@used2lurk posted:The coach will know. Does a kid enter portal if there is intent to transfer to a JUCO or only from D1 to D1/2/3?
Pretty sure he has to go into the portal. But @Rick at Informed Athlete is the person to ask any questions you have.
Already reached out. Son informed coach this am his intent to not return.
You do not need to for JUCO.
@used2lurk posted:Already reached out. Son informed coach this am his intent to not return.
He can still request to be entered into the portal from his current school's compliance office. If he were my son, I would talk to @Rick at Informed Athlete about the pros and cons before doing that. In the meantime, he can start contacting juco coaches. Best of luck to him.
Is this is the first portal season when schools, if they are offering a scholarship have to guarantee it? If so, how do you think this will affect players that go into the portal?
@nycdad posted:Is this is the first portal season when schools, if they are offering a scholarship have to guarantee it? If so, how do you think this will affect players that go into the portal?
P5 scholarships have been guaranteed and players still get cut all the time. As soon as a coach says "You aren't going to play here", most players are going to head out. I believe the rule is the scholarship is guaranteed until they graduate. I would think it might benefit older kids who are closer to their degree if it does have any impact.
@d-mac posted:P5 scholarships have been guaranteed and players still get cut all the time. As soon as a coach says "You aren't going to play here", most players are going to head out. I believe the rule is the scholarship is guaranteed until they graduate. I would think it might benefit older kids who are closer to their degree if it does have any impact.
Yep, I thought about that. I do think with P5s it's become the norm, and given the competition to play at a P5 there likely isn't a lot of incentive for coaches/programs to change.
I don't think the same will fly at less competitive D1 programs. Obviously it will happen, but I don't think it'll happen as much. Think you're right about older kids.
@nycdad posted:Is this is the first portal season when schools, if they are offering a scholarship have to guarantee it? If so, how do you think this will affect players that go into the portal?
Technically, I think this was in place for the 12/1-15 window for spring sports, but this is the first end of season window. if anything, it might make a coach slightly more cautious about offering scholarship money to "young" transfers, but I don't think it will change much.
There are so many different types of transfers. Graduate transfers are mostly playing one year, so the guarantee doesn't apply to most of them. Top talent guys are looking to get drafted so they don't need the extra years. unhappy guys (after transferring) are going to leave on their own... so how many kids will get those extra years of scholarship that wouldn't have gotten it anyway without the guarantee? just speculating.
@MidAtlanticDad posted:Technically, I think this was in place for the 12/1-15 window for spring sports, but this is the first end of season window. if anything, it might make a coach slightly more cautious about offering scholarship money to "young" transfers, but I don't think it will change much.
There are so many different types of transfers. Graduate transfers are mostly playing one year, so the guarantee doesn't apply to most of them. Top talent guys are looking to get drafted so they don't need the extra years. unhappy guys (after transferring) are going to leave on their own... so how many kids will get those extra years of scholarship that wouldn't have gotten it anyway without the guarantee? just speculating.
I agree with everything in the second paragraph. Let me remind everyone that the NCAA exists to promote and protect their member institutions. They do not exist for the betterment of college student athletes. So they are experts at making policy that appears to be favorable to student athletes but actually provides little to no help whatsoever.
Our strength coach was asked on Instagram if the transfer portal changed the way he trained. He said something like:: a lot of our guys are on 9 month contracts now, so it’s hard to plan for long term growth. Kind of telling.
@baseballhs posted:Our strength coach was asked on Instagram if the transfer portal changed the way he trained. He said something like:: a lot of our guys are on 9 month contracts now, so it’s hard to plan for long term growth. Kind of telling.
That’s pretty much the opposite of “development”, isn’t it?
Wichita State has 19 in the portal. Interim was just let go after Wedge was dismissed in the Fall.
@d-mac posted:Wichita State has 19 in the portal. Interim was just let go after Wedge was dismissed in the Fall.
I know 3 kids currently committed there. Should be interesting.
@nycdad posted:Exit meeting went well according to my son. No surprises. For next year they told him they expect him to be a weekend starter or used several times a week out of the pen…
Of course things can change, but for now he’s off to summer ball in mid June and is training remotely with Tread.
Not so lucky on this end. Money was pulled after being hurt all year now we get to what this portal is all about.
@d-mac posted:Not so lucky on this end. Money was pulled after being hurt all year now we get to what this portal is all about.
Sorry to hear that. Good luck. Is your son healthy now?
@nycdad posted:Sorry to hear that. Good luck. Is your son healthy now?
Can't start throwing until mid July.
I didn't notice it last year, but some of these players on social media are putting up posts that sound like they are Lebron leaving Cleveland (first time) while having not played an inning. Guess you can't teach feel.....
@nycdad posted:I didn't notice it last year, but some of these players on social media are putting up posts that sound like they are Lebron leaving Cleveland (first time) while having not played an inning. Guess you can't teach feel.....
As if on cue, just saw someone sub tweet their transfer post with their last transfer post.....
@d-mac posted:Not so lucky on this end. Money was pulled after being hurt all year now we get to what this portal is all about.
