Congrats to the Lincoln Way East Griffins who won their regional today with a 4-2 victory over #1 Lockport.
The Lincoln Way East program has some exceptional classes in the pipeline, and in my opinion should be in it for years to come.
wait hold up....Joliet Catholic Academy lost today???
Brad Allen, sounds like you pitched a great game against tough competition, congtats on a greta job and a great season!!! KEEP WORKING!!
Benet beat a very good Wheaton team and soph-Pitcher, 7-5. Connor Powers hit number 16. O'neill and ROberts both hit and played great defense,and Doyle was impressive at short.
which wheaton team did Benet beat???North?? warenville south?
Glenbrook South 7
Notre Dame 6
Glenbrook South wins fourth regional in five years as TJ McManus goes 3-for-4 with 5 RBIs. Tom Jahnke gets go ahead single in sixth. Junior Tom Deschamps (3-2) got the win and fellow junior Peter Steiner closed the door with two on in seventh.
Notre Dame 6
Glenbrook South wins fourth regional in five years as TJ McManus goes 3-for-4 with 5 RBIs. Tom Jahnke gets go ahead single in sixth. Junior Tom Deschamps (3-2) got the win and fellow junior Peter Steiner closed the door with two on in seventh.
Benet beat Wheaton-Warrenville South; hardly a "very good team."
Anybody else who was at the Notre Dame - Glenbrook game would have to agree that the umpiring was very shaky and unfortunately had an affect on the outcome of the game . Glenbrook played well , but had some help along the way.
there were a couple blown calls in that game, but it didnt seem as though the notre dame coach cared at all. South came up w/ the timely hitting.
Niles West Sectional:
Glenbrook North vs. New Trier
Glenbrook South vs. Loyola
Glenbrook North vs. New Trier
Glenbrook South vs. Loyola
O'Fallon 5
Triad 1
We lost to an outstanding pitcher. We also lost because we didn't do the little things we preach/practice all of the time. In baseball, you have to make one key pitch, one key play and get one key hit. O'Fallon bested us in every category. Congratulations to Coach Portz and the O'Fallon Panthers.
Triad 1
We lost to an outstanding pitcher. We also lost because we didn't do the little things we preach/practice all of the time. In baseball, you have to make one key pitch, one key play and get one key hit. O'Fallon bested us in every category. Congratulations to Coach Portz and the O'Fallon Panthers.
CoachB,
I know this must have been a tough loss for you and your team. I don't know anything about O'Fallon but they must have one heck of a squad.
Congratulations on a terrific season, 24-12 plus the experience of playing at the new Busch Stadium. Have a great summer.
I know this must have been a tough loss for you and your team. I don't know anything about O'Fallon but they must have one heck of a squad.
Congratulations on a terrific season, 24-12 plus the experience of playing at the new Busch Stadium. Have a great summer.
Rosy, you have a pm.
what the heck happened to Lockport?
I was not there but i heard that the umps were horrible in the Notre Dame game. Man-- bad calls plus that tiny park makes for a frustrating loss for the Dons I am sure.
I was at the game as an outside fan(not from either school) and have to admit that Notre Dame did get several bad calls, especially the one that should have been a foul ball call down the left field line. However, Notre Dame did put quite a few guys on base via walks and the Glenbrook South boys were hitting the ball really well. Also, Peter Steiner, the last GBS pitcher, put out the fire that was started when he entered the game with only 1 out in the bottom of the 7th.
That home plate umpire has been trying to make ND lose all year long. It's honestly in those kids heads now as we only won 1 game with him all year in 5 or so games (the 1 being N.Side Prep in Rnd 1, which almost doesn't count). I think we did something to him in a past life or something. And him reversing the call in the 6th wasn't helpful either, and I honestly thought Kostuch would have gotten tossed after arguing for so long.
Having that said, ND should have won the game a long time before that. We squandered too many opportunities with getting runners thrown out and missed assignments
Having that said, ND should have won the game a long time before that. We squandered too many opportunities with getting runners thrown out and missed assignments
Notre Dame wasnt playing against nine ...they were playing against eleven . Thats how bad it was. A lot of indecisiveness by the umps. It would seem to me that if the left fielder trips on the bullpen mound while trying to make a catch it would be a foul ball . The base ump making a call at first base ...which is his responsibility ...and only about 20 feet from the play , only to then ask the home plate ump ( who was 90 feet from the play ) for help and then home plate ump reverses the call ending the inning for N.D. That was absolutely brutal .
Sulltiger, I wish I knew who you were (although I have a feeling, please pm me your identity). But yes, if a left fielder trips off the bullpen mound and he's a left-handed fielder where in the hell do you think the ball is? Certainly not fair. Everyone who was watching from ND's side knew we were in huge trouble when we saw the home plate umpire because he has apparently never liked us.
Maine South: Our guy beats out a grounder in the 6th, he calls him out. Before that, they said the 6th inning would be the last due to darkness. The sun was still out there. Joliet Cath.: We have 3 umpires that Doubleheader just so they could be in the right place and we had our 1st base coach tossed after he made a call from the 3rd base side of 1st (to be fair, the 1st umpire did ask for help).
Now back to the base ump at the play at 1st: Line Drive hit right back to the pitcher on the fly, pitcher throws the ball to 1st and, to be honest, appears to double up ND's runner. 1st base umpire calls him safe. AFTER the GBS coach finally gets him to ask for help (about 2 min or so), base umpire changes his mind. But before all of that, Ball hit down the left field line and apparently goes underneath the fence, our Left Fielder throws his hands up, umps do absolutely nothing until our guy tries to go after the ball (turns out he pulled a fast one on the umps-ha ha). Base umpire finally runs out and calls a ground-rule double. At least someone should have ran out there when our guy puts his hands up, I dunno, maybe I'm the idiot here.
