I too wish this; our system has school only M-Th, and they are ending the year 2 weeks early. And then what? My HS kid is engaged with his schoolwork, and it gives him something to do that isn't playing video games (which even he is getting tired of).
But, my sense is that there are lots of kids who are just not doing the work now, either because they can't (don't have internet or materials) or their parents don't support/make them do it. So the schools are trying to balance between everyone.
Even though I was prepared for this, it still saddens me to read about HS sports cancellation here. I know the school closings will greatly affect many to go back to work.
@anotherparent my wife is a teacher at a pretty affluent school. Everyday there are kids that don’t do anything. One day twins were out fishing with dad, another day a kid lost internet, another set of twin’s parents won’t let them do Zoom because they don’t want people to hear their household conversations. She teaches elementary grade kids.
The high school which is also pretty affluent is a joke. They are a disaster on a good day during regular time. During Zoom learning they’ve had kids do bong hits, girls flashing, dudes showing up and doing muscle posing shirtless during class, kids with porn playing int the background, etc.
This experience has made us so much happier that we sent our son to a private high school
In NJ, we're still on hold until May 15th. The NJSIAA said that they will play right up to 6/30 if the kids return to school in May (some time). For those watching the numbers, NJ is really bad, second only to NY. But, here's the thing: NJ has 21 counties and is 150 miles long. 60% of the cases in NJ are in the upper northeast corner of the state where it borders NY. For sure, most likely, trying something in those NE counties doesn't really make sense. The counties in south NJ are in much better shape. Really seems sad to paint the whole state with one brush and wipe out the season for the kids in a county where it wasn't bad and is now in control - just because a county 100 miles away is a mess.
TerribleBPthrower posted:@anotherparent my wife is a teacher at a pretty affluent school. Everyday there are kids that don’t do anything. One day twins were out fishing with dad, another day a kid lost internet, another set of twin’s parents won’t let them do Zoom because they don’t want people to hear their household conversations. She teaches elementary grade kids.
The high school which is also pretty affluent is a joke. They are a disaster on a good day during regular time. During Zoom learning they’ve had kids do bong hits, girls flashing, dudes showing up and doing muscle posing shirtless during class, kids with porn playing int the background, etc.
This experience has made us so much happier that we sent our son to a private high school
I actually am pretty shocked that there will be remote learning again. Kids have a tendency, no matter where they go tend to take advantage.
Iowamom23 posted:TerribleBPthrower posted:Yes. Although I know it was extremely unlikely, we were still holding out hope they would squeeze in a short season.
I think it is smart to keep kids home the rest of the year. Besides the health situation, at this point it would be like the last week of the year every week. Teachers would all go insane and quit
Iowa HS baseball season slated to start Memorial Day as usual. Still hoping they can get something in.
Governors keep saying that if they brought kids back mid May that it's not enough time before school lets out for the year. Here's my question ‚ why does school still have to end in May? Why not bring the kids back mid May or June 1 or whatever works for the state you're in, and go for a month or so, let out for a few weeks and come back in August sometime?
You could even have half the kids come Monday/Wednesday, half do Tuesday/Thursday, everyone do online or distance learning on Fridays.
Am I missing something or is anyone considering any of this? Should we be?
School days can’t extend past June 30. It’s the end of the fiscal year. On July 1 the schools start their new budget year to ramp up for an August opening.
Francis7 posted:In NJ, we're still on hold until May 15th. The NJSIAA said that they will play right up to 6/30 if the kids return to school in May (some time). For those watching the numbers, NJ is really bad, second only to NY. But, here's the thing: NJ has 21 counties and is 150 miles long. 60% of the cases in NJ are in the upper northeast corner of the state where it borders NY. For sure, most likely, trying something in those NE counties doesn't really make sense. The counties in south NJ are in much better shape. Really seems sad to paint the whole state with one brush and wipe out the season for the kids in a county where it wasn't bad and is now in control - just because a county 100 miles away is a mess.
A lot of NJ high schools are also in the metro Philadelphia area that isn’t doing so well right now.
TPM posted:TerribleBPthrower posted:@anotherparent my wife is a teacher at a pretty affluent school. Everyday there are kids that don’t do anything. One day twins were out fishing with dad, another day a kid lost internet, another set of twin’s parents won’t let them do Zoom because they don’t want people to hear their household conversations. She teaches elementary grade kids.
