@BaseballGhostMom posted:

I think it was a poor choice of his to out them on X if his kid really is being recruited. Even without saying the school name, they know who he is and who his son is. Smh

I don’t really think he cares if the school knows, I know I wouldn’t. The school and coach will likely be known soon and the full story will be out there.

@TerribleBPthrower posted:

I don’t really think he cares if the school knows, I know I wouldn’t. The school and coach will likely be known soon and the full story will be out there.

I agree 100%. But I suspect that GhostMom was referring to the second X post which was an entirely different scenario. In that case the program sounds like it was was as up-front and honesty as possible, which is all you can really ask from anybody, in all walks of life.

In the original x post the program made an organizational decision that screwed the 2024s. The timing of the decision was brutal.

I'm going to take a bit of a contrarian view here and say that knowing now is the best thing that could happen to these kids...better than hitting the portal next year. 

If the recommendation for most potential D1 players are to go to juco, then there can't be enough space in the jucos to absorb them all.  Are jucos getting jammed too?

Where are all these HS grads going to go?

@anotherparent posted:

If the recommendation for most potential D1 players are to go to juco, then there can't be enough space in the jucos to absorb them all.  Are jucos getting jammed too?

Where are all these HS grads going to go?

They become NARPs, to use the youngster's vernacular.

You would think the next logical step would to put a cap on the number of transfers a team can take per year. I have no issue with that - players are still free to roam - programs are kept in check to some degree.

(5) 4-4 transfers every year, unlimited juco transfers seems pretty fair to me.

@Master P posted:

They become NARPs, to use the youngster's vernacular.

My 2023 uncorked that on me a few weeks ago in conversation.  I think it was Non Athletic Regular Person?  Seriously though.  I'm absolutely convinced now that even if my 2025 turns out to throw 87-90, I just want him to go to the best academic baseball D3 he can.  One with so many academic barriers to entry it is hard for anyone to just drop down into it or have a JUCO kid transfer in and take his spot.  This is a crazy college sports world and selfishly, I'm kinda ready to check out. 

@PABaseball posted:

You would think the next logical step would to put a cap on the number of transfers a team can take per year. I have no issue with that - players are still free to roam - programs are kept in check to some degree.

(5) 4-4 transfers every year, unlimited juco transfers seems pretty fair to me.

Why would you put a quota?   That is telling coaches and schools how they have to recruit.  Every school should be able to recruit however they see fit. Jmo. That would be like telling basketball coaches they cannot recruit one and done players.  

@Dadbelly2023 posted:

My 2023 uncorked that on me a few weeks ago in conversation.  I think it was Non Athletic Regular Person?  Seriously though.  I'm absolutely convinced now that even if my 2025 turns out to throw 87-90, I just want him to go to the best academic baseball D3 he can.  One with so many academic barriers to entry it is hard for anyone to just drop down into it or have a JUCO kid transfer in and take his spot.  This is a crazy college sports world and selfishly, I'm kinda ready to check out.

If I recall correctly, and I’m pretty sure I do, that was the exact advice I gave you a year ago.

@anotherparent posted:

If the recommendation for most potential D1 players are to go to juco, then there can't be enough space in the jucos to absorb them all.  Are jucos getting jammed too?

Where are all these HS grads going to go?

I believe they are. My 2024 has reached out to many D1/D2 jucos and very few responded. I know 2023 HS players were still commiting the summer after they graduated, so hopefully he finds a home where he is wanted.

2025 son is mixing in some JUCO camps this fall. Trying to see if he can get on their radar early-ish.

Attended a D1 camp last weekend. Coach was upfront and said they brought in 5 HS, 11 JUCOs, and 3 portal transfers this fall. Doesn't see that approach changing in the near future.

@adbono posted:

If I recall correctly, and I’m pretty sure I do, that was the exact advice I gave you a year ago.

