being made - the one thing that stands out to me so far is #31 on Texas - delivering absolute "kill" shots.

Helmet to helmet - knee to helmet - and shoulder to helmet. Ala Jack Tatum.

USC needs to keep an eye out for that fella. IMO.

quote:

Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Other than all of the mistakes being made - the one thing that stands out to me so far is #31 on Texas - delivering absolute "kill" shots.

Helmet to helmet - knee to helmet - and shoulder to helmet. Ala Jack Tatum.

USC needs to keep an eye out for that fella. IMO.

Watch the holding on the USC line too itsinthegame

yeah - his knee was down. And the interception was VERY questionable. (Not to mention a bad decision to throw it there.) These things even out.

I'm guessing this game won't come down to marginally close calls. No whining. Either way, it'll be won and lost on the field.

I am not a football referee - so I wouldnt know about that.

All I am saying is USC better do something about that guy soon - or they will lose a few more players before the game is over.

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Originally posted by Rob Kremer:
yeah - his knee was down. And the interception was VERY questionable. (Not to mention a bad decision to throw it there.) These things even out.

I'm guessing this game won't come down to marginally close calls. No whining. Either way, it'll be won and lost on the field.

hopefully so

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Beyond the "whiney" call stuff...

Despite being a CA/USC fan...

I see Vince in command running pretty well wild...I see SC missing tons of tackles...I see Texas making theirs...I see SC either forced into a poor game or simply playing one...I see, no, wait, I don't see Reggie...What Heismans?...Gut check for SC, Time to step up, they win this one, they will really earn it...If Texas wins it, I will believe...

Can't the kickers make field goals anymore? USC 24-23 end of third

good news about the missed field goal: increases the likeliood of OT.

So far so good. Young has been brilliant. 4th quarter here we come.

If I'm not mistaken, what I just heard was:

"After review, there was indisputable evidence that Reggie Bush is incredible"

Rob... inedible...not incredible.

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Woody...Welcome! Wondered where you were...thought we could reprise our big game reparte...

SC guys are stepping up....

Wow, Great game! Going to the wire!

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Last team with the ball wins?....

WHAT A GAME!!!!!!!!!!

Darkmoon where are you!!!!

You gotta love this!!!!!!!!

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I believe

VINCE YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Texas it is!

Great Game!!!

I missed by only 454 points.

LOL

USC didn't play smart football down the stretch...goodbye winning streak!

Vince Young is pretty good.

Unbelievable game. I thought USC had it when they scored to go ahead 38-26.Is their any doubt that Vince Young is the best player in america.

SPEECHLESS VINCE YOUNG IS THE GREASTEST EVER I GUESS

Lived up to its hype
I Love football

and it loves you too Rob!

I would love to see them play next week. The 2 best teams by far....

Agree, Rob.

Congrats to two terrific football teams and programs.

Vince Young...remarkable.

What an exciting game! Congrats to Texas!

After that debaucle, fortunately, only 28 days until first pitch...

The BULLWINKLE versus the Cal Bears!

Reggie Who? Hook em.....

Be good,
David

Does anyone else think Vince could maybe show just a little bit more class? Why not shake hands rather than address the crowd. Couldn't he have acted just a little bit more humble when accepting the MVP award?

Sure is a great player though! huh?

Going for it on 4th and 2 from the 40 yard line, what were they thinking? Congrats Horns!

Nobody is talking about that 235 pound missile - Lindale White.

That dude is real good. IMO.

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Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Nobody is talking about that 235 pound missile - Lindale White.

That dude is real good. IMO.

White was terrific,almost game breaking at times

quote:

Originally posted by PGStaff:
Does anyone else think Vince could maybe show just a little bit more class? Why not shake hands rather than address the crowd. Couldn't he have acted just a little bit more humble when accepting the MVP award?

Sure is a great player though! huh?

What did he do that is so bad?

I think that just about answers the original question!

Hook'em!

What a great game.

REGGIE WHO?

Hey TRHit... still think Vince can't play in the NFL? HA!

National Champs baby. And Vince Young is THE MAN - deserves the Championship AND the Heisman. So sweet to stuff it down the throats of all the national media declaring USC the greatest team of all time.. Keith Jackson actually called Pete Carroll the "greatest defensive coordinator and head coach of ALL TIME" - right before Vince sliced right through their defense for the win!

See my Avatar? The Tower is Lit Up #1 tonight!!!




HOOK 'EM!

