High School Team issues...What do I do?

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Originally posted by RJM:

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...and yes the coaches sons that are in his grade play that position

It doesn't matter what position your son plays in high school as long as he eventually works his way into the lineup and enjoys playing. There's a 95% chance if he eventually is recruited for college ball it will come from his travel team. Playing a second position is good for demonstrating versatility when getting recruited.

I agree with RJM on this one. Seems the focus should be getting on the field somewhere at this age vs. where do I want to play.

Maybe since my son's primary position is catcher it is me, but I actually enjoy watching my son play some OF or 1B. Nice little break and I can tell you my son would say he enjoys the break as well.

True story that I am sure many of the regulars on this board are familiar with. Kid from Corpus Christi area. Word is never caught a single inning at his HS one of the top 4As in the state (course he is such a stud he played SS and pitched) but he is a top 20 draft eligible catcher and going to Texas to catch.

Next year if my then freshman son has the opportunity to get on V he won't care what position it is. He wants to catch but understands his summer team is what is important there.

dolphin, don't let these old farts here get to you. Many, maybe most, frosh Dads have the same questions as you. I think it's a natural process that will sort itself out.

Good luck. Relax.

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Originally posted by biggerpapi:
I've been thinking about this for a couple of days as I'm not too familiar with 8th graders playing JV or V baseball.

To me JV or V means 10-12 grade. Right?

So if there are so many 8th graders at this school that are Varsity quality, does that speak highly on the 8th graders or poorly on the 11-12 graders? Or even the program?

Just a question.

Understand the thought here but sometimes money matters!

In our city there is no middle school baseball so the 8th graders have to try out for JV at the High Schools. My son's school graduated two players that were Major league Allstars last year (the only high school in the country that can make that claim), won the State Championship in the largest class, finished in the top 30 in 3-4 National polls.

They usually take anywhere 5-7 players per year and it is considered to be a huge honer to make the club. The JV is something like 64-7 over the past 4 years and these 8th graders get to be absorbed into the program by practicing and watching games from the bench. Only the very best will actually start or make significant contributions.

About half of those kids would be 3 or 4 year starters in about 2/3 of the area schools and most won't nail down varsity positions until their Jr. year. That assume's they don't get passed out by some younger hotshot by then. When that happens they have to decide if they will ride the bench, transfer or quit.

Short of abuse, I really don't think transferring solves anything at all. It doesn't provide the life skills most of us need to succeed in life. You usually can't quit a job when the boss passes you up for a promotion but must work through it as just one example but staying, putting your head down and working applies in all area's of life every day.

Nothing is better then my son now, having landed on top and proved doubters wrong beyond any doubt after being cut from varsity as a junior and now headed to a D1 of his choosing. Like a previous poster mentioned, teach your son to let adversity **** him off so that he is completely dedicated to proving people wrong. Make it work for him! The tools you will provide in the long run exceed anything manipulating a better HIGH SCHOOL baseball experience can provide.

Regarding position, I doubt many people's kids play their "best" or projected position in high school. The best kids are fit onto the field and my son plays short stop in high school when he has never seen an inning there on his club team! Why? Not because he can't field the position but because another is better but on hs team that isn't the case. He won't see short stop in college either but honestly, his ability to play where they need him is nothing but helpful as colleges wonder how a player fits their program.

Good Luck and don't obsess over this...honestly, sit back and enjoy it and understand he is too young for you to lose any sleep over but not too long for you to teach.

Serious question about middle schoolers that play high school ball, since it doesnt happen here in St Louis.

Dont you guys have 13 U or 14 U ball that they can be playing instead? Kids around here play select ball or whatever you want to call it instead. I mean some of the boys were probably good enough to play on the freshmen or JV team, but they just didnt do it here. The summer teams started playing leagues or tournemants in late March.

Also, of these boys play high school ball, where do they play when the season ends in mid May? Again, all the teams here start way earlier and it would be too late to get on one of those teams.

