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quote:Originally posted by ro1249:
Did he tryout last year as a Freshman?
Yes, he made the freshman team for spring last year. He played JV team for summer and fall without tryout. He is a great kid with no "me first attitude" that I have to worry. One of the Daddy coach in the fall made a commend that my son threw strikes very well. Meanwhile, his son threw a lot of dead balls and hurt so many kids with his 80 fastball. That player made the JV team this year.
Dadddyboy
A sophomore throwing 80 is worth keeping on the JV team for development.quote:Originally posted by daddyboy:quote:Originally posted by ro1249:
Did he tryout last year as a Freshman?
Yes, he made the freshman team for spring last year. He played JV team for summer and fall without tryout. He is a great kid with no "me first attitude" that I have to worry. One of the Daddy coach in the fall made a commend that my son threw strikes very well. Meanwhile, his son threw a lot of dead balls and hurt so many kids with his 80 fastball. That player made the JV team this year.
Dadddyboy
DB,
Tell your son to go ask the coach if he can be a manager on the team and help out and throw.
Get your son on a strong throwing and conditioning program.
Have hm go play bseball this summer and next fall.
Best of luck.
Tell your son to go ask the coach if he can be a manager on the team and help out and throw.
Get your son on a strong throwing and conditioning program.
Have hm go play bseball this summer and next fall.
Best of luck.
Daddyboy, for starters I am always surprised when a high school coach cuts any lefty.
When asked you mentioned your son throws maybe 70. I'm thinking therein lies the problem. He's a pitcher, right? What is his strongest tool? His arm!
Get him on a good Summer team, get him a great pitching coach this year, and no matter what get on a year-round long-tossing program! Do a google of Alan Jaeger's program. Do cardio 4-5x week, throw 5-6x week, plyometrics, weights, and next year when he's throwing 7-8 M.P.H. harder he will be hard to deny!
When asked you mentioned your son throws maybe 70. I'm thinking therein lies the problem. He's a pitcher, right? What is his strongest tool? His arm!
Get him on a good Summer team, get him a great pitching coach this year, and no matter what get on a year-round long-tossing program! Do a google of Alan Jaeger's program. Do cardio 4-5x week, throw 5-6x week, plyometrics, weights, and next year when he's throwing 7-8 M.P.H. harder he will be hard to deny!
Geez, where oh where to begin....
You have many "types" of coaches. Unfortunately, there are some that have let "power" go to their head and really can't be bothered with helping your son along. These types "don't have time" to help your son/daughter improve and they view their "job" at try-outs as that of finding a flaw instead of finding potential.
These types see an open stance and dismiss the kid as "he's stepping out" whereas the kid might have just come off five straight tournaments hitting .500 or better.
These types will stroll onto the field or third base coaches box with a stop watch in hand to "time the catcher's throws down to second" without realizing their arrogance. Of course, the Almighty God gave them the ability to see exactly when the ball hits the mitt and exactly when it is caught at second so they can time the throws "fairly". Despite all the stopwatches their team's catchers have rock-hard hands and lose more runners on dropped balls... but, hey, he's got him "timed."
In 27 years we've seen it all.
What stinks is the favoritism shown someone with "connections". The kid that makes the team even though he "injured" his arm throwing the ball in try-outs because he could not reach the infield from the outfield and is retained. The out-of-shape kid that never came to a pre-try outs conditioning practice because he has a "personal trainer" and is retained. The kid whom has never pitched or played catcher in his life but is retained over a talented pitcher or catcher.
It is the coach's kingdom. Do not dare question their wisdom.
The best advice has been given. Use it as motivation. Jordan has said that every time he wanted to quit he closed his eyes and "saw" the list on the coach's door without his name on it.
Not all our kids are a "Jordan" but if you truly believe and work very hard... someone, somewhere will make a spot on a roster for your kid.
You have many "types" of coaches. Unfortunately, there are some that have let "power" go to their head and really can't be bothered with helping your son along. These types "don't have time" to help your son/daughter improve and they view their "job" at try-outs as that of finding a flaw instead of finding potential.