The high school which is also pretty affluent is a joke. They are a disaster on a good day during regular time. During Zoom learning they’ve had kids do bong hits, girls flashing, dudes showing up and doing muscle posing shirtless during class, kids with porn playing int the background, etc.
This experience has made us so much happier that we sent our son to a private high school
I actually am pretty shocked that there will be remote learning again. Kids have a tendency, no matter where they go tend to take advantage.
Remote learning only works if the student is disciplined. Chances are too many high school kids aren’t not.,
My daughter's step kids go to the best private school in our county. It's 30k for 1 who is 14, and 14k for the other on scholarship.
She said that they need to come up with a better plan for 44k.
TPM posted:My daughter's step kids go to the best private school in our county. It's 30k for 1 who is 14, and 14k for the other on scholarship.
She said that they need to come up with a better plan for 44k.
It’s hard to justify spending college $$ on HS. Unless money is no object.
I normally drive 25-30 minutes everyday to drop my son off and again to pick him up so he can attend a top prep school in Palm Beach. For us, the time and expense is worth it now that we’ve seen the difference in what he gets there compared to the public school. Academically, the private prep is leaps and bounds ahead of the public high school. The college counseling and access to admission reps is also going to be a huge advantage when it comes time to apply. The athletic department also has a full college recruiting plan for each kid that desires to play college sports.
One of the administrators from the public high school is going to send her son to the prep school next year. She said the high school is a mess and it won’t get any better with the current principal.
TPM posted:My daughter's step kids go to the best private school in our county. It's 30k for 1 who is 14, and 14k for the other on scholarship.
She said that they need to come up with a better plan for 44k.
That is the $55k+ question for all of us pondering paying private college tuition this fall if classes are still online then. (Yes, it's too soon to know what will happen. But yes, quite a few schools are making plans in case everything is still online-only come September, and most schools have already decided to hold their summer classes virtually.)
At least I can save on room and board, but that's a lot to pay for my kid to spend ten or twelve hours per week on Zoom with no access to science labs, etc. And IMO a big part of the value of college is interactions that occur on campus and making connections there--that doesn't happen online.
TerribleBPthrower posted:I normally drive 25-30 minutes everyday to drop my son off and again to pick him up so he can attend a top prep school in Palm Beach. For us, the time and expense is worth it now that we’ve seen the difference in what he gets there compared to the public school. Academically, the private prep is leaps and bounds ahead of the public high school. The college counseling and access to admission reps is also going to be a huge advantage when it comes time to apply. The athletic department also has a full college recruiting plan for each kid that desires to play college sports.
One of the administrators from the public high school is going to send her son to the prep school next year. She said the high school is a mess and it won’t get any better with the current principal.
What is the school? My daughters kids go to Heritage South.
Chico Escuela posted:TPM posted:My daughter's step kids go to the best private school in our county. It's 30k for 1 who is 14, and 14k for the other on scholarship.
She said that they need to come up with a better plan for 44k.
That is the $55k+ question for all of us pondering paying private college tuition this fall if classes are still online then. (Yes, it's too soon to know what will happen. But yes, quite a few schools are making plans in case everything is still online-only come September, and most schools have already decided to hold their summer classes virtually.)
At least I can save on room and board, but that's a lot to pay for my kid to spend ten or twelve hours per week on Zoom with no access to science labs, etc. And IMO a big part of the value of college is interactions that occur on campus and making connections there--that doesn't happen online.
Governor Ron DeSantis declared off site until after Xmas. They are waiting to see if the younger one is accepted to another school. While money is no object, people that have lots of it know when its time to be frugal....lol. Kids get a lot of work, but I don't know how seriously the take it.
It's not fun staying home with 2 teens.
DeSantis did this because the teachers union had a big say in FL what they wanted. More than likely looks to see the same thing will happen in other states.
Francis7 posted:In NJ, we're still on hold until May 15th. The NJSIAA said that they will play right up to 6/30 if the kids return to school in May (some time). For those watching the numbers, NJ is really bad, second only to NY. But, here's the thing: NJ has 21 counties and is 150 miles long. 60% of the cases in NJ are in the upper northeast corner of the state where it borders NY. For sure, most likely, trying something in those NE counties doesn't really make sense. The counties in south NJ are in much better shape. Really seems sad to paint the whole state with one brush and wipe out the season for the kids in a county where it wasn't bad and is now in control - just because a county 100 miles away is a mess.
Franny, there is a lot of intrastate travel. CNJ is a mess too. SNJ counties is still in the 100s but hopefully the lock down will drop it more. Murph does not seem ready to partial open counties.