Dolphin-
Ignore the smart *** comments by some. you will get to know a little about personalities here soon enough. Lots of people are well intended but remember we don't know you, your son or high school at all. We've been given a couple of one sided paragraphs to go by and no one here is an expert on your situation so take all comments accordingly. You've been told to make lemonade out of lemons by some and embrace the adversity learn that life is not fair don't cut and run, work hard and prove yourself and they will have no choice but to play him. BULL!!! NICE FANTASY!!! Let's get to the real world. Focus on summer ball. that is where the real opportunities will come. If the coach is unethical and wants his kid to play no effort by your son will change that. Some poor coaches remain for years or at least long enough to outlast a kids two or three year high school career. Staying the course and beating your head against a brick wall to prove you can survive adversity. How noble. Would you stay in a job with poor management little to no chance for advancement to prove you can take it and become a so called stronger person if you had other opportunities and options. Yes sometimes you have to fight through stay the course and it does make you stronger and more prepared and sometimes your just a martyr taking a bullet for nothing. Make a calm unemotional well thought out decision. Enlist the advice of those who know better than we do and know more about your situation. Scout the private schools for a good baseball fit. Coaching character players winning and advancement. Remember you son will spend 99 percent of his high school days off the field. it must be a good fit socially or he will hate it. Last, it must be his decision alone and academics must come first and be most important because statistics tell us that I can bet my house no one is going to pay your son the play baseball in the end. Let us know how it works and best of luck

Speaking of smart*** comments:

I get the feeling some of these people go to the barbershop after games and harrangue the coach when he comes in for coffee.

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Originally posted by Mizzoubaseball:
Serious question about middle schoolers that play high school ball, since it doesnt happen here in St Louis.

Dont you guys have 13 U or 14 U ball that they can be playing instead? Kids around here play select ball or whatever you want to call it instead. I mean some of the boys were probably good enough to play on the freshmen or JV team, but they just didnt do it here. The summer teams started playing leagues or tournemants in late March.

Also, of these boys play high school ball, where do they play when the season ends in mid May? Again, all the teams here start way earlier and it would be too late to get on one of those teams.

Yep we have it. But they won't join until after the school season is over. Pretty competitive too.

During the summer a lot of schools will enter Legion Ball with 20 man rosters and players will play on both the travel team and the Legion games when they can. Sometimes the Legion game has 17 kids and others 11. They play about 20 games from the 2nd half of June through early August mostly during the week. If your kid is maxing out they can play 40+ games in the 7-8 weeks after school ends. Almost everyone takes 3+ weeks off in August until after labor Day. Fall Ball is about 6 weeks until late October with about 10-12 games.

Isn't coffee kinda gross at a barbershop?

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Originally posted by ironhorse:

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Originally posted by dolphindan1:

Thanks....sarcasm is pretty subtle....but to respond to ur statement.....u are right i will make **** sure its the best choice for my son....cause the choice he was given by the school district sucks

Colt McCoy's dad, a high school coach here in Texas, came and spoke at my church and said something that struck a nerve with me. His advice for fathers was:

"Prepare your child for the path, not the path for your child."

Kinda seems to me like it addresses one of the main reasons this country is heading off course.

Easy words for a High school coach whose son was very good.

If I was Colt McCoy's Dad I would have tried to prepare him for any path other than the Cleveland Browns.

Parents can manipulate their children's situation but ultimately not their talent. High School is the time to let them stand on their own feet.

The words of Colt McCoy's father aren't really easy as I've lived them. It's a brutal path but my son and I are proof it works out without parent meddling if it's meant to be. This time last year I thought his dreams were ending but by letting it play out, he ends with the last laugh and a great lesson.

Bottom line, get on the best club team you can with a coach who knows how to help his team be seen and be placed on college teams, that's all you need beyond talent and effort.

Last thing, although as a high school freshman I think it's way too soon to worry about high school ball, it's not too early to get on the right club team. Spend your time and energy doing that.

I was not being sarcastic. I was giving my advice just like everyone else is giving you advice. That is why you posted right? You wanted to hear what others thought right? So why did I say I think you should transfer your son?

You believe the coaches are playing Daddy Ball. You don't think they gave you son a fair shake. You don't believe he can get a fair shake at this program. That is what I got out of your posts. So why would you leave him there?

Now if I was his coach and you felt that way I would want you to transfer your son. I wouldn't want you in my program. And I wouldn't want a kid who was getting that stuff poured down his throat at home from the person he trusts the most. Is that wrong of a coach to feel that way?

If the coach could come on here and give his side of the story and the team mates of your son both JV and Varsity maybe we would have both sides of this story. Maybe it would all check out just as you say. But really for your own peace of mind just transfer him out of this BS program and give him a fresh start and you as well. Is that being sarcastic?