These types see an open stance and dismiss the kid as "he's stepping out" whereas the kid might have just come off five straight tournaments hitting .500 or better.
These types will stroll onto the field or third base coaches box with a stop watch in hand to "time the catcher's throws down to second" without realizing their arrogance. Of course, the Almighty God gave them the ability to see exactly when the ball hits the mitt and exactly when it is caught at second so they can time the throws "fairly". Despite all the stopwatches their team's catchers have rock-hard hands and lose more runners on dropped balls... but, hey, he's got him "timed."
In 27 years we've seen it all.
What stinks is the favoritism shown someone with "connections". The kid that makes the team even though he "injured" his arm throwing the ball in try-outs because he could not reach the infield from the outfield and is retained. The out-of-shape kid that never came to a pre-try outs conditioning practice because he has a "personal trainer" and is retained. The kid whom has never pitched or played catcher in his life but is retained over a talented pitcher or catcher.
It is the coach's kingdom. Do not dare question their wisdom.
The best advice has been given. Use it as motivation. Jordan has said that every time he wanted to quit he closed his eyes and "saw" the list on the coach's door without his name on it.
Not all our kids are a "Jordan" but if you truly believe and work very hard... someone, somewhere will make a spot on a roster for your kid.
Some added thoughts
Just because your are a LHP does not assure a player of a spot on the roster---you have to have talent
Secondly may times players do not get selected because they do not fit into the playing scheme of the coach ie---speed; thunder bats. Does the coach play small ball with speed or does he want thunder all around ?---Stop and think about it folks a lot goes into a team make up
Just because your are a LHP does not assure a player of a spot on the roster---you have to have talent
Secondly may times players do not get selected because they do not fit into the playing scheme of the coach ie---speed; thunder bats. Does the coach play small ball with speed or does he want thunder all around ?---Stop and think about it folks a lot goes into a team make up
quote:Originally posted by Bum:
Daddyboy, for starters I am always surprised when a high school coach cuts any lefty.
When asked you mentioned your son throws maybe 70. I'm thinking therein lies the problem. He's a pitcher, right? What is his strongest tool? His arm!
Get him on a good Summer team, get him a great pitching coach this year, and no matter what get on a year-round long-tossing program! Do a google of Alan Jaeger's program. Do cardio 4-5x week, throw 5-6x week, plyometrics, weights, and next year when he's throwing 7-8 M.P.H. harder he will be hard to deny!
I am surprised too. My family are very upset that I am not allow talk to my son about baseball until he is feeling better.
I need to work with him a long-tossing program/schedule, speeding and weights training, a good summer baseball team and a great pitching coach. His pitching coach is coaching the Europe team with a special invited person.
Currently, We do not have enough income to support his baseball lessons due to my unemployment status. After working for a food company for 21 years, I received a layoff two years ago. I had been working a few contract jobs with no lucks in our area. I hope I will find a full time job soon to support his baseball activities.
We are still working a fund raising for his Europe baseball trip. He raises 1/3 of his funding goal so far. There are six months to go. We would like to go to that trip with him too if I find a better job. Our (other three family members) airlines and hotel nights are free from my traveling trips that I earned from that food company. We will have to spend our own money on car rental and food.
Daddyboy
There's only one way for your son to improve in baseball, it is a tactile activity...you got to play or his skills will not improve and his motivation will die.
You can practice until you're blue-in-the-face...but that doesn't replace game experience.
If you have to move to get to play, then that's is what must be done. It is better to play year round with weaker teams where you play a lot, then play on a team where you sit on a team with the big reputation.
IMHO transferring out of a situation that you know the deck is stacked against you where you know your chances of succeeding are minimal to another spot where you have a chance to win a spot to play alot...IMHO is not a cop out...its being smart.
JMO
You can practice until you're blue-in-the-face...but that doesn't replace game experience.
