Is HSBBW moving to CBBW?

I would think that it's partly because it's September...and most of the country doesn't play HS baseball (other than fall ball....which is generally pretty awful).  This is prime time for kids looking to move into college ball to be working on doing whatever they need to do to accomplish that.....which seems to be what most of the threads have been about since the summer travel season shut down.  I don't have a problem with it....baseball is baseball.  As long as there's somewhere to discuss it, I don't care if you talk about Little League, HS or college.....lol

Stats,
Things have changed. Boys these days begin playing  more competitive baseball very early.  Things have changed in other youth sports as well.
Goals have changed as well. I do believe most people who find their way here already have players who ha e made their HS team. The way I see it, making the HS team is a lot easier than making a college roster. Parents want help in the process. With the high cost of college these days people need help to pay for education. I get lots of pms asking opinions on schools and programs. I also get LOTS of inquiries about the draft, advisors/agents, etc.
I came here looking for info on recruiting. I believe that is true for most who come as well.
When you first came here you manipulated lots of discussion to turn to high school stats. You created lots of arguments by posting and then challenging opinions. Basically the same thing that you do now.
When you came back here they created a forum for you to post in for stats and scorekeeping. I notice that you rarely post there.

My suggestion to you is if you are unhappy here, then leave. There must be other sites where you can discuss HSBB and stats!

Stats, you do have a point. But it's not so much HSBB vs. CBB as it is HSBB vs. moving to the next level.  I wouldn't hazard a guess on the percentage, but a good-sized majority of the discussion here is on the process of trying to transition from playing in HS to playing in college or the pros.  

 

I think the main reason for that is that this process presents an nearly endless list of topics to discuss, from various schools, to various camps and showcases,  to recruiting strategies, recruiting worries, recruiting rules, etc.  Most of these topics have an interest among a broad number of people trying to help their kids move to the next level.  Conversely, discussion about HSBB itself tends to have specific, narrow interest because it's a local sport.  For example, I have a sophomore who will be vying for a starting role on a NorCal varsity team this year.  Nobody here knows how good he is, or how stacked his team is, or how good the league is, or even how good the section is. So what's there to talk about?  "Good luck to your son, dad!"  That is about all there is to say. If he does great, or he does poorly, I can report back, but again, it's a short discussion that is interesting to very few.

 

Yeah, there are some other things to kick around - the efficacy of bunting, how to put together your most productive lineup, etc., and these are all good, but most are general baseball stuff and not specific to HS. Seems like the most heavily discussed purely HS topics occur when a newbie shows up to complain about his son's HS coach, which usually involves the kid getting cut nor not getting playing time, or when somebody posts about a HS team or player that did something that got them media play.

 

So I think that's the way it is and will continue to be.  But I do hear you.  I'm very invested in watching and supporting my kid's HS career, and since I'm not sure he'll even try to play at the next level, I agree -- I would love to see some more HSBB discussion.  

 

I would also love to see some more HSBB.  I'll disagree with  Buckeye:  Fallball games  start  up in a couple weeks here,  and I look forward to good games, and I'm looking forward in particular to seeing my kid hit against  5 pitchers, maybe more, with deals at D1 schools, as well as a bunch of other varsity starters. The competition for spring playing time is about to begin.   Should be fun.

I just looked thru the first page of general items topics. From what I can tell, 10 of the 25 topics related to HSBB/recruiting. 5 were specific to college, 7 were general baseball topics and 3 were related to pros. Being that this is a slow time for HS baseball, that's not a bad breakdown. I think the High School part of HSBBW still lives.

Some places have fall HS ball, some don't. Our area never has had fall baseball.

Stats,

 

It is just are a reflection of who is using the site. There used to be these raging threads in the hitting forum that would go on and on and on arguing over hitting minutia, rotational, linear, bla bla bla.  and they just don't happen much anymore. There were also same thing in the pitching forum, Marshall vs you name the pitching guru, and again not so much now...and of course TRHit who could insight a baseball riot. (who I miss a lot)

 

There are a number of us who's kids have gone through or are going through the college phase, and we stick around as a resource to help others who are doing what we did 3-5 years ago. Frankly there are other sites that have most of the "college baseball discussions", here it tends to be about the process. Some of these sites are a complete mess now, at least the Rivals site is, and others like D3baseball are excellent, but they have most of the college baseball specific discussions. 

 

Now is the later stage of the recruiting process with NLI's coming up so I would disagree Buckeye at least when my son was going through the process was the peak of his decision activity with applications, meeting with coaches, etc, etc.  

 

There have been some real doosey's (no such English word) that I really miss. The guy who wanted to know the best place to move to in the country where he could build a baseball field next to his house and had an airport for his private jet was my favorite of all time....Wonder where he ended up and the mental hospital his son is in?

It is a word ...

 

doo·zy

 noun \ˈdü-zē

I am not sure why anyone has to justify to stats why this site isnt to his liking. 
This is not the first time he had complained. This is his way of getting attention.
Once again if you dont like it.....

Place is fine for me.  Baseball is baseball. 

For me this site is exactly what I came to it for. My son wants to play college baseball. I want to know the do's and don'ts so I don't screw up too much of his journey. I want to know what I should or shouldn't be doing and what he should or shouldn't be doing while playing HS baseball. Sites perfect. I've recommended it to all the parents on my sons travel team and everyone that has been to have thanked me over and over.

I played college football. Their recruiting is easy. Baseball has Wayyyyy to much confusion about recruiting. This site provides a great road map for that and I for one am very thankful for that.

TPM,  You seem to be reacting rather harshly....the guy made a point.  I guess if YOU don't like what he has to say, YOU don't have to read the post or come on here to reply.  You know, if you don't have anything nice to say.......