Why yes. That is exactly what you said to me last year. But it takes time to overcome density. The wayback machine shows you pretty much called the current scenario 3  years ago. You also told us we would all catch COVID regardless of vaccine status.  So, in fact, you are him (as the kids say).

Here's what I'm seeing.  I think the JUCO's are packed and if you are trying to go to an elite baseball JUCO which pipelines into D1, you have to be VERY good. I know of a 5ft 7 LHP who is at a mid- JUCO with the hopes of eventual D1.  Sits 80-82.  Never going to happen.

The 2025's committing to D1 programs right now are all pretty special athletes.  On my kids team, they are 6.5 runners with elite hit tools; 6ft 160lb pitchers sitting 88 and touching 91; or pitchers who are 6ft 4 and sitting 86 T89.  And even then, I know more than half these kids will never get meaningful time and eventually transfer or drop down.  The odds of success for a 2025 who commits D1 next year as a last minute afterthought?  Gotta be dismal.

IMO. The college experience should be about getting a useful education and developing as a person.  I don't see 3 different programs in 5-6 years as ideal in this regard; at least for my kids.  The problem I have is that 2025 LHP is now 83-86 but no D3 college makes offers at this stage. They're all waiting to see who shakes out of D1.  He even point blank told a guy at a D3 who has clear interest in him that this was his number 1 school.  I guess they are waiting on the jr year grades and SAT  even though it is pretty obvious he can pull those off.

@PitchingFan posted:

I will believe it more when I see a name posted.  So far, it is one guy Xing it, I reckon we can't say tweeting it anymore, and it is nowhere else on the internet so questionable on reliable.

Should it happen?  No.  But everyone better have plan B.  My son is a Fifth year player and he had a plan B in case the school said no.  It is that way in life for most of us.  My job could be finished tomorrow if the right ones decided it was time for me to go.  Plan B.

The sad point is many think they are owed something by the college.

It is understood in many cases they have invested a significant amount of time and money into the student athletes future, but until the player signs their NLI, things can change on a dime.

It has been pointed out in many forums what is going to happen, problem is  families are saying it won't happen to me.

Just look at the incoming Fall class of SIU-Cardondale, now if I'm a student-athlete/Parent of a 24/25/26, it would behoove you to specifically ask questions concerning recruiting High School players

@Dadbelly2023 posted:

The problem I have is that 2025 LHP is now 83-86 but no D3 college makes offers at this stage. They're all waiting to see who shakes out of D1.  He even point blank told a guy at a D3 who has clear interest in him that this was his number 1 school.  I guess they are waiting on the jr year grades and SAT  even though it is pretty obvious he can pull those off.

D3 coaches recruit summer after junior year of HS; they literally don't have time or money to recruit 2 years out.  IMO that is how it should be for everyone, it would greatly reduce all the early commitment problems.

D3s are taking more transfers than before, too, even the HAs, especially the non-HAs.

@PitchingFan posted:

Why would you put a quota?   That is telling coaches and schools how they have to recruit.  Every school should be able to recruit however they see fit. Jmo. That would be like telling basketball coaches they cannot recruit one and done players.  

Coaches are always being told how they can recruit!  The rules change, but there are (or used to be) rules.

I would have no problem with the NCAA telling basketball coaches that college players have to have a 3-year commitment.  Some players would go to the D-league instead.  Does anyone think people would stop watching college basketball if that happened?

@anotherparent posted:

Coaches are always being told how they can recruit!  The rules change, but there are (or used to be) rules.

I would have no problem with the NCAA telling basketball coaches that college players have to have a 3-year commitment.  Some players would go to the D-league instead.  Does anyone think people would stop watching college basketball if that happened?

And specifically, why can’t coaches be held accountable to develop the kids they sign? Maybe they wouldn’t throw around offers. I think at a minimum, coaches and players should be bound for 2 years. Makes it a real decision on both sides. I’ve said before, I’m down for Gundy’s idea. Sign a 1,2,3 or 4 year deal. You are both bound. Now you know how much a team really believes in you and how committed both sides are.