I have been around this block more than one time in the last 25 years. Your doing the coach right, your son and yourself by leaving. Now if you can go to the AD and get the coached fired, get the HC position and make all the decisions you believe should be made by all means stick around. Otherwise do everyone a good one and transfer. A little sarcasm there. A whole lot of straight truth. Wether you like it or not.

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:

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Originally posted by ironhorse:

Colt McCoy's dad, a high school coach here in Texas, came and spoke at my church and said something that struck a nerve with me. His advice for fathers was:

"Prepare your child for the path, not the path for your child."

Kinda seems to me like it addresses one of the main reasons this country is heading off course.

Easy words for a High school coach whose son was very good.

So principles change based on your kid's athletic ability?

Thou shalt not covet is easier if you're wife is hot? What if your neighbors wife is hotter?

Principles should stay the same.

This has been a very interesting post to say the least. I believe you honestly want to do what is best for your son. That is admirable. I will give you an honest take from both a coach and a father.
First,I do not believe that honesty builds character..it reveals it. It sounds like your son has enjoyed great success and was thought highly enough of by a coaching staff to keep him as an 8th grader. Something I would think does not happen much. Now, faced with adversity, you are telling your son to blame it on the coaches. Even if you are not telling him directly, he will know how you feel. You are now telling him to run from this adversity and take the easy way out.
Second, you said that the JV program is good but you criticize the way the team practices. Maybe they are learning more than you give them credit for. Maybe the staff wanted to see how your son dealt with some adversity to see if he had the makeup to be a varsity player.
Third, why are you at every practice? Drop him off and go home. He is at practice so he can become a better ball player. It is not for you, it is not about you. It is about your son becoming a young man. If he is bothered by something, let him tell you. You appear to enjoy your son's summer team, let him work through this a little and then have a nice summer.
My first year as a varsity assistant, my younger brother was on the JV team. I felt he was pretty darn good but he wasn't starting or playing that much. I did not say a word. My advice to him, play as hard as you can, practice harder than everyone else and be ready when you get your chance. He got his shot and never left the field. He went on to play pro ball. He learned that things will not always go your way and you have to work hard and be patient. I will tell you as a high school coach I do not pay much attention to summer stats. I follow my boys but I judge them by what I see. What are you showing these high school coaches? Are they seeing a dad judging them and undermining anything they do? Are they seeing a hard working kid that wants to be better? I am not trying to judge because I am not there, but again I would say drop him off and stay home and see how he handles it. If you are not capable of doing that then I would listen to Coach May's sound advice and move on. It would be best for everyone at that point.

As I start my due diligence this year and next scoping out high school baseball programs in preparation for my son's entrance into high school I will look at how the coaching staff teaches the kids.
The advantage parents who desire to understand baseball mechanics have today are the multitude of youtube videos and books by the professionals that illustrate proper fundementals of batting and pitching.
One poster in another forum said his son's high school coaches were taking video of each kid batting and then making the same undeducated comments to each kid on how to "fix" the swing.
Just because you are a high school baseball coach doesn't mean you know anything about how to play the game.
Due diligence before hand will help a parent find the program that will develop a kid and prepare him for the next level.
I already know for certain where I will not send my son to play high school baseball in our area.
Right now I am fortunate to have a travel ball coach with 15 yrs experience who understands the game more than most small town high school baseball coaches.

If you're gonna go watch every practice why not bring the coaches some snacks for after? They have to be hungry after all those fungoes.

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:
As I start my due diligence this year and next scoping out high school baseball programs in preparation for my son's entrance into high school I will look at how the coaching staff teaches the kids.
The advantage parents who desire to understand baseball mechanics have today are the multitude of youtube videos and books by the professionals that illustrate proper fundementals of batting and pitching.
One poster in another forum said his son's high school coaches were taking video of each kid batting and then making the same undeducated comments to each kid on how to "fix" the swing.
Just because you are a high school baseball coach doesn't mean you know anything about how to play the game.
Due diligence before hand will help a parent find the program that will develop a kid and prepare him for the next level.
I already know for certain where I will not send my son to play high school baseball in our area.
Right now I am fortunate to have a travel ball coach with 15 yrs experience who understands the game more than most small town high school baseball coaches.

I have not lived in Texas since the early 90's so maybe I am just out of date, but how do you choose your kid's high school, assuming it is public? Even in metropolitan areas aren't you zoned for a particular high school? (My choice was San Saba or San Saba.)

"As I start my due diligence this year and next scoping out high school baseball programs in preparation for my son's entrance into high school I will look at how the coaching staff teaches the kids."