 

I don't typically agree with Stats on a lot of things, but I agree that it has changed a lot.  Now, before you jump all over ME, please note, I'm not bit**ing about it, I'm making a point:  the site HAS changed.

 

No one says it has to stay the same as it was; it is organic, and like all "living" things, it changes, evolves, metamorphasizes.  But I think we should be allowed to discuss that it HAS, in fact, changed.

 

Now, to offer my opinion (which, TPM, I believe I'm entitled to):  I am bored?irritated?piqued?wistful? over the fact that a site that dealt with HIGH SCHOOL baseball has morphed into more of a college and select baseball entity.  As a high school coach, I was very interested in getting on here to hear what parents thought, to discuss matters with them and with other coaches, and to hopefully increase the love and participation in high school baseball.  I just think a lot of that has gone away.....now the majority of topics about high school baseball are about how horrible and stupid the coaches are, how it can be avoided in favor of select baseball, and why it is a dying entity.

 

And if I get to the point where "I don't like it......" enough, I will move on and try to find somewhere else that really is about High School baseball.  I just don't know that there is anything else  out there right now that I like any better.

 

To Stats point:  why not call this "High School and College Baseball website"?  It IS a more accurate description.  Not telling the originators what to do at all, but it wouldn't deter me if they did....

In my opinion what makes this site so great are the parents who were years ahead of us, and had already experienced what we were going through, taking their time to advise those of us who were trying to figure it all out.  Thankfully there have been posters like Fenway, TPM, Cabbagedad, JH, BOF, RJM, Bobbyaguho and others that have helped us to navigate from HS to college baseball.  If a thread is not of interest (i.e. about college baseball) everybody is free to skip it; I fail to see the problem.

 

 

One of the most popular topics that HS parents bring up here... College Baseball Recruiting!  In fact, it seems most questions involve recruiting.  That makes it kind of hard to ignore college baseball when HS players and parents want to know more about it.

 

Same thing to a lesser degree regarding professional baseball.  Also, seems like there are more youth level parents on here than ever before.  Lots of questions about "making the HS team" 

 

Much of HS baseball is the before and after.  Especially the after!  This site wouldn't be what it is if college baseball was ignored.  The ways I look at The HSBBW is it's about the kids that play the game and their parents. IMO this is the very best website on earth serving that purpose.

TCB1,
Since you and I have joined, it has changed.
Thank goodness!
Once again, if  he doesnt like it, dont let the door hit him in the you know what on the way out!

well said!

I've only been on this site for about a month and I have ZERO complaints.  My kid is only 12 but I have learned so much from current posts and past posts.  This baseball world is complicated, the average person isn't even aware that there are such things as showcases and PG grades, heck I hadn't even heard of PG until this site! 

 

*No offense PG staff, it just doesn't come up at 12u!*

 

This site has opened a whole new world to me and allowed me to form a plan.  I am grateful to read what any knowledgeable person wants to say, whether it be about HS, JUCO, College, MiLB, MLB :-)  Thank you all!

Newbie checkin in here. Great boards, great resources...as with any forum you separate the wheat from the chaff but i've read more positive posts than negative or provocative posts from folks trying to start a forum war. Posts that dont interest me, dont get read.

 

Our HS doesn't mandate or play fall ball and most of our players are on travel teams. I would openly share any experience we have had with the recruiting process, offers, visits and the time after the offer when you aren't sure what to do in respect to other schools etc.  I "think" any parent who's kid is good enough to play varsity ball, is playing travel at a good level and loves baseball will more than likely have questions about the next step, Lord knows...there is NO handbook on college baseball recruiting. 

Stats - I kind of disagree with your premise.  This site could be called the CBBW imho and nobody should be upset if we changed it to that designation.  It would be misleading in the sense in that if it were named for college, people looking for how to get to the next level (from high school) just might miss it. 

 

The purpose of the site is providing information so that high school players can go on and play at the next level.  That's what everyone here cares about.  I doubt anyone cares about hs fall baseball, frankly but you are free to start that topic if you like.  In the spring, we do run a high school spring thread so we are balanced in that respect.  The reason we have the college fall thread is because that is the first time, after all the years of showcasing and recruiting, a kid gets to play against ALL college players for the first time.  That is quite the achievement and it provides motivation for those kids striving to do exactly the same.  Our site is unique and I hope it stays roughly the same.    

I found this board accidentally. It was good timing. My son was fourteen at the time. To me this board is about college baseball. The primary focus is about getting there. Here's what's listed in the "about" section of this board ...

 

What will you find here?

• Articles about college baseball recruiting, scholarships, and the MLB draft
• Interviews with college coaches and pro scouts  
• Recruiting "how to"  
• Links to other baseball resources, camps and showcases  
• A "world famous" message board community  

If these bullets are the main focus of the board how can it be without a lot of discussion of college ball. For a handful of more talented kids the discussion needs to be on turning pro out of high school. To me, this board is about "getting to the next level," not high school. The high school aspect of the discussion is about what to do in high school on and off the field to get to the next level. Any discussions on college and pro ball are relevant. They explain what the player is getting himself into. Some kids think they want to play college ball. But they have no idea how different it is from high school ball. 

 

A person doesn't have to read every discussion thread. Some may not be interesting to a certain person. Some may lose their appeal over time. I've found I might make ten posts in a day and then not make one for several days. It's based on the content. I can't imagine anyone complaining about what the discussions are unless they need to log off and get a life.

 

In defense of TPM I've crossed paths with Scorekeeper/StatsGnats for thirteen years on discussion boards. I understand exactly where she's coming from. 

I have one in LL, HS and College now.  I like the site just the way it is.  All the subjects cross over and bleed into each other and they all server a purpose.  It is all related to HS ball in a sense. whether it is getting onto a HS team, or moving on from a HS team.

Keep rockin the HSBBW logo!