@anotherparent posted:

Coaches are always being told how they can recruit!  The rules change, but there are (or used to be) rules.

I would have no problem with the NCAA telling basketball coaches that college players have to have a 3-year commitment.  Some players would go to the D-league instead.  Does anyone think people would stop watching college basketball if that happened?

What you are suggesting would be challenged all the way to the supreme court.

Note, you are talking about being an indentured servant to an institution.

I find it interesting that many want free market principles on selective items.

Note, when there is money involved laws are created to limit.

Note, a coach can leave at anytime, but a player can't?

Maybe the solution is give students mlb type contracts with buyout clauses.

This may hold both parties accountable

@CollegebaseballInsights posted:

Note, you are talking about being an indentured servant to an institution.

I find it interesting that many want free market principles on selective items.

Note, when there is money involved laws are created to limit.

Note, a coach can leave at anytime, but a player can't?

Maybe the solution is give students mlb type contracts with buyout clauses.

This may hold both parties accountable

No, I would not want a rule like that unless there were a choice.  With baseball, players can be drafted out of HS, but if they go to college, they have to wait 3 years (or less if they go to juco).  So there's plenty of choices.

I have no problem "indenturing" players who choose a 4-year college route.  I do think that the college has to be required to keep them, too, though - according to what the NIL says.

There could be options for when coaches leave.

At this point I think that money sports athletes should be employees, and football and basketball should not require that they take classes.  Just look upon them as a service provided to the university.  However, baseball in most places is not a money sport.

@CollegebaseballInsights posted:

What you are suggesting would be challenged all the way to the supreme court.

Note, you are talking about being an indentured servant to an institution.

I find it interesting that many want free market principles on selective items.

Note, when there is money involved laws are created to limit.

Note, a coach can leave at anytime, but a player can't?

Maybe the solution is give students mlb type contracts with buyout clauses.

This may hold both parties accountable

It's not indentured servitude. It would be an agreement/contract in exchange for a scholarship (at most D1 including room, board, training, coaching, clothing, gear, etc) and in return remain at that school for the agreed upon amount of time. They have choices to not take advantage of these resources and try to go straight to the pros.

@nycdad posted:

As others have posted need more details on this. I there there is likely more to this story. If he was offering to tell people the school that DM'd him, I'm surprised the school name isn't out yet.

EDIT: Just checked the thread. Seems like several people have DM'd him but he hasn't responded back. Something seems a bit off.

If this is true, then I would expect to see Twitter littered with posts like, "I want to thank Broken Condom State University for the opportunity to play D1 baseball. With that said, I have prayerfully decided to re-open my recruitment".   I haven't seen any posts yet, so.....

This may sound simple but I think there is a clear differentiation between the definition of developing players.  I would love for you guys to give me your definition of developing players because I'm guessing mine is different than yours.  I believe your definition of developing is making them successful and giving them playing time.  Mine is helping them get to the level they desire and are willing to put the work in to attain.  The problem is most unsuccessful players are not willing to put the work in to get to where they say they want to be or were in over their heads to start with.  But sometimes the playing field just changes during the process.  I do not believe that my son's current team would recruit him if he was a high school player right now because the level of the playing field has changed so drastically from the time he was recruited.  They went from the cellar of the SEC to the elites of NCAA.  I have watched hundreds of college players over the past 20 years and the ones who were successful were the ones who put in the work and had the talent.  The failures were a combo of lack of time invested and lack of ultimate talent.  Some were just athletes but their mechanics did not translate to the next level and they were recruited hoping they would work hard and get better.  They didn't.

For parents who have kids currently playing. Have you asked them what their opinion is on the current recruiting landscape?

My oldest (senior) plans on going into coaching when he's done after this year. We were talking recently about it and he was seemed pretty pretty set in the idea of "I wouldn't recruit guys out of HS, I'd go to the portal or JUCOs". Obviously he won't be making these decisions anytime soon if ever, but thought it was interesting.