TPM posted:Governor Ron DeSantis declared off site until after Xmas. They are waiting to see if the younger one is accepted to another school.
Huh? I'm confused. Do you mean the end of the school year? Our school year was cancelled a month ago.
My kids do remote learning well because my wife is working from home and makes sure they do their work like a "chain gang boss-man". If she went back to work and the kids stayed at home the kids would flunk nursery school.
ABSORBER posted:TPM posted:Governor Ron DeSantis declared off site until after Xmas. They are waiting to see if the younger one is accepted to another school.
Huh? I'm confused. Do you mean the end of the school year? Our school year was cancelled a month ago.
FL school year ends mid May. Off site learning will continue until they go back after Christmas.
DeSantis, IMO is worthless, so who knows if that will change. But I think the teachers threatened strike, and I don't blame them. Not sure.
Most of the teachers in my son's public high school are going above and beyond with online teaching; my son is very engaged, I don't know how many of the other students are. I imagine it's a very mixed bag in his school, but then, I'm sure it was a mixed bag when they were live at school also.
2022NYC posted:My kids do remote learning well because my wife is working from home and makes sure they do their work like a "chain gang boss-man". If she went back to work and the kids stayed at home the kids would flunk nursery school.
Kudos to your wife. She's doing important work.
I teach at a state university. I'd say fewer than half of my students are working at a level that their pre-online work showed they clearly were capable of. Some of that is because they may have kids of their own now at home, lost income from jobs that have disappeared, or just stress and anxiety in our current strange times. But much of the problem is that young adults don't typically have mom or dad making sure they get their schoolwork done. Online education takes a lot of discipline--either self-discipline or externally imposed. And many K-12 students don't have adults who can or will provide the structure students otherwise get from in-person classes.
I struggled with my online training program...I thought I had the discipline to do it but I ended up losing weeks of sleep, taking days off work to cram and submit assignments. In the end if I could do it over again, I would go to class or stay at work during my off shifts to do it.
@TPM where are you seeing schools closed until Christmas? I can only find the announcement until the end of the current year
TerribleBPthrower posted:@TPM where are you seeing schools closed until Christmas? I can only find the announcement until the end of the current year
Ok. Sorry. End of school YEAR. My bad.
That's actually what happens when you watch the wrong channel. Again, sorry if I made you all panic.
Thanks. Didn’t know if my Google skills were in decline. While keeping the schools closed to begin the year may be necessary, I thought it would be a little early to make that decision.
I fully disagree with your moniker, it should be changed to "ultimate BP discipline coach" . There is no such thing as a terrible BP thrower, all hitters need to work on pitch discipline.
2022NYC posted:I fully disagree with your moniker, it should be changed to "ultimate BP discipline coach" . There is no such thing as a terrible BP thrower, all hitters need to work on pitch discipline.
Lol, if you only knew! It’s more like dodgeball practice when I throw overhand. I jacked up my shoulder years ago and the only throwing motion that doesn’t cause excruciating pain is not easy to repeat consistently.
Just in from the FHSAA:
FHSAA CORONAVIRUS Update - April 20, 2020
GAINESVILLE, FL -
Following Governor Ron DeSantis' announcement mandating schools continue distance learning for the remainder of the 2019-20 school year, it is with heavy hearts that the FHSAA has decided to cancel all FHSAA affiliated events, inclusive of the state series and all championship events, for spring sports. The safety of our student-athletes, coaches, officials, and fans is our top priority. With the evolving threat of the CORONAVIRUS (COVID-19), we must ensure that we do not contribute to the spread of this illness. We are deeply saddened for our student-athletes who have seen their seasons and/or high school careers end so abruptly. Our Association knows the impact and role high school athletics play in the lives of so many and will continue to work towards the betterment of high school sports. We know this is a trying time, but the health and safety of all is of utmost importance to this Association.
Under the guidance of the Florida Department of Education regarding grade level retention, and upon review of the Florida Statutes and FHSAA Bylaws, no additional eligibility will be granted for spring sport athletes. For clarification regarding student-athlete eligibility, click here.
To all our senior student-athletes, we thank you for dedicating your time and efforts to your school, your coaches, and your teammates. Cherish the memories you have made and embrace all that the future holds for you. While we are saddened that you are unable to compete this season, we could not be prouder to have been represented by such hard-working individuals.