I'm sorry that this is happening in this situation.
@d-mac posted:Not so lucky on this end. Money was pulled after being hurt all year now we get to what this portal is all about.
From what I understand - the typical portal rules and windows do not apply to your son since his aid was reduced/not renewed.
I believe that puts him at somewhat of an advantage with the normal transfer window closing 7/13 and the draft falling after that. Teams who lose high schoolers to the draft would have surplus money/slots to offer that they cannot offer to the rest of the portal field.
Apparently wichita state fired all their coaches and at least 19 players went to the portal. Does anyone have a link to the portal list or could dm me a list of wichita st players in the portal? Thx in advance
@edcoach posted:Apparently wichita state fired all their coaches and at least 19 players went to the portal. Does anyone have a link to the portal list or could dm me a list of wichita st players in the portal? Thx in advance
Don’t have a link or a list. But I can tell you that the Wichita State program has been a dumpster fire for more than a decade.
@edcoach posted:Apparently wichita state fired all their coaches and at least 19 players went to the portal. Does anyone have a link to the portal list or could dm me a list of wichita st players in the portal? Thx in advance
I saw on twitter the number was 27 as of last night.
@adbono posted:Don’t have a link or a list. But I can tell you that the Wichita State program has been a dumpster fire for more than a decade.
Different black and gold, but lots of talk that Mizzou is trying to hire Childress.
@Master P posted:I know 3 kids currently committed there. Should be interesting.
And....they all have decommited.
| Cole Plowman | Wichita State | |
| Tyler Howry | Wichita State | |
| Tate Moody | Wichita State | |
| Jackson Young | Wichita State | |
| Samuel Mcaleer | Wichita State | |
| Scott Newman | Wichita State | |
| Timothy Arguello | Wichita State | |
| Carter Rost | Wichita State | |
| Matt Boyer | Wichita State | |
| Austin Wallace | Wichita State | |
| Gage Williams | Wichita State | |
| Jace Miner | Wichita State | |
| Jordan Rogers | Wichita State | |
| Nathan Snead | Wichita State | |
| Parker Dillhoff | Wichita State | |
| Charles Rogan | Wichita State | |
| Seth Stroh | Wichita State | |
| Charles Ingram | Wichita State | |
| Cooper Harris | Wichita State | |
| Brock Rodden* | Wichita State |
@PitchingFan posted:
Cole Plowman Wichita State Tyler Howry Wichita State Tate Moody Wichita State Jackson Young Wichita State Samuel Mcaleer Wichita State Scott Newman Wichita State Timothy Arguello Wichita State Carter Rost Wichita State Matt Boyer Wichita State Austin Wallace Wichita State Gage Williams Wichita State Jace Miner Wichita State Jordan Rogers Wichita State Nathan Snead Wichita State Parker Dillhoff Wichita State Charles Rogan Wichita State Seth Stroh Wichita State Charles Ingram Wichita State Cooper Harris Wichita State Brock Rodden* Wichita State
A few of these were cut in the fall and spent the spring at Jucos.
@d-mac posted:Different black and gold, but lots of talk that Mizzou is trying to hire Childress.
I hope they don’t. It would be a mistake.
@Master P posted:A few of these were cut in the fall and spent the spring at Jucos.
Really wish d1baseball.com would put an "as of" date or added date column to their list. Would be trivial.
Thanks guys. That program is in trouble but with the portal could come back fast
I'm guessing there are several that I know that put their name in and are in wait mode to see who gets the job and what opportunities they get. I don't think it hurts a player in their situation to put their name in the hat. I would also agree that D1Baseball is an information thing and very rarely does it change when a player goes to juco. Do a good job with D1 teams but not so good with other level teams. But they are D1baseball.
The program my son has signed his NIL with has already added one from the portal. It will be very interesting to follow the roster turnover / additions over the next weeks to make our own judgements of how much harder it may be for him to see any time on the field.
The level will determine the number of signees early on. Those who are still in playoffs will not be in transfer portal. Kinda gentlemen's agreement or just smart that if you are leaving you don't leave until season is over unless you have already had exit meeting and not on travel roster. Bad part is now some will be last minute additions due to guys getting drafted and teams needing immediate players.
Some schools have a policy (not baseball specific) where if you enter the portal, they won't let you come back. I'm sure "your millage may vary here" but I've heard of at least 3 recently.
D1 baseball hasn’t updated their list since 5/22, but this was posted yesterday and updated to 700 a few hours later.
@baseballhs posted:D1 baseball hasn’t updated their list since 5/22, but this was posted yesterday and updated to 700 a few hours later.
They just haven't changed that date. There are current players in there.
The tweet notes that 700+ players entered the portal today. (not which ones they were)
@nycdad posted:They just haven't changed that date. There are current players in there.
Thanks, I see it now. I didn’t even scroll through when I saw the date.
Transfer portal success story.
Joe Whitman pitched 5.2 innings in two seasons at P5 Purdue. Transferred to mid-major Kent State and now he's a top 50 draft prospect.