@nycdad posted:

As others have posted need more details on this. I there there is likely more to this story. If he was offering to tell people the school that DM'd him, I'm surprised the school name isn't out yet.

EDIT: Just checked the thread. Seems like several people have DM'd him but he hasn't responded back. Something seems a bit off.

The school's name is in the thread now.

@Master P posted:

The school's name is in the thread now.

I see the name of one school that was thrown out speculatively. I don’t see any confirmation that it’s correct

@PitchingFan posted:

This may sound simple but I think there is a clear differentiation between the definition of developing players.  I would love for you guys to give me your definition of developing players because I'm guessing mine is different than yours.  I believe your definition of developing is making them successful and giving them playing time.  Mine is helping them get to the level they desire and are willing to put the work in to attain.  The problem is most unsuccessful players are not willing to put the work in to get to where they say they want to be or were in over their heads to start with.  But sometimes the playing field just changes during the process.  I do not believe that my son's current team would recruit him if he was a high school player right now because the level of the playing field has changed so drastically from the time he was recruited.  They went from the cellar of the SEC to the elites of NCAA.  I have watched hundreds of college players over the past 20 years and the ones who were successful were the ones who put in the work and had the talent.  The failures were a combo of lack of time invested and lack of ultimate talent.  Some were just athletes but their mechanics did not translate to the next level and they were recruited hoping they would work hard and get better.  They didn't.

You always wear such beautiful rose colored glasses, where it all is really the kid’s fault. Coaches are of high moral character and no one gets screwed. They either didn’t work hard enough, or went to a stretch school. I wish everyone could go to Tennessee if that’s really true there.  I can give you a ton of examples of that not being the case but I’ll wait until this year is over.
clearly not every school is the same. I can believe there are places where things are done fairly, there are places where they are not, and everything in between.

As I often do regarding this topic, I will echo what @baseballhs says. I am entering my 7th year as a Volunteer Asst Coach at a Region 5 JuCo in Texas. My observation is that most kids will go thru a wall for you if they believe that you care about them. You may ask what shows them that you care? My answer would be, being competent enough to teach them how to be better players, and spending time with them explaining (and showing) to them how to do things differently. And this applies to any and all aspects of the game. We are doing this (especially with our pitchers) and the results are obvious. We are using Trackman data to help design the most effective pitch design (and arsenal) for all of our guys. All of their bullpens are supervised and we are tweaking things as necessary based on the results of each player in fall games and scrimmages. This is the definition of player development IMO, and it should be going on everywhere. But I can promise you that it isn’t. Parents that have kids in programs where stuff like this goes on can’t conceive of anything different. Parents that have kids in programs where this isn’t going on (which is the majority) can’t believe that development is going on anywhere. It’s a topic that is heavily influenced by the tunnel vision of one personal experience. Just my two cents.

@TerribleBPthrower posted:

It's not indentured servitude. It would be an agreement/contract in exchange for a scholarship (at most D1 including room, board, training, coaching, clothing, gear, etc) and in return remain at that school for the agreed upon amount of time. They have choices to not take advantage of these resources and try to go straight to the pros.

Seems the are some missing pieces to your response, which is understood.

And the contract is normally 1 yr with a renewal at the discretion of the coach.

Note, it is a partial scholarship

And we all know, at the annual review the coach will tell you where you may stand, and hint to you that you might want to leave.

Now that there is a push for fairness from a student athlete perspective to freely move, then people want to restrict and keep the same in a system that has never been fair.

The book "Indentured: The Inside Story of the Rebellion Against the NCAA" by Joe Nocera

@Master P posted:

The school's name is in the thread now.

Imho,  it is funny to "out the school".  It will not change a darn thing, especially if he is successful.

The coach has made a choice with respect to his recruiting strategy, HS Parents are mad (understood).