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Jersey...Heard Caroll said they they went on 4th and 2 late because they knew if they put the ball back into Young's hands they were in trouble...in retrospect Carroll was not crazy....he was prophetic...

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Originally posted by Natural:
REGGIE WHO?

Hey TRHit... still think Vince can't play in the NFL? HA!

National Champs baby. And Vince Young is THE MAN - deserves the Championship AND the Heisman. So sweet to stuff it down the throats of all the national media declaring USC the greatest team of all time.. Keith Jackson actually called Pete Carroll the "greatest defensive coordinator and head coach of ALL TIME" - right before Vince sliced right through their defense for the win!

See my Avatar? The Tower is Lit Up #1 tonight!!!




HOOK 'EM!

USC is a great team but you're right, the media over hyped USC and screwed Vince Young out of a fair Heisman vote

Natural,

Sounds like you are more interested in useless bragging rights than you are in the wonderful performances of the young men on both teams.

I think both teams played a great game - and had many players that did a great job.

Fabulous National Championship game IMO.

Best college game I think I've ever seen.

Too bad for Young that the Heisman vote was several weeks ago. No question the outcome would have been different if the vote was after tonight's game.

Two great programs!

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Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Natural,

Sounds like you are more interested in useless bragging rights than you are in the wonderful performances of the young men on both teams.

I think both teams played a great game - and had many players that did a great job.

Fabulous National Championship game IMO.

The media gave Texas no chance itsinthegame and went way over board with rhe USC worship.

Game was decided by six inches and five letters Y O U N G.

What a great game!

(It still ain't baseball)

PG,

Small disagreement on Vince. He is one of the few guys who when he scores a touchdown acts like he has been there before. He is maybe the best player I have ever seen.

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INITG...

Yep, I sign off when these things get vindictive and bitter...

Later...

Darkmoon,

Thats great.

My focus is on the great performances - not some hack writer or some talking head on TV.

Guess its all perspective.

I revel in watching great performances by the youth of America.
I dont revel in stuffing anything down the media's throat.

Just different perspective I guess.

The next team that wins 34 in a row will also be hyped by the media. Maybe that will be Texas!

"its"... as a TexasEx I have endured hours of USC hype declaring them the defacto champs... we deserve to crow! They even claim a national title they did not win three years ago when LSU won the BCS national championship.

TEXAS:
2005 NCAA Baseball National Champions
2005-06 NCAA Football National Champions

What's next... Basketball National Champions? Watch out ---- we are coming!

HOOK 'EM!

I don't blame any Texas fans for crowing tonight. USC is a great team however. Seems like they made more boneheaded plays tonight.

Natural,

Yeah - thats wonderful.

As I said - I thought there were some great performances by some of the players on both teams.

I really liked Lindale White - and Young and Leinhart were just awesome.

I also thought Carroll called some really poor 4th down offensive plays - and #31 for Texas was the real deal when it came to delivering some early hard core blows.

As for the media - I couldnt care less. None of them were on the field playing and knocking heads. IMO.

Reggie Bush is a first class act. Great interview after the game. Very classy....

Maybe it's just me... Guess I've never been named the MVP of a National Championship, so don't know how one should act.

Congatulations to Texas and Vince Young.

Guess I knew USC was favored by the media, but that same media played this up as possibly the greatest game ever. They were wrong about the winner, but right about the great game.

I didn't care who won the game and was kind of hoping USC could kick a field goal and tie it up at the end. Only to watch some more.

Until this one, I thought Miami and Ohio State was the best one I had seen. This was the best college football game I have seen. So many great players. We should inventory someday how many number one picks were in that game.

Where was Reggie? I am at work and only got to see the game in segments, but every time I got to watch it, Reggie wasn't in. His stats weren't very impressive either. Anyone got any input?

Just listened to Vince Young (class) interview on ESPN. Changed my mind... Feel much better about him now... I'm a believer... I love the guy!

Think NFL? or back again next year?

NFL - and a huge bag full of dollars.
A no-brainer IMO.

I still can't believe Matt Leinart isn't in the NFL. What more is there left for Vince to prove in college? I personally would not risk it. I understand staying though.

Those that say the guy can't throw are crazy. His throw is not classic but effective especially when you throw it from a 6-5 frame. Lee Corso said it well. He is a 6-5 Michael Vick. I think a better passer than Michael Vick IMHO.

Cleveland - I sure as heck hope he will be better than Michael Vick. Vick throws the ball as poorly as just about anyone I have ever seen in the NFL.

I think Young is head and shoulders above Vick.

