smokky
You have to grow up and post as a gentleman not as a wise guy and learn to speak to adults with respect
Funny how your location says so much--you are from "nowhere"
Me thinks we have another troll on the loose
Why should i repect you when you do not respect me?
Excuse me for not giving out my exact location where i live.
Excuse me for not giving out my exact location where i live.
Hey (Bros & Sisters),
First of all, I would like to say Happy 4th and you "all" are my heros. Not trying to stick my nose where it doesn't belong and I'm not getting involved in the weighted balls disagreement or anything about Zachary Duke but I am here to tell you that LOW337 has many years experience as a professional pitcher, pitching coach instructor and is currently a person with great control of who plays professional baseball and who doesn't...He is a part of the establishment and has many years of hands-on experience.(full-time) He is my personal friend and has great passion for the game of baseball and has just got an opportunity and slowed down enough to give his time here and post for his desire to help others...I would appreciate it if you wouldn't run him off before he gets back...He has a lot to offer and is one of the best baseball people I know and I know quite a few. I'm not going to tell exactly what LOW's title is because he would like to remain anonymous which I certainly can't blame him in the position he's in. He has played with several HOF players on the same team, pitched against HOF pitchers and can teach us all a great deal about the game of baseball if we will listen and keep an open mind. He has great passion for helping others and could be in many other places other than posting here. As a request, I humbly ask to please keep disagreements within reason and respect each other.
Peace, Shep
First of all, I would like to say Happy 4th and you "all" are my heros. Not trying to stick my nose where it doesn't belong and I'm not getting involved in the weighted balls disagreement or anything about Zachary Duke but I am here to tell you that LOW337 has many years experience as a professional pitcher, pitching coach instructor and is currently a person with great control of who plays professional baseball and who doesn't...He is a part of the establishment and has many years of hands-on experience.(full-time) He is my personal friend and has great passion for the game of baseball and has just got an opportunity and slowed down enough to give his time here and post for his desire to help others...I would appreciate it if you wouldn't run him off before he gets back...He has a lot to offer and is one of the best baseball people I know and I know quite a few. I'm not going to tell exactly what LOW's title is because he would like to remain anonymous which I certainly can't blame him in the position he's in. He has played with several HOF players on the same team, pitched against HOF pitchers and can teach us all a great deal about the game of baseball if we will listen and keep an open mind. He has great passion for helping others and could be in many other places other than posting here. As a request, I humbly ask to please keep disagreements within reason and respect each other.
Peace, Shepquote:Originally posted by Shepster:
Hey (Bros & Sisters),
First of all, I would like to say Happy 4th and you "all" are my heros. Not trying to stick my nose where it doesn't belong and I'm not getting involved in the weighted balls disagreement or anything about Zachary Duke but I am here to tell you that LOW337 has many years experience as a professional pitcher, pitching coach instructor and is currently a person with great control of who plays professional baseball and who doesn't...He is a part of the establishment and has many years of hands-on experience.(full-time) He is my personal friend and has great passion for the game of baseball and has just got an opportunity and slowed down enough to give his time here and post for his desire to help others...I would appreciate it if you wouldn't run him off before he gets back...He has a lot to offer and is one of the best baseball people I know and I know quite a few. I'm not going to tell exactly what LOW's title is because he would like to remain anonymous which I certainly can't blame him in the position he's in. He has played with several HOF players on the same team, pitched against HOF pitchers and can teach us all a great deal about the game of baseball if we will listen and keep an open mind. He has great passion for helping others and could be in many other places other than posting here. As a request, I humbly ask to please keep disagreements within reason and respect each other. Peace, Shep
Ok, but major leaguers DO USE WEIGHTED VESTS and riveria does use a weighted ball. A lol of people make judgements on weighted baseballs without doing enough research. Speak to ron wolforth. He has a LOT of older players gaining velocity with his weighted baseball programs
Smokky
You are correct and different organizations do different things and I truly see your point and thank you for your respectful reply. I currently scout "pro coverage only" and look forward to meeting you in the future brother.
Regards,
Shep
You are correct and different organizations do different things and I truly see your point and thank you for your respectful reply. I currently scout "pro coverage only" and look forward to meeting you in the future brother.
Regards,
Shep
i have a question shep. I currently throw VERY WILD. I know a pro pitching instructor that could help me. Do you think it is worth the 50 bucks a week? are pitching mechanics that important?
Shep,
Thanks for the bio on LOW.
It will make his post more interesting even if I don't agree with him.
It does not surprise me that someone with his level of experience might find that the use of weighted balls to be spurious and possibly harmful.
I dont know that I've talked to one established coach that doesnt have some reservations about them. Indeed most are opposed to them.
The specific objection LOW raised delt with the method of determining the effects of over/underload training. He stated that the normal developement could account for the increases observed.
I just wanted to mention that they were done with Control groups that essentially did all the things the weighted ball throwers did EXCEPT that they didn't throw the weighted balls. The gain in velocity was compaired to the control groups and the increases judged to be as a result of WB throwing and substantial.
There's much to be learned about baseball from established baseball people and maybe much more to be learned from people contributing to the sport from other backgrounds.
Hopefully we all can listen without prejudging.
Rollerman
Thanks for cutting in Shep. Low has shown great knowledge in the past. The weighted ball program is reportedly being used by some minor and major leaguers. I have been told by a friend that Papelbon is one who swears by them. This guy is connected to the organization, so maybe its true. I have heard of injuries due to improper use of the weighted balls, thats why I strongly suggest that the player using them should be monitored closely.
Could someone give me an idea of how often(# of times per week) and how much time is required for each workout session for Ron Wolforth's "The Athletic Pitcher" Program. This information would help my son and I in deciding wheather we should purchase this program. He is currently using a work out program for pichers, but this one sounds very interesting. Football season is about to be here and his HS Team is counting on him playing, they need him, but we are trying to decide if he can fit everything in. Any infomation you have knowledge of about the AP Program will be a great help. Thanks.
If you're serious about the AP Program, it takes about a good hour to an hour and a half depending on how quick you get through things. Its definately a full body workout. Velocity will definately increase if you do the whole program correctly.
You will be doing the program 2 or 3 times per week during the off season plan on one hour to hour and a half. During the in season mx routine it goes a little quicker as you cut back on reps. You will see gains going 2x per week during football and then pick up the 3rd day after football ends over the winter. great program but it does take commitment and time. Good Luck.
Thanks guys for the information. I'm going to talk to his baseball/football coach and see if he will allow him to use the AP Program during his Advance PE course he takes during school hours (class is 1 1/2 hour). I hope he will cooperate as this could benifet other players as well. Thanks again.
Rolling, one other comment is that I would not do the ap program without good supervision.
Thanks Line, that is another reason I hope I can get it worked into this Advanced PE class because his coach who oversees this class is a Doctor in strenght and conditioning. He will provide great supervision. He designed our schools heavy lifting, which is what this class is, and conditioning program. One of my concerns is not to allow my son to do too much heavy lifting as a pitcher. He is mixing lighter weights and alot of stretching into his present routine along with some heavy lifting for football.