It was last minute,  we can all say, maybe the rule change should be "there should be 10 day window between getting the offer and signing the NLI."

When future grad classes do their research, there will be a red flag that the school didn't recruit high school players.

The interested player can ask the coach directly what is their future plan

Trust But Verify

Here is a look at Abilene Christian incoming class since 2018, they started one way then changed

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2019

@baseballhs posted:

You always wear such beautiful rose colored glasses, where it all is really the kid’s fault. Coaches are of high moral character and no one gets screwed. They either didn’t work hard enough, or went to a stretch school. I wish everyone could go to Tennessee if that’s really true there.  I can give you a ton of examples of that not being the case but I’ll wait until this year is over.
clearly not every school is the same. I can believe there are places where things are done fairly, there are places where they are not, and everything in between.

I don't claim to think it is perfect at UT and I'm sure some who have left in the past 4 years would say they did not get a chance but I would gracefully disagree.   Pretty much every pitcher and fielder gets the same amount of time as everyone else in the fall to earn a spot.  Some succeed and others fail.  Some are willing to hang around and earn a spot maybe even 3 years down the line and others are not.  I think the staff has proven that by the number of players that are drafted each year that were not starting their freshman year.  I'm sure some are told they will struggle ever earning a spot here but most of those are given extreme help in finding a place they can succeed as proven.  I know it is not perfect but I also have seen the many kids who came into UT throwing 80's to low 90's and left throwing 100 plus or close to it and those men were drafted highly and are pitching in the pros.

My statement comes from watching the many 100's of guys I have coached throughout the years and my sons have played with.  I know there are bad coaches out there and maybe I look through a different set of glasses because I don't keep up with many D2, D3, or NAIA schools or players.  Most of the ones I keep up with are D1 or juco schools.  That may be the rose colored glasses but that is my set of glasses.  My sons have played with mostly D1 or competitive juco guys.  These schools are coached by successful guys and that is because if they don't win and make successful players they are fired.  I'm sure that is not the case at smaller schools and I know many juco's where that is the case.  Take care of the right kids and don't go stupid and you keep your job win or lose.

I do believe there are a lot of players that do not put in the time that it takes to be successful either in HS or in college.  Some of you would say those are the well-rounded students and that may be true but the ones who want it give up almost everything else to achieve it.  Some get in over their heads in college when it comes to competing and putting the extra time in.  Son spent 10-12 hours a day at the field his freshman year to earn a spot.  Most of his teammates did not and they did not make it.  The ones that did were either drafted or finished out.  He is staying for his 5th year.

All I can speak on is my perspective and what I have seen.

@CollegebaseballInsights posted:

Now that there is a push for fairness from a student athlete perspective to freely move, then people want to restrict and keep the same in a system that has never been fair.

You posted all over that twitter thread how the "system is not broken". and then post here how the system is unfair. Isn't that broken?

You also said: "The only difference between between the past and present is social media and maybe better access to information in order to make a more informed decision."

I think very few people would say that's the only difference. Otherwise this thread wouldn't exist. it's different than even a few years ago when my kids were going through this.

And that's fine, but then you'll post here:

"It has been pointed out in many forums what is going to happen, problem is  families are saying it won't happen to me."

I read that as you saying the system is different now.

@Dadbelly2023 posted:

Why yes. That is exactly what you said to me last year. But it takes time to overcome density. The wayback machine shows you pretty much called the current scenario 3  years ago. You also told us we would all catch COVID regardless of vaccine status.  So, in fact, you are him (as the kids say).

Here's what I'm seeing.  I think the JUCO's are packed and if you are trying to go to an elite baseball JUCO which pipelines into D1, you have to be VERY good. I know of a 5ft 7 LHP who is at a mid- JUCO with the hopes of eventual D1.  Sits 80-82.  Never going to happen.