Reggie Bush didn't have a "great" game, but he still had over 270 total yards. It seemed obvious that Texas game plan was to smother him and they did a good job of it.

Vince Young had a GREAT GAME!

Its - I agree with your assessment. Ok I am going to make you all GM's right now.

Rate the three players on your board right now.

Here are my top 3 and some other from tonights game:

1) Vince Young (If I already have an excellent quarterback I take Reggie bush)

2) Reggie Bush

3) Matt Leinart

4) LenDale White

5) Michael Huff

6) David Thomas

7) Limus Suede

8) This list can keep going...USC's Recivers

9). Marcus Allen

I would go with

1) Young
2) White
3) Leinhart
4) #31 DB on Texas - that was delivering kill shots early in the game. Dont know his name.

Its - I believe that was Huff who was named defensive MVP. A vicious tackler who reminds me a little of Ronnie Lott. If 31 was not Huff, just another player to add to the list.

I hate to think it and of course hope Vince comes back but... if I was the Houston Texans GM I'd hire Mack Brown as my head coach, trade David Carr for draft picks (to be used on offensive linemen) and draft Vince #1.

Vince returns to his hometown of Houston as the National Champion hero and #1 pick with his favorite coach.

As a diehard Orangeblood, I hope it does not happen.

Cleveland - I was watching #31 - when he was "off the ball" - it wasnt easy to do given all the exciting action.
He was delivering some hard core blows to anyone on the field that wasnt paying attention - and to others who were. LOL

As you said - reminded me of Ronnie Lott - John Lynch - Jack Tatum - and Terry Kinard - just not as big.

#31 is Aaron Ross. He is so good he is not even a starter on defense. That's how many athletes Texas had this season.

Huff (#7) won the defensive MVP and last month won the top defensive player award in the nation.

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Originally posted by calbb:
See last year. USC runs better, throws better, has better receivers, a better line, and Pete Carroll has over a month to put together a plan to isolate Vince Young and stop Texas. This will be no contest just like what happened to the vaunted Oklahoma team who had a coach that is much better than Mack Brown.

Well calbb?

quote:

Originally posted by HeyBatter:
USC- 49
Texas- 20

The points given up by SC to Fresno St. was a complete aberration, just an off day.

Texas played NO ONE this year except for Ohio State, who they barely beat and the Buckeyes would have no chance against the Trojans.

SC's team speed on both sides of the ball, the number of skill players they have and the coaching talent of Carroll and his staff is something Texas ain't seen. They will be as knocked for a loop as were the Sooners.

Well Heybatter?

Regarding Pete Carroll's plan to corral Vince Young...back to the drawing board Pete...you've got the whole off-season to scratch your head!

NATURAL

I am not sure he is a NFL QB---playing college aint the pros---lineman bigger and faster when flushing QB's out of the pocket hwich means QB's do not escape like they do in college

The kid is a great athlete but I am still not sure if he is a NFL QB---have seen too many "great" college QB's and running backs not make it in the NFL

Bush, last night looked like he has been reading too many press clippings--looked very unsure of himself

The last two nights somewhat got the BCS people top ratings after a lot of bad years--- two of the greatest games for a fan to watch

Funny aspect with the media--- all of a sudden Young is the "greatest" QB and nobody talks about the USC Heisman guys--how rapidly they can turn !!!

I thought Young had the greatest individual performance I've seen by a college player. He's unique - the first QB ever to throw for 2,500 yards and run for 1,000. His athleticism is astounding and I would think that his tools will allow him to excel in the NFL.

baseballdad

Watch how he throws-- he was accurate as all git out last night but his throwing motion is not "normal"--- I can see him as kick/punt returner right out of the box in the NFL and I bet he would make one heck of a defensive back in the secondary covering all those 6ft6 receivers that abound now in the NFL.

Keep in mind that if he goes early he will go to a team with no offensive line which could be a killer for him

Looks like the baseball team set the stage for the football team @ Texas.

Congrats to all Longhorn's for a top rated 2005 season.

If you have never been to Austin, you should make plans to see a truly magnificent city and school.

TR,

He would get abused as a secondary player in the NFL. He's 230 pounds! And while he's fast, he could never cover the likes of Owens or Moss. Conversely, Owens or Moss could not run an offense with precision, throw the ball downfield with both strength and touch, and run like John Riggins in the open field. He may not be a classic quarterback, but at the bottom line he's the best in college football today with great promise for a successful NFL career in some team's backfield.

HSBBWeb Old Timer
"Posted December 06, 2005 06:23 PM
Right with the White Sox in 2005 and in 2006.