If you have to move to get to play, then that's is what must be done. It is better to play year round with weaker teams where you play a lot, then play on a team where you sit on a team with the big reputation.
IMHO transferring out of a situation that you know the deck is stacked against you where you know your chances of succeeding are minimal to another spot where you have a chance to win a spot to play alot...IMHO is not a cop out...its being smart.
JMO
Well, my son did not make the JV team again this year after working very hard on pitching and hitting last few months. I had two excellent trainers to give him the pitching and hitting lessons four times a week last month.
We thought that his was ready. I guess that he did not have a hitting opportunity. He had a walk with two stolen bases, one strike out and line hit to third base. He caught two popflys at first base and pitched very well.
He had a great time with his Europe baseball trip last year. He played well last summer and fall selected baseball teams. I hope that he will continue this summer select baseballs.
Daddboy
We thought that his was ready. I guess that he did not have a hitting opportunity. He had a walk with two stolen bases, one strike out and line hit to third base. He caught two popflys at first base and pitched very well.
He had a great time with his Europe baseball trip last year. He played well last summer and fall selected baseball teams. I hope that he will continue this summer select baseballs.
Daddboy
quote:Originally posted by daddyboy:
Well, my son did not make the JV team again this year after working very hard on pitching and hitting last few months. I had two excellent trainers to give him the pitching and hitting lessons four times a week last month.
Daddboy
All the trainers in the world don't guarentee a baseball player making the high school team. It takes some level of talent that can't be taught.
Here's an example.. My son, who never spent one minute of his baseball life with a personal trainer, was injured in the summer entering his senior year, missed the entire summer legion season, joined a woodbat fall league where they played a few games, didn't pick up a baseball again until the following February, gets a few scrimmage AB's and in his first start of the regular season, he opens up with two ropes for base hits off a first-team all-county pitcher who's signed to a D1 program winds up 3 for 4 in his first start of the year off this pitcher. What he had going for him was his ability as a hitter. He always could hit and was an above avarage outfielder with good speed. The pitching was his achilles heel. Had the arm, not the command or mound presence.
Point is that kid who made the team that throws 80, that's something the coach could work with on the JV's to make him a key contributer on the varsity level. To make varsity ball, size, strength speed and quickness mean a lot. Even though it's JV ball, these coaches have to narrow it down by what they see as potential to develop into varsity players.
It's commendable that he works hard and it may pay off down the road. For those who continue playing high school and beyond, they have to love the game and want to put in the work necessary to play at that level. At 70mph as a high school pitcher, he definitely will need to work hard at adding some mph so that the offspeed stuff works. 70 at the JV level is batting practice. My son did just enough in the off season conditioning program and baseball workouts to get in shape and baseball ready to be a contributor his junior and and an impact player his senior year. Had he worked on his pitching with a good instructor, he might've made varsity as a sophomore as a pitcher because he had the arm to pitch on that level but didn't have the command in part because of mechanics. Plus, the varsity squad, which was mostly seniors and a few juniors had enough outfielders and good bats so my son had to pay his dues and wait for his shot.
Did you find a job ?
I have to be honest. I have been shaking my head while reading this thread. You send your son on a European BB trip while you are unemployed. You hire trainers while you are unemployed. This is insane to me.
I have to be honest. I have been shaking my head while reading this thread. You send your son on a European BB trip while you are unemployed. You hire trainers while you are unemployed. This is insane to me.
quote:Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
Did you find a job ?
I have to be honest. I have been shaking my head while reading this thread. You send your son on a European BB trip while you are unemployed. You hire trainers while you are unemployed. This is insane to me.
Thank you for your concern. I found a full job before the trip. Currently, I have three jobs (one full time and two part times). My wife works too.
His trip had been paid for by fund raising from my family and friends. That fund paid for his summer select team fee too.
Since I had a lot of American Airlines mile from my old job, my whole family went to see his games. I paid the family expenses.