The 2025's committing to D1 programs right now are all pretty special athletes.  On my kids team, they are 6.5 runners with elite hit tools; 6ft 160lb pitchers sitting 88 and touching 91; or pitchers who are 6ft 4 and sitting 86 T89.  And even then, I know more than half these kids will never get meaningful time and eventually transfer or drop down.  The odds of success for a 2025 who commits D1 next year as a last minute afterthought?  Gotta be dismal.

IMO. The college experience should be about getting a useful education and developing as a person.  I don't see 3 different programs in 5-6 years as ideal in this regard; at least for my kids.  The problem I have is that 2025 LHP is now 83-86 but no D3 college makes offers at this stage. They're all waiting to see who shakes out of D1.  He even point blank told a guy at a D3 who has clear interest in him that this was his number 1 school.  I guess they are waiting on the jr year grades and SAT  even though it is pretty obvious he can pull those off.

My son played pre Covid eligibility extensions and the portal. His team typically brought in about fourteen freshman and a JuCo player or two each year the coach felt could fill an immediate need.

Even then half the freshmen would be gone after a season. Everyone on my son’s 17u team went P5 except the kid who chose an Ivy over Duke. Half of them transferred. Even before all the recruiting changes the numbers said 50% of D1 college players will finish their college baseball career at a second school.

No matter how you slice it a thirty-five man roster doesn’t fit into an eighteen to twenty player playing rotation. The problem now is getting in the front door out of high school.

A last minute D1 recruit has about the same shot now as he did ten years ago. He’s third level insurance against the top recruits not panning out.

An alternative to JuCo is play ranked D2 or D3, get into a top level collegiate summer league to prove the talent then transfer up to D1.

The lefty pitcher throwing 80-82 was going D3 then (before recruiting changes) and now.

@nycdad posted:

You posted all over that twitter thread how the "system is not broken". and then post here how the system is unfair. Isn't that broken?

You also said: "The only difference between between the past and present is social media and maybe better access to information in order to make a more informed decision."

I think very few people would say that's the only difference. Otherwise this thread wouldn't exist. it's different than even a few years ago when my kids were going through this.

And that's fine, but then you'll post here:

"It has been pointed out in many forums what is going to happen, problem is  families are saying it won't happen to me."

I read that as you saying the system is different now.

You need to provide some more context.

On twitter, people are bitching about offers being pulled.  They are offers, which are non-binding. The coach can pull that at any time

As for players having the ability to leave a program after their is contract is up vs being required to stay 3 yrs, that is locking players into something that they should have the opportunity to change.

So I'm consistent.

You don't have to like it, but it is what it is.

You will never satisfy all stakeholders.

In the end, everybody is looking out for themselves.

People as still pissed that college waived eligibility

JUCO - 2020 and 2021

4 yr - 2020

HS parents, well they played 20 games, they should not get an extra year.

They will not say, "Teams in the South played 20 games, and players in the North and Midwest played 3"

Again, everybody is looking out for their own self interest.

Thank you for the lunchtime entertainment. I'm just over here minding my business, trying to figure out where adbono coaches and then mom and dad start fighting. Careful, we don't want to make things more awkward than necessary at Thanksgiving.

While I'm here, I'm not a fan at all of airing dirty laundry about college coaching on X. Call me too careful.... but I wouldn't want any prospective coach to think I'm gonna blast their program as soon as I'm unhappy with a coaching decision. It's a bad look for my kid, whether I'm blasting for good reason or not.

@CollegebaseballInsights posted:

You need to provide some more context.

On twitter, people are bitching about offers being pulled.  They are offers, which are non-binding. The coach can pull that at any time

As for players having the ability to leave a program after their is contract is up vs being required to stay 3 yrs, that is locking players into something that they should have the opportunity to change.

So I'm consistent.

You don't have to like it, but it is what it is.

You will never satisfy all stakeholders.

In the end, everybody is looking out for themselves.

People as still pissed that college waived eligibility

JUCO - 2020 and 2021

4 yr - 2020

HS parents, well they played 20 games, they should not get an extra year.

