big hitting, SLOW running, sophomore 1B - what Division colleges to target for now?

YachtRocker posted:

bacdorslider posted:

Until he gets really serious about the grades D3 will be an issue.... I would hate to go to a D3 and end up not playing.  Most of the D3's that are solid will want an ED and some pretty high test scores. ACT for instances 33 and above.  

 Well like I said has only taken PSAT and scored in 95th & 98th percentile for verbal & math respectively..  From that I could project from a test score perspective he could be in decent shape there. 

Sounds like you have a 3.5, 1450 SAT type student who takes AP classes.   That is a very good academic profile.   Seriously you can shave that half second off the 60 easy.  Trust me on this.   Just more maturity and some working on form will get him there.   Combine that with a very good fielding 1B who hits for average and power and you have an overall very good profile.   

My suggestion is start focusing on what majors he wants, zero in the top 20-25 school fits.    Next summer he can be a 7.3 60 with 90+ exit velo.  Then you email your best college targets and some will come out to see him play and then take it from there.   

Having just gone through this my #1 with a bullet advice is your son (with your guidance) needs to drive the process as far as identifying schools and reaching out to coaches.  Don't leave it to chance that the coaches / schools will find you.    Don't skip this step.  Take control.

Oh and if you want high academic do a headfirst showcase.   I would say probably not worth it the summer between Sophomore and junior year unless he can play for a UVA/Vandy  (you will know if that's realistic or not but for 99% of kids - no way) or get into an IVY.   We did it for the experience between Sophomore and Junior year and really enjoyed it but just minor interest came out which also helped us zero in at what division he should be looking.  Certainly do it early the summer between Junior and Senior year where you can still get some mid tier D1's (Patriot Leagues) and a lot of the HA D3's.....

The purpose of going to the best college possible is to have the most possible doors opened when entering the working world. But ultimately you have to prove yourself. Yes, there are other side benefits that may not ultimately matter.**

But don’t you think a motivated, highly intelligent, high IQ person who attended an Ivy would ultimately get to the same place professionally if he attended Wossamottah U. 

** A friend of mine, a farm boy from Nebraska went to Harvard for football and he was bright. He married a Wellesley girl from a generationally wealthy Brahmin Boston family looking for a Harvard boy. Anything else would have been unacceptable to her family.

It took a long time for the family to accept him. I think it was when he became a senior partner in one of the top private equity firms in the world and worked out of the London office they accepted him.

It cracked me up at the Hyannisport Country Club when snobs would snicker quietly, “You know, he’s not from money.” I would think to myself, “He’s wealthier than all of you. AND, he earned it.”

RJM posted:

The purpose of going to the best college possible is to have the most possible doors opened when entering the working world. But ultimately you have to prove yourself. Yes, there are other side benefits that may not ultimately matter.**

But don’t you think a motivated, highly intelligent, high IQ person who attended an Ivy would ultimately get to the same place professionally if he attended Wossamottah U. 

** A friend of mine, a farm boy from Nebraska went to Harvard for football and he was bright. He married a Wellesley girl from a generationally wealthy Brahmin Boston family looking for a Harvard boy. Anything else would have been unacceptable to her family.

It took a long time for the family to accept him. I think it was when he became a senior partner in one of the top private equity firms in the world and worked out of the London office they accepted him.

It cracked me up at the Hyannisport Country Club when snobs would snicker quietly, “You know, he’s not from money.” I would think to myself, “He’s wealthier than all of you. AND, he earned it.”

Great story!    Happiness & success are obviously defined for everyone differently..  While I appreciate & applaud your friend's accomplishment & success, to me personally, I'm not sure pursuing wealth beyond the things one wants to do in life proves - in the end - worth sacrificing the more precious commodity of time required sometimes to do it.. That's a very deeply individual life choice.

To the idea of a "Wellesley girl from a generationally wealthy Brahmin Boston family"  I'd say, better him than my son.  Hey if it happens it happens.. Can't control who you love..  But we'd not be getting together with the in-laws much for that spot of tea dahhling, or a round at the club - I'm afraid..  I'll skip the club & spend another couple months at the beach.  To each our own!

And as to the concept of "having the best doors opened to you"  - some may have a difference of opinions on what those "best doors" are..

Finally;  "don’t you think a motivated, highly intelligent, high IQ person who attended an Ivy would ultimately get to the same place professionally if he attended Wossamottah U"

Maybe not the "same place professionally" as many in society view it..  But the "same place" as I personally (just me, not you, not others.. lol) define LIFE success? (which I personally place over professional success in-and-of itself)

..then, YES - yes I DO!

I'm successful enough to be content & comfortable in my life - & that's what, along with good health, I hope for with my kids. 

But yet again - probably another conversation, for another forum..  Cheers.. 😛

and thank you again for your comments!

RJM posted:

The purpose of going to the best college possible is to have the most possible doors opened when entering the working world. But ultimately you have to prove yourself. Yes, there are other side benefits that may not ultimately matter.**

But don’t you think a motivated, highly intelligent, high IQ person who attended an Ivy would ultimately get to the same place professionally if he attended Wossamottah U. 

** A friend of mine, a farm boy from Nebraska went to Harvard for football and he was bright. He married a Wellesley girl from a generationally wealthy Brahmin Boston family looking for a Harvard boy. Anything else would have been unacceptable to her family.

It took a long time for the family to accept him. I think it was when he became a senior partner in one of the top private equity firms in the world and worked out of the London office they accepted him.

It cracked me up at the Hyannisport Country Club when snobs would snicker quietly, “You know, he’s not from money.” I would think to myself, “He’s wealthier than all of you. AND, he earned it.”

Some people from dynasties don't accept newly rich people even if they are richer than themselves. In Germany there even is a word for newly rich people (like for everything) from lower classes.

The aristocrats used to look down on selfmade rich people because they thought they were rude bragging people with no sense for class and understatement.

Now there are really people like that, the costly skiing resort st. Moritz in Switzerland for example is famous for young russian millionaires who buy 5k champagne bottles, get really drunk and demolish hotel rooms because they tend to think paying for it entitles them for everything but the biggest reason that "old money" doesn't like new money is of course they like to stay an exclusive club and people rising undermine this. Frowning upon newly rich is a way to keep that exclusivity.

Not sure how that is in the US which was founded post aristocracy, maybe different there than in traditional aristocratic countries like England.

But that is very off topic of course

The US has its own generational aristocracy mostly going back to the Industrial Age. But from my anti snobbery view the current generations are not as relevant in today’s age as they believe themselves to be. It’s fairly common for the family tree to wipe out the wealth in three or four generations. 80% of wealthy Americans have earned their wealth and are considered Nouveau Riche. I have more respect for those who have earned wealth or generated more wealth rather than living off it and look down their noses at others.

Genius post

Take a look at rosters and what those players did in HS.

Interesting article on sprint training 

https://www.stack.com/a/how-a-...ged-indiana-football

6’1” 220 pound kid from my son’s travel program with a big lefty bat and slow feet just committed to a D1 a few days ago.

To 3AND2FASTBALL, Thanks for the encouragement. 

I'm just glad that my 2024 big still has a couple more years to lean out and speed up some.

I'm also liking that Pete Alonso has helped to make big & slow more fashionable in 2019!  baseball-reference.com has him listed at 245 lbs. That said, Pete's PG profile indicates that the polar bear was running a 7.1 sec. 60 yd dash the fall term of his HS grad year … not at all slow for corner IF.