Daddyboy
For all the players/parents who are currently going through tryouts or just got cut, below is the link to an outstanding thread on the Texas Forum in which a high school coach explains the tryout/cut process (make sure to read pages 1 and 2):
http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7106002781/m/7971047613/p/1
http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7106002781/m/7971047613/p/1
Find a new pitching instructor. Preferably somebody who is busy to give you an honest assement of your sons potential as a pitcher. Quite possibly the time spent in the cages might prove to be more beneficial then the time and money wasted on pitching lessons.
How hard is your son throwing this year? Also, playing travel doesn't guarantee a thing. There's lots of mediocrity in travel ball. Why did your son go to Europe to play baseball? The competition is weak. The teams that go there from the US are more pay-to-play than an earned travel roster spot. If you said your son made a team going to play in the Carribean I'd be impressed. Good players want to go where there are other good players.
quote:Originally posted by funneldrill:
So, this morning we handed out letters that were sealed in envelopes to every kid that came to tryouts. I am not a "post a list" guy. First off, that is a violation of a students privacy and is against the FERPA Regualations! At the schools I've been at in the past, I've met face to face, one on one, with every kid. Here, there are too many kids to do that with so I did the letters.
Infield08, I have been reading funneldrill post since last week. I am from Texas and will not post any there. I still hope that my son did not give up baseball. I would like the trainers to have a talk with him.
I wish the coaches are not "post a list" guys which my son got last two years.
Daddyboy
quote:Originally posted by RJM:
How hard is your son throwing this year? Also, playing travel doesn't guarantee a thing. There's lots of mediocrity in travel ball. Why did your son go to Europe to play baseball? The competition is weak. The teams that go there from the US are more pay-to-play than an earned travel roster spot. If you said your son made a team going to play in the Carribean I'd be impressed. Good players want to go where there are other good players.
He is throwing upper 70 to low 80. His former pitching trainer invited him, his classmates and his HS head coach to the trip. Since UIL rules, the coach got a free trip did not do anythings.
Daddyboy
Don't you think everyone who cares finds out either way? To me the only purpose of face to face is telling the player where he needs to improve.quote:I wish the coaches are not "post a list" guys which my son got last two years.
I hope he has a face to face meeting today and telling him where he needs to improve.
Thanks,
Daddyboy
Thanks,
Daddyboy
I'm a meet face to face guy and always think this is right but if I was in funneldrill's position with so many kids I believe he did it the best way possible. RJM is right - if the kid wants it he will ask the coach what he needs to do. The problem is most kids take the easy way out and just give up. Sometimes giving up is the best solution possible but those almost made it kids are the ones who need to keep working. If they really want it they will ask the coach but if they don't then their interests will turn elsewhere.
Daddyboy as for your situation I'm sorry your son didn't make it again this year. Without seeing your son play and knowing how good the team is where he goes to school I can't say if he has a chance or not. If he wants it he has to keep working on it.
Daddyboy as for your situation I'm sorry your son didn't make it again this year. Without seeing your son play and knowing how good the team is where he goes to school I can't say if he has a chance or not. If he wants it he has to keep working on it.
What's much more difficult for a parent is for your son to make it all the way to college ball, make the team and then a player gets cut for being late to a team meeting, or even worse, makes it to the point of first game uni and night before game gets cut.
In each case our son was empathetic and knew each one of these players as personal friends. One player he played on the same high school team. But he knows it could happen to anyone of them. That's why your player must not take anything for granted.
Whether it be in the classroom or on the field the purpose of the activity is to out hustle and outdo anyone on the team that is trying out for your position. Never let a coach think that he can win without you in his lineup. Just my opinion.
In each case our son was empathetic and knew each one of these players as personal friends. One player he played on the same high school team. But he knows it could happen to anyone of them. That's why your player must not take anything for granted.