Texas will beat USC...Saw a couple of USC games. Bush and the 2nd guy are "loads". The big USC qb will be running for his life.

Young will have a game for the ages.

Texas in this one."
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Now if I could only figure out the lottery numbers.

Pretty quiet on the left coast today, huh?!

BeenthereIL:

Hard to argue with your prognostication capabilities...you picked 'em...nice job!

Be careful with that shoulder of yours...you might tear something patting yourself on the back...well deserved pats mind you.

quote:

Originally posted by Natural:
Pretty quiet on the left coast today, huh?!

It's just 9:20am on the left coast now, just got the time to respond.

Defense wins championships, USC had more than its share of opportunities to stop UT but didn't. Young had a outstanding game, and I give UT credit for not caving in.

Look back at my post yesterday, I thought a 3 point spread was correct....just picked the wrong team.

Congrats to USC and the run they had.

Congrats to UT for a great finish to an outsatnding year.

(But as far as baseball goes, we Californians will have a say in the NCAA's for baseball....as well as every other state in this union.)

My son and I saw Vince Young play in an All Star HS football game sponsered by the U.S. Army. It had players from all over the U.S. We were amazed at his athletic ability. He was a man among boys. He still is. Amazing performance. It has been fun to follow him since we saw him in that game. Way to go UT.

Been - nice call on Texas but you nor anyone else picked the Sox to win the series in 05. You picked the Sox to win their division and lose in the first round. Look it up.

From the left coast and a die hard USC fan since the Garret days.

Congrats to Texas and Vince Young on a great game.

Where was USC's defense? Besides allowing Young to scramble at will, they never seemed to be within 5 yards of a receiver. I was amazed that USC kept it that close.

USC's offense was all that it was cracked up to be to put that many points on the board vs. a very good Texas defense. Sure they slowed down Bush, but USC was never always about Bush. Take Young away from Texas and how would they have fared.

Young for President.

USC is a classy team, gotta respect them. Had a great year. What did Young have like 80% of UT's total yeards, so teake away him Texas would've struggled. But the versitility of Young led them to victory. Great game. Gotta love the 'horns!!

Congrats to USC on an awsome Dynasty they put up and will still have.
Congrats to Texas on winning it all. I saw Vincent Young play a year ago agaisnt Kansas. 4 and 17 texas has the ball with 25 seconds down by six. Drops back and runs for the first. next play throws a TD for the win. will never forget it. reminded me of the play he made to win last night.

You can't overlook how good of a game Matt Leinart had.

Leinart, unlike Young, played against a good defense, and Leinart showed why he's the best QB in the nation.

Congrats to Young and Texas, but also to Leinart and USC.

BTW, who else thinks Mack Brown did nothing but watch the Rose Bowl? I've got a feeling Young turned around 1/2 of Brown's calls.

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Originally posted by micdsguy:
You can't overlook how good of a game Matt Leinart had.

Leinart, unlike Young, played against a good defense, and Leinart showed why he's the best QB in the nation.

Congrats to Young and Texas, but also to Leinart and USC.

BTW, who else thinks Mack Brown did nothing but watch the Rose Bowl? I've got a feeling Young turned around 1/2 of Brown's calls.

No question that Matt Lienart is a great quarterback but Young does more with less weapons than Matt. I was disappointed with the less than gracious quotes Matt had to offer after the game but I guess he was being honest even though he came across as somewhat of a sore loser. I think that Matt is the best bet for college quarterbacks going to the NFL but Vince has more upside potential...

Kudos to the game's referees who must have done an adequate job since nobody is talking about them too much. Granted they gave TexaS a touchdown when Vince's knee touched but as critical as that may have been, it seemed inocuous compared to many of the other bowl game's bad calls.

Was this the worst year for refs in bowl games or what? There were so many terrible calls that affected games.

The most obvious bad refs I saw were during the Florida-Iowa game. I feel bad for fans of both teams who were cheated from perhaps seeing the greatest game of all time. It probably wouldn't of been but I guess we'll never know.

SBK,

I was there and still haven't seen the replays of the off side. People tell me the player was not off side. Is that true?

How can that call be made if it did not happen? It's not like blowing a tough call. If you don't see off side... How do you throw the flag?

Anyway, Florida deserved to win the game. They dominated the first 3 quarters. 5o minutes of boredom (for Iowa fans) and 10 minutes of excitement. Too bad about the on side kick being recovered and not counting. That really would have made things even more interesting.