Our Association is eager to reconvene all sports in the 2020-21 school year. In the meantime, we strongly encourage everyone to continue adhering to the recommendations of the CDC and your local health departments during this hiatus. Please remember to practice social distancing, frequently wash your hands and avoid touching your face. For the latest CDC updates, click here.
Can we keep politics out of this thread?
In Ohio, it’s over😢
Still no announcement in MN, but the nice lady who takes our checks announced that she has ripped them up. Chances are somewhere between slim and none that any HS ball is being played...I have my doubts that Legion will be.
Travel team organizations are enthusiastic about a mid, or late May start. I think they are delusional, but it's tough for them. They are doing nothing but lose money right now.
Hawaii is done, but no announcement about Legion yet. There are only two travel teams that have any kind of consistency and at least one of them has cancelled their mainland trip, which was supposed to be late July and early August.
What is all this Legion baseball people talking about is that Little League or something?
I've never heard of it.
Eokerholm posted:What is all this Legion baseball people talking about is that Little League or something?
I've never heard of it.
It evaporated in Texas a long time ago but is still going strong in some regions of the country. It starts at age 13 if I remember right. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
is that when Little League ends and Legion takes over? Rec Ball? Never heard of it in Texas. Son (2021) started playing YMCA/Rec ball 10 years ago but then travel at Spring 8u/ Fall 9u.....
Eokerholm posted:is that when Little League ends and Legion takes over? Rec Ball? Never heard of it in Texas. Son (2021) started playing YMCA/Rec ball 10 years ago but then travel at Spring 8u/ Fall 9u.....
Before travel ball took off Legion was about all there was. An awful lot of guys played before 1990. And I can tell you from personal experience that travel ball didn’t exist at all before 1980.
Back in the early 90’s it was very good in FL.
Eokerholm posted:What is all this Legion baseball people talking about is that Little League or something?
I've never heard of it.
Before travel ball Legion was the big thing. I played on a team that combined five high schools. We had ten future D1s and a MLB signee on our roster. Two of the D1’s signed out of college. Legion used to brag it was the path to the majors. Before travel every MLBer played Legion.
By the time my son was playing 17u travel ball Legion was a bunch of 80 mph pusser pitchers and mediocre hitters.
Some programs let their best players play travel and just enough Legion to be eligible for the post season. There are a handful of good teams in each state. The Legion World Series is still quality ball. But with its team territory rules no team can completely load up on pitching like a travel team.
Eokerholm posted:Wat is all this Legion baseball people talking about is that Little League or something?
I've never heard of it.
not sure if you’re trolling?!? 
definitely a generational and regional phenomenon. Only game in town for Hawaii kids who don’t go to the mainland during the summer and play for West coast (usually) travel teams.
definitely a rung below mainland travel teams, except for the one team of hs grads and college freshmen that gets together and beats everyone else’s hiney.
Seriously, not trolling. I said I didn't know.
There is little league here, but no one plays or you don't hear much about it in Austin, TX. EVERYTHING is Travel ball and has been, like I said since 9U. Adbono mentioned it started at 13, so assumed after LL.
I grew up playing select/travel soccer in Ohio. Never got into baseball until my son tried teeball at 6/7 with the YMCA. Then he progressed to Coach Pitch at Town & County (local rec) for 2 years and then select ball at 8 and then 9U, then nothing but kid pitch travel ball at 9U. His team MOJO, then Team Citius, was ranked #10 in the country at 11 by Travel Ball Select. We had to play up and travel to Dallas, Hou, and GA to get good competition. Austin wasn't a baseball town then. Now with PG relocating to Hutto, it definitely is picking up.
Hope I didn't offend, Eokerholm. I'm an antique.
I grew up on the mainland and played Legion in HS because, like adbono wrote, there was no travel ball in the 70s. Legion was king of the hill and teams were aligned with a particular HS where I played. If you weren't good enough for Legion but you still wanted to play there was the City Parks League and PONY. Legion was 15 and older. Babe Ruth filled the gap between LL and Legion. PONY was an alternative in those tweener years (13-15).
Nowadays in Hawaii there are two legion seasons, summer and fall. Travel ball is so expensive here that it really only consists of two different "organizations" taking 2-3 week road trips to tournaments up and down the west coast in late July/early August. Kids who are really serious about their ball usually move to So Cal for the summers before jr and sr year, and play on any number of club teams that get more exposure in week than they'd get all summer if they stayed in Hawaii. Most D3 level guys do the showcase circuits in order to advance to college ball.