Whether it be in the classroom or on the field the purpose of the activity is to out hustle and outdo anyone on the team that is trying out for your position. Never let a coach think that he can win without you in his lineup. Just my opinion.
quote:Originally posted by coach2709:
I'm a meet face to face guy and always think this is right but if I was in funneldrill's position with so many kids I believe he did it the best way possible. RJM is right - if the kid wants it he will ask the coach what he needs to do. The problem is most kids take the easy way out and just give up. Sometimes giving up is the best solution possible but those almost made it kids are the ones who need to keep working. If they really want it they will ask the coach but if they don't then their interests will turn elsewhere.
Daddyboy as for your situation I'm sorry your son didn't make it again this year. Without seeing your son play and knowing how good the team is where he goes to school I can't say if he has a chance or not. If he wants it he has to keep working on it.
I just talked to him. He is giving up. The coach did not provide any advice to him. We are one of the top five to eight rated baseball team in Texas this year.
Daddyboy,
Is he giving up on HS ball or baseball altogether?
We can all feel for you for it will eventually happen to all of us at some level of ball. Hopefully your boy will take the time to rethink his decision and maybe pick it back up in a month or two to play summer ball.
Good luck
Is he giving up on HS ball or baseball altogether?
We can all feel for you for it will eventually happen to all of us at some level of ball. Hopefully your boy will take the time to rethink his decision and maybe pick it back up in a month or two to play summer ball.
Good luck
"Posted February 05, 2008: He is 5' and 10" tall and weight about 155 lbs."
How big is he a year later?
How big is he a year later?
quote:Originally posted by tigercub:
Daddyboy,
Is he giving up on HS ball or baseball altogether?
We can all feel for you for it will eventually happen to all of us at some level of ball. Hopefully your boy will take the time to rethink his decision and maybe pick it back up in a month or two to play summer ball.
Good luck
He is giving baseball altogether. He is still committed to a selected baseball and I will tell that coach later. He gains extra 10 lbs.
So he's now 5'10", 165? Since the conversation last year was about JV ball, I'll assume your son is a junior this year. I'm guessing the coach didn't see a kid that's physically developing, throwing harder and hitting spots. Since you mentioned the program is a ranked team I can see this happening.quote:Originally posted by daddyboy:quote:Originally posted by tigercub:
Daddyboy,
Is he giving up on HS ball or baseball altogether?
We can all feel for you for it will eventually happen to all of us at some level of ball. Hopefully your boy will take the time to rethink his decision and maybe pick it back up in a month or two to play summer ball.
Good luck
He is giving baseball altogether. He is still committed to a selected baseball and I will tell that coach later. He gains extra 10 lbs.
Maybe you should give your son a chance to bounce back before calling the travel team coach. He might change his mind in a few days. It sounds to me like he still has a lot of room to grow, and a lot can still happen. Just his bad luck to be at a huge high school with a lot of bigger kids. Our local hs would have taken him in a heart beat.
LHPMom
LHPMom
Its hard to take but sometimes it just happens we just had tryouts at my school i made it, but i saw a couple really good players get cut. Make sure he goes out next year!!
Daddyboy
Your first post was in 2008, your son, I presume was a soph and was throwing in the low 70's. A year later, he was throwing in the low 80's. Did not make the cut on a top rated Texas HS team in either year. A low 80's velo LHP with a couple of off speed pitches in most parts of the country would make the J.V team if not the Varsity.
Some had sugggested transferring to another school, others disagreed. I am not certain if that was an option for the family. Looking back, what are your thoughts about transferring to another program ? would you stick it out like you did? or try another school? Probably quite a few families are experinencing, or about to experience what has happen within your family.
I think your boy has shown good progress in the past year, If he likes the game and more importantly the process he's not that far away.
Success is the best revenge!
Your first post was in 2008, your son, I presume was a soph and was throwing in the low 70's. A year later, he was throwing in the low 80's. Did not make the cut on a top rated Texas HS team in either year. A low 80's velo LHP with a couple of off speed pitches in most parts of the country would make the J.V team if not the Varsity.