They will not say, "Teams in the South played 20 games, and players in the North and Midwest played 3"

Again, everybody is looking out for their own self interest.

What other context can you provide for this?

"The only difference between between the past and present is social media and maybe better access to information in order to make a more informed decision."

Anyway doesn't matter, people can go read the thread themselves and decide for themselves.

@CollegebaseballInsights posted:

You need to provide some more context.

On twitter, people are bitching about offers being pulled.  They are offers, which are non-binding. The coach can pull that at any time

this is true, but then they really need to stop the whole gentleman‘s agreement thing where all the coaches stop talking to a player once they verbally commit. Coaches want committed players to post that they are committed and then they expect all conversations to stop. Some coaches don’t even like them playing in events after that. it is very one-sided because the coach is still looking to replace them

@baseballhs posted:

this is true, but then they really need to stop the whole gentleman‘s agreement thing where all the coaches stop talking to a player once they verbally commit. Coaches want committed players to post that they are committed and then they expect all conversations to stop. Some coaches don’t even like them playing in events after that. it is very one-sided because the coach is still looking to replace them

Agreed.

IMHO it is BS.

Jerry McGuire "Show Me the Money"

@PitchingFan posted:

Why would you put a quota?   That is telling coaches and schools how they have to recruit.  Every school should be able to recruit however they see fit. Jmo. That would be like telling basketball coaches they cannot recruit one and done players.  

Apples and oranges - also coaches are already told how they can/can't recruit.

I would establish a max quota so programs aren't routed by turnover each season. If they want to bring in transfers to fill immediate needs - by all means. It still allows players to transfer - it just eliminates "free agency" so to say. The way it stands it's all just a funnel to the top 25 and leaves a void for mid majors and lower level D1s. Which in turn - makes them less competitive.

I will also add that I was not pro NIL and I was not completely pro transfer. Anybody with half a brain saw it trending this way. It also creates roster problems - once you start taking transfers heavily you have to continue with that model since you're not really recruiting high schoolers to come anymore - there isn't a young core coming up thru the system so to say.

That has been part of the knock on Colorado. They went out and got however many transfers as they did - if the portal is down in a year they are going to be in trouble since there aren't young guys waiting in the wings. They need to replace 25 guys per year thru the portal which is a tall order. Especially when it comes to the line which from what I've gathered - top tier linemen don't enter the portal very often. And now you have to compete with the SEC wallets to get them there in the first place.

What does this do? Causes a coaching carousel and an endless cycle of people entering the portal, transferring, coaches leave for greener pastures, more kids enter portal...so on

A member PM'd me and asked me to post about the pulling of offers at the mid major, if I had any information.  I do not other than to share the X responses to @steveteel17 (below) from Mike Colangelo who I trust without any hesitation or reservation whatsoever.  He was a very integral component in my son's development, training, travel ball, HS and finally committing to his college program.

@adbono posted:

I see the name of one school that was thrown out speculatively. I don’t see any confirmation that it’s correct

Without digging too much into it - the original tweet is from an already suspect source, and other than a lone post from a decommit, it doesn't appear to be very valid, nor does the program (which did well last year) have a big history of doing this.

I always love the "I've heard" or "A coach informed me" before a controversial take the poster is not prepared to defend. Almost 1 million engagements on twitter though.

@PABaseball posted:

Without digging too much into it - the original tweet is from an already suspect source, and other than a lone post from a decommit, it doesn't appear to be very valid, nor does the program (which did well last year) have a big history of doing this.

I always love the "I've heard" or "A coach informed me" before a controversial take the poster is not prepared to defend. Almost 1 million engagements on twitter though.

A post that names a school for any kind of unscrupulous behavior, without evidence to support such a claim, can be very damaging. Especially when it turns out to not be true. I don’t know how we have gotten to the point where people routinely make damning statements that are false and they suffer no consequences. SMH