Interesting that you are looking at schools for their baseball programs. Not once did I read anything about educational programs. Don't take this the wrong way, but you might have your priorities out of whack. What will you do if your son decides not to play, or is injured and his career is over? It ends for everyone at some time. Maybe look for the best education and then look for strong baseball opportunities.

you can move or get a sham apt.

some growing school districts allow open enrollment to new schools.

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:
As I start my due diligence this year and next scoping out high school baseball programs ... The advantage parents who desire to understand baseball mechanics have today are the multitude of youtube videos and books by the professionals that illustrate proper...

Just because you are a high school baseball coach doesn't mean you know anything about how to play the game.

Yeah TOTALLY, I can see where a parent searching through youtube videos would be way better than trusting a HS baseball coach.

Do you have any idea how many different "expert" hitting philosophies are floating around the internet? Of course if there's actually a youtube video, I'm sure that makes it legit.

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:
As I start my due diligence this year and next scoping out high school baseball programs in preparation for my son's entrance into high school I will look at how the coaching staff teaches the kids.
The advantage parents who desire to understand baseball mechanics have today are the multitude of youtube videos and books by the professionals that illustrate proper fundementals of batting and pitching.
One poster in another forum said his son's high school coaches were taking video of each kid batting and then making the same undeducated comments to each kid on how to "fix" the swing.
Just because you are a high school baseball coach doesn't mean you know anything about how to play the game.
Due diligence before hand will help a parent find the program that will develop a kid and prepare him for the next level.
I already know for certain where I will not send my son to play high school baseball in our area.
Right now I am fortunate to have a travel ball coach with 15 yrs experience who understands the game more than most small town high school baseball coaches.

I bet all the coaches are just hoping that you pick them. The winner gets the son of the crazy dude sitting behind the backstop at practice. They probably see you there and text their buddies that it's their lucky day.

Where do these people come from.......

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Originally posted by ironhorse:

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Originally posted by dolphindan1:

Thanks....sarcasm is pretty subtle....but to respond to ur statement.....u are right i will make **** sure its the best choice for my son....cause the choice he was given by the school district sucks

Colt McCoy's dad, a high school coach here in Texas, came and spoke at my church and said something that struck a nerve with me. His advice for fathers was:

"Prepare your child for the path, not the path for your child."

Kinda seems to me like it addresses one of the main reasons this country is heading off course.

Awesome!

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"Prepare your child for the path, not the path for your child."

You can do both and we all do.

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Due diligence before hand will help a parent find the program that will develop a kid and prepare him for the next level.

We did our due diligence when we moved into the area. We looked for homes in the top rated academic school districts. Everything else was gravy. My kids managed to maneuver through any obstacles and excel on the sporting side.

Their school coaches abilities ranged from excellent to questionable. My kids thrived in every one of the circumstances. One time my son got really screwed I asked him, "What is your solution to the problem?" rather than make excuses and find a clearer path for him.

Humorous note: You should have seen the look on my son's face (at 12yo) when I told him we moved from the LL that was the Western representative to the LLWS and was outbid on a house within the boundaries of the Mid-Atlantic representative.

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Originally posted by RJM:

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Due diligence before hand will help a parent find the program that will develop a kid and prepare him for the next level.

We did our due diligence when we moved into the area. We looked for homes in the top rated academic school districts. Everything else was gravy. My kids managed to maneuver through any obstacles and excel on the sporting side.

Their school coaches abilities ranged from excellent to questionable. My kids thrived in every one of the circumstances. One time my son got really screwed I asked him, "What is your solution to the problem?" rather than make excuses and find a clearer path for him.

+1, or THIS, or whatever it is to show total agreement for this post.

We did the same thing. We live where my wife and I would be comfortable with our kids going to school. And actually, we did it long before then as my wife got a teaching gig at the elementary school. So, when our son hit 8th grade, we didnt have to do any "due diligence" on finding the right high school for my son's baseball talents. Now that my daughter is a freshmen, it's probably a good thing we didnt pick a school for baseball. She sucks at baseball.

Colt McCoy's dad, a high school coach here in Texas, came and spoke at my church and said something that struck a nerve with me. His advice for fathers was:

"Prepare your child for the path, not the path for your child."

Was that the same dad who was on the sideline telling the Texas coaches his son would not go back in the game against Alabama, cause he had a pro future?