Some had sugggested transferring to another school, others disagreed. I am not certain if that was an option for the family. Looking back, what are your thoughts about transferring to another program ? would you stick it out like you did? or try another school? Probably quite a few families are experinencing, or about to experience what has happen within your family.
I think your boy has shown good progress in the past year, If he likes the game and more importantly the process he's not that far away.
Success is the best revenge!
I just got back from my third shift full time job. I will try to answer all the posts since my last one before I go to bed.
He may be 5'11" now , weight 165lbs. Yes, my son is a junior this year. He is throwing harder than last year and hitting the right spots according the pitching trainer. He throws fast balls, change up and curve balls. The school is 5A school and is a ranked top 10 teams in Texas.
I am thinking the same thing I will wait about before calling the travel team coach. I am very sure that he should have no problem with smaller school.
We have UIL rules in Texas that the kids have a wait a year off after transferring to another school. There is not an option for the family transferring to another school. I had asked his hitting trainer to give him a call.
I am wishing he is changing his mind next few weeks.
Thanks,
Daddyboy
He may be 5'11" now , weight 165lbs. Yes, my son is a junior this year. He is throwing harder than last year and hitting the right spots according the pitching trainer. He throws fast balls, change up and curve balls. The school is 5A school and is a ranked top 10 teams in Texas.
I am thinking the same thing I will wait about before calling the travel team coach. I am very sure that he should have no problem with smaller school.
We have UIL rules in Texas that the kids have a wait a year off after transferring to another school. There is not an option for the family transferring to another school. I had asked his hitting trainer to give him a call.
I am wishing he is changing his mind next few weeks.
Thanks,
Daddyboy
If he's giving up baseball altogether, then maybe he realizes it's his time. Players have a good idea at the high school level where their place is among the talent in their area. Then there are others that have some idea of the committment it takes to play beyond HS and they work it out and decide whether it's worth it or not. Once they start having to be talked into it and or they're not that motivated or driven to play, it's no longer a game and they're miserable doing it.
Stepping away from the game isn't the worst thing in the world. Especially if you're shelling out big bucks for select teams and the player isn't as committed to the game as you want him to be.
Stepping away from the game isn't the worst thing in the world. Especially if you're shelling out big bucks for select teams and the player isn't as committed to the game as you want him to be.
Three things hit me here:
01-- going overseas to play is great but it gives you minimal exposure--
02-- why are you paying a trainer and getting no results?
03-- hate to be cruel but perhaps your son,who loves the game, may not have the talent to go beyond where he is now
01-- going overseas to play is great but it gives you minimal exposure--
02-- why are you paying a trainer and getting no results?
03-- hate to be cruel but perhaps your son,who loves the game, may not have the talent to go beyond where he is now
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Three things hit me here:
01-- going overseas to play is great but it gives you minimal exposure--
02-- why are you paying a trainer and getting no results?
03-- hate to be cruel but perhaps your son,who loves the game, may not have the talent to go beyond where he is now
TRhit
I don't know about those second two points when looking over all the old posts. If accurate statements by the dad, the boy has gone from low 70's to low 80's since the post of last year and is hitting his spots. That would seem to me that the trainer is getting results. As far as talent, most high schools in our neck of the woods would have room on their roster for a lefty who throws low 80's and hits his spots. I think a lot of D3 colleges would have room for someone like that...and by the time college comes around he may be throwing mid 80's. It may be more of a case of being at one of the top programs in the state and the coach just has better options.
casey
The point is this: even with the trainer/coach he is still getting cut
The point is this: even with the trainer/coach he is still getting cut
Sometimes gettin cut is motivation enough to work harder and get better in the off season. If you cannot afford the Europe trip I wouldn't do it, times are tough these days and maybe playing select ball in the summer or focusing on playing on the H.S. Baseball team will better his chances on making the cut next year. Prove everyone wrong and work harder. A Long toss program and working on the mound isn't out of the question.
My son hasn't been on that side of the fence but he had a good friend who was cut and worked his butt off to be on team the following year. Show the coach that you want to work on getting better and outwork the next in the gym and on the field.