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Originally posted by GapFinder:
Colt McCoy's dad, a high school coach here in Texas, came and spoke at my church and said something that struck a nerve with me. His advice for fathers was:

"Prepare your child for the path, not the path for your child."

Was that the same dad who was on the sideline telling the Texas coaches his son would not go back in the game against Alabama, cause he had a pro future?

Here is another article illustrating his hypocrisy
McCoy's Dad on Browns

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Originally posted by cabbagedad:

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:
As I start my due diligence this year and next scoping out high school baseball programs ... The advantage parents who desire to understand baseball mechanics have today are the multitude of youtube videos and books by the professionals that illustrate proper...

Just because you are a high school baseball coach doesn't mean you know anything about how to play the game.

Yeah TOTALLY, I can see where a parent searching through youtube videos would be way better than trusting a HS baseball coach.

Do you have any idea how many different "expert" hitting philosophies are floating around the internet? Of course if there's actually a youtube video, I'm sure that makes it legit.

My son gets private lessons from Ted Williams. Just read his book "Science of Hitting". If a coach can't understand basic concepts of hitting I won't let him screw up my son!

This thread would make a much better movie than money ball was ... YouTube coaching? If you have to look at you tube to tell if your coach can coach then you can't tell... I don't know anything about building bridges, no you tube is going to change that.

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Originally posted by Mizzoubaseball:

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:
As I start my due diligence this year and next scoping out high school baseball programs in preparation for my son's entrance into high school I will look at how the coaching staff teaches the kids.
The advantage parents who desire to understand baseball mechanics have today are the multitude of youtube videos and books by the professionals that illustrate proper fundementals of batting and pitching.
One poster in another forum said his son's high school coaches were taking video of each kid batting and then making the same undeducated comments to each kid on how to "fix" the swing.
Just because you are a high school baseball coach doesn't mean you know anything about how to play the game.
Due diligence before hand will help a parent find the program that will develop a kid and prepare him for the next level.
I already know for certain where I will not send my son to play high school baseball in our area.
Right now I am fortunate to have a travel ball coach with 15 yrs experience who understands the game more than most small town high school baseball coaches.

I bet all the coaches are just hoping that you pick them. The winner gets the son of the crazy dude sitting behind the backstop at practice. They probably see you there and text their buddies that it's their lucky day.

Where do these people come from.......

I call it the lotto! I will probably sell raffle tickets to all coaches within a 100 mile radius that make the grade so as to make money on the side and at minimum demand a fully stocked and paid apartment so my son won't have to travel very far to school.
In fact I'm already soliciting interests from MLB clubs so that the bidding war can begin early.

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Originally posted by GapFinder:
Was that the same dad who was on the sideline telling the Texas coaches his son would not go back in the game against Alabama, cause he had a pro future?

Haha, no. That definitely didn't happen. Completely fabricated.

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:

Here is another article illustrating his hypocrisy
McCoy's Dad on Browns

Yup, he pointed out something that happened to his son so egregious the NFL is implemented immediate rules changes because of it.

Obviously that shows he is a hypocrite and an overbearing father.

Good luck shopping your son. And realize that no HS coach can "screw up" your son if he isn't already in the right path. But I'm sure you'll figure that out with YouTube.

Where in East Texas again?

Well said - thank you

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Originally posted by ironhorse:

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:

Here is another article illustrating his hypocrisy
McCoy's Dad on Browns

Yup, he pointed out something that happened to his son so egregious the NFL is implemented immediate rules changes because of it.

Obviously that shows he is a hypocrite and an overbearing father.

Good luck shopping your son. And realize that no HS coach can "screw up" your son if he isn't already in the right path. But I'm sure you'll figure that out with YouTube.

Where in East Texas again?

Don't shoot the messenger.
I agree with Colt's father just wonder if he is taking his own advice.
This is an interesting article about Brad McCoy NFL Parenting skills

I don't have too much to add to all of this but do have a problem with the comments about watching practice.

If the coach allows it, there is nothing wrong with watching practice. As a matter of fact, my son's HS coach strongly encourages every parent to come and watch their son's practice. For one, they will know full well why their son is or is not playing. For another, it gives us a chance to see and understand what is expected for the team to do in the games. This makes the games more enjoyable as we understand better when good plays happen as well as when the not so good ones happen.

Our coach makes it very clear that we are welcome to "watch" but it is his team and his rules. They get their butts chewed no matter who is watching and we, the parents, all know this.