Good luck and keep your chin up!
My son hasn't been on that side of the fence but he had a good friend who was cut and worked his butt off to be on team the following year. Show the coach that you want to work on getting better and outwork the next in the gym and on the field.
Good luck and keep your chin up!
I am 100% with TR Hit on this one. The kid got cut and has decided to give up. So let him. I don't mean to be rude, but if my kid got cut he would not give up. He would do whatever it took to prove that coach wrong and perservere, work twice as hard.. even if it took moving to another program.
Baseball is not life. Your son's worth is not measured by the game. If he has already told you he wants to give up, let him.
Baseball is not life. Your son's worth is not measured by the game. If he has already told you he wants to give up, let him.
quote:As far as talent, most high schools in our neck of the woods would have room on their roster for a lefty who throws low 80's and hits his spots.
If he truly throws low 80s, is a lefty, has good control. He should find a way to play and continue to develop. That is only if he loves the game.
There are many much worse things than giving up on playing baseball. Other than a few exceptions (ie, Roberto Clemente) everyone gives up on playing baseball at some point in their life.
There are some very good high school teams with a lot of talent. That situation can be tough on kids that have talent, but get caught up in the numbers.
Best of luck to your son in whatever he ends up doing.
FWIW... I know of at least two kids who were cut from their high school teams and both ended up playing professional baseball.
Ok let's not jump onto the let him quit bandwagon so quickly. This kid has put himself out there two years in a row and has been cut after some hard work. This hurts - trust me. I've seen it year after year when I have to cut someone. It tears me up inside when I see the faces of the hard workers get cut. If it hurts the coach that bad imagine how bad the kid feels.
Maybe giving up is the best option and he needs to focus on other things. I agree that baseball isn't life and there are other things out there but it doesn't mean he has to give it up. Right now to this kid baseball is the world to him. It will change over time as he gets older and more mature.
Give him a couple of weeks and then approach him about if he wants to play or not. He's hurting right now and the natural thing to do is lash out towards quitting. He may still have that drive but right now he's ticked off.
For those of you who say something like "my son would never quit" or "he would keep trying" or "he would use it as motivation" let me ask you this -
1) Has your son ever been cut?
2) Do you really know your son's most intimate thoughts?
Before you say yes to number two ask yourself this - does your wife / husband know every thought that goes on in your head?
The kid is young - give him some time to get over the pain and probably embarassment of being cut a 2nd year.
Maybe giving up is the best option and he needs to focus on other things. I agree that baseball isn't life and there are other things out there but it doesn't mean he has to give it up. Right now to this kid baseball is the world to him. It will change over time as he gets older and more mature.
Give him a couple of weeks and then approach him about if he wants to play or not. He's hurting right now and the natural thing to do is lash out towards quitting. He may still have that drive but right now he's ticked off.
For those of you who say something like "my son would never quit" or "he would keep trying" or "he would use it as motivation" let me ask you this -
1) Has your son ever been cut?
2) Do you really know your son's most intimate thoughts?
Before you say yes to number two ask yourself this - does your wife / husband know every thought that goes on in your head?
The kid is young - give him some time to get over the pain and probably embarassment of being cut a 2nd year.
Q1: Yes
Q2: That is not a question but an observation.
All I'm saying here is, the kid has to want it. If he does, he will indicate this to his father and then a plan of action can be developed. If he doesn't want it, and has indicated he would rather quit, that father is then in a situation where he is pushing the game on his son.. totally wrong.
So the kid's feelings are hurt? Of course. So there you go.. quit or get pi**ed. Your choice.
Q2: That is not a question but an observation.
All I'm saying here is, the kid has to want it. If he does, he will indicate this to his father and then a plan of action can be developed. If he doesn't want it, and has indicated he would rather quit, that father is then in a situation where he is pushing the game on his son.. totally wrong.
So the kid's feelings are hurt? Of course. So there you go.. quit or get pi**ed. Your choice.