I spent the better part of four years watching my son's HS practices with a good number of other parents and wouldn't have traded the opputunity for anything. When I was the parent of a freshman, it was very helpful to have the guidence and advise of the parents of the juniors and seniors. If you think this site is great because of all the experienced people who have been there and done that, we have the same thing in a smaller way with our team. I think the coach allowing and encouraging us to be there has help greatly.

Also, it is a great way for all the parents to get to know each other and we have/had a good time hanging out. While this is a rare situation and may not be the case with the OP, to make blanket statments that watching you son's practices is wrong really bothers me.

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Originally posted by ironhorse:

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Originally posted by dolphindan1:

Thanks....sarcasm is pretty subtle....but to respond to ur statement.....u are right i will make **** sure its the best choice for my son....cause the choice he was given by the school district sucks

Colt McCoy's dad, a high school coach here in Texas, came and spoke at my church and said something that struck a nerve with me. His advice for fathers was:

"Prepare your child for the path, not the path for your child."

Kinda seems to me like it addresses one of the main reasons this country is heading off course.

So basically you are saying I need to find a head coaching job as baseball coach and just coach my on son?...Shouldnt have turned that job down last summer...Yeah Colts dad had his path prepared for him...

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Due diligence before hand will help a parent find the program that will develop a kid and prepare him for the next level.

I did mine before my kids were born by settling in a good neighborhood with a top school system. Sports are secondary, which is something over-the-top parents seem to forget. Relying on a school system solely because of a baseball coach is extremely shortsighted instead of looking for a school for the reasons schools exists..An education. As for sports or any after school activity, those were optional to my kids assuming they maintained their grades and earned the privledge to participate in after school sports/activities.

Even though we live in a top school district where they have a very good education system and ok sports programs, the baseball program had a lot to be desired but it never detered my kid from it. He just kept plugging thru the program where many players quit and he got his shot because his talent could no longer go ignored. Only he dealt with it and didn't run to mom and dad.

As for practices go, the last place my son or any of the players wanted parent was hanging around the field watching them. My son told me not to come to his practices until about 15 minutes before to pick him up until he got his license when he could take himself to and from school. Practice was their time, not the parents. It was their time to focus on working on their baseball skills, not parents hovering around to see who's kid getting the star treatment or getting the shaft. I dunno. Maybe I still have a little old school in me. Not competely but I knew where to let my kids breathe.

Colt McCoy's dad? LOL..He's the poster boy for helicopter parenting.

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Originally posted by Mizzoubaseball:

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:
As I start my due diligence this year and next scoping out high school baseball programs in preparation for my son's entrance into high school I will look at how the coaching staff teaches the kids.
The advantage parents who desire to understand baseball mechanics have today are the multitude of youtube videos and books by the professionals that illustrate proper fundementals of batting and pitching.
One poster in another forum said his son's high school coaches were taking video of each kid batting and then making the same undeducated comments to each kid on how to "fix" the swing.
Just because you are a high school baseball coach doesn't mean you know anything about how to play the game.
Due diligence before hand will help a parent find the program that will develop a kid and prepare him for the next level.
I already know for certain where I will not send my son to play high school baseball in our area.
Right now I am fortunate to have a travel ball coach with 15 yrs experience who understands the game more than most small town high school baseball coaches.

I bet all the coaches are just hoping that you pick them. The winner gets the son of the crazy dude sitting behind the backstop at practice. They probably see you there and text their buddies that it's their lucky day.

Where do these people come from.......

Trad is funny, he's gonna do his due diligence looking for the right HS coach who teaches good mechanics but would allow his kid to pitch on consecutive days in a tournament?

You are right, where do these folks come from?

What if my kid closes out a game and only pitches 20 pitches. Should he be able to pitch the next day O Wise One? If so what should be his pitch count?

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Originally posted by tradosaurus:
What if my kid closes out a game and only pitches 20 pitches. Should he be able to pitch the next day O Wise One? If so what should be his pitch count?

Your first question asked was 50 pitches on one day and 50 on another, now it's changed.
You seem to know so much why not do your own research. If you need to ask me, that means you have been negligent in your research if you want your son to play past HS.
Ask, what if he threw 20 pitches in one inning, the weather, what type of pitches, that should be a consideration, and YOU as the parent should be armed with that knowledge, after all you have told us that you do know who your son would not play for in HS, but IMO, travel coaches probably add just as much harm to youth pitchers as any HS coach.