Give all credit to GBS though. Hell, they won. They're a good team and don't deserve to be discredited. GBS got some good pitching and some pop in their lineup (although I think anyone can hit a ball out of their ballpark, but you get my point). To be fair, the way ND was playing the last month, it ain't that big of an upset, especially in GBS's home field (which is another discussion for another day. Can we go back to top 4 get the regional home games?) But can we please have some umpires who have a clue? Heck, I was at Loyola and the home plate umpire looked like he wanted to hand the **** game to Loyola. Evanston hit a home run that looked for **** certainty went straight over the foul pole (or at least to the right side of the Left Field pole). The umpire tells the coach the ball was clearly foul. Clearly foul my foot. I was pretty straight on with a whole bunch of impartial witnesses and I think Evanston got hosed, but what can you do. Evanston should have won in spite of the umps as well, but I think the point I'm trying to make is that the umpires should not make themselves part of the game, and these bighead umpires do make themselves part of the game, and that's sad. Sure, they're going to miss calls, we can live with that. We just can't live with stupidity.
I apologize for typing so long but good luck to everyone still left. I'll be at Niles West for what should be a **** good game Wed. between GBN and New Trier (Altbach surely pitching for GBN).
Maine South: Our guy beats out a grounder in the 6th, he calls him out. Before that, they said the 6th inning would be the last due to darkness. The sun was still out there. Joliet Cath.: We have 3 umpires that Doubleheader just so they could be in the right place and we had our 1st base coach tossed after he made a call from the 3rd base side of 1st (to be fair, the 1st umpire did ask for help).
Now back to the base ump at the play at 1st: Line Drive hit right back to the pitcher on the fly, pitcher throws the ball to 1st and, to be honest, appears to double up ND's runner. 1st base umpire calls him safe. AFTER the GBS coach finally gets him to ask for help (about 2 min or so), base umpire changes his mind. But before all of that, Ball hit down the left field line and apparently goes underneath the fence, our Left Fielder throws his hands up, umps do absolutely nothing until our guy tries to go after the ball (turns out he pulled a fast one on the umps-ha ha). Base umpire finally runs out and calls a ground-rule double. At least someone should have ran out there when our guy puts his hands up, I dunno, maybe I'm the idiot here.
Give all credit to GBS though. Hell, they won. They're a good team and don't deserve to be discredited. GBS got some good pitching and some pop in their lineup (although I think anyone can hit a ball out of their ballpark, but you get my point). To be fair, the way ND was playing the last month, it ain't that big of an upset, especially in GBS's home field (which is another discussion for another day. Can we go back to top 4 get the regional home games?) But can we please have some umpires who have a clue? Heck, I was at Loyola and the home plate umpire looked like he wanted to hand the **** game to Loyola. Evanston hit a home run that looked for **** certainty went straight over the foul pole (or at least to the right side of the Left Field pole). The umpire tells the coach the ball was clearly foul. Clearly foul my foot. I was pretty straight on with a whole bunch of impartial witnesses and I think Evanston got hosed, but what can you do. Evanston should have won in spite of the umps as well, but I think the point I'm trying to make is that the umpires should not make themselves part of the game, and these bighead umpires do make themselves part of the game, and that's sad. Sure, they're going to miss calls, we can live with that. We just can't live with stupidity.
I apologize for typing so long but good luck to everyone still left. I'll be at Niles West for what should be a **** good game Wed. between GBN and New Trier (Altbach surely pitching for GBN).
goomlah, ur totally right about the home run being fair. It looked to me like it curved right inside the foul poll. The other thing is that in the first inning the second batter was crowding the plate and leaned in to a curve ball taking it off is forearm. He literally stuck is whole arm over the plate. It seems to me like that is the most argued about play in high school baseball, whether a batter has to make an attempt to get out of the way of the ball or whether he can just stand there and be hit by it. He later scored that inning which made a big difference in the game. But hey thats baseball.
I didn't see the game, but the rules in high school are very clear that a batter needs to make an attempt to get out of the way of the ball.
Now, we all know that a 60mph curveball can be taken in the hip by turning away and actually increasing the batter's chances of getting hit--but that is a whole other topic altogether.
Now, we all know that a 60mph curveball can be taken in the hip by turning away and actually increasing the batter's chances of getting hit--but that is a whole other topic altogether.
Trust me bally, he went straight into the ball. I didn't want to make my post any longer but basically he turned his arm straight into the pitch.
Well, a smart baseball move, but one that needs to be disallowed the way that the IHSA rules are written.
Itsrosy, I sent you a PM.
Boris, Back to ya.
Just a few quick things on GBS vs ND. I'm very sure that the double play was just that as the runner ran right into the GBS firstbaseman and never made it back to the base. I'm not sure about the ball down the left field line, but the bullpen does starts right on the line. One thing I do know is that GBS had 3 runners picked off and made 5 errors, if these things hadn't occured it would have been about 10-4 GBS and any close called would not have mattered, I mean the fact is the GBS hitters hit the ball against two very good pitchers from ND. Finally I want to say that I don't want to start a fight about any of this, I'm just calling it as I say it as others have as well. But one final thing in a game with a 20 MPH wind blowing out to left no homeruns were hit so I'm sure what people's issue with people hitting the ball out of the park are. Again seeing as no HRs were hit.
GBSouth
The point your missing about that double play was that the base ump ...whether correct or not...made the call ( safe ) . CALL SHOULD STAND. There should have been no need to ask for help from homer ...i mean home plate ump who was much further away from the play than the base ump . N.D. should have had their 4 hitter up with two men on . Instead it was inning over. That is a very big turn of events at that juncture of the game .
The point your missing about that double play was that the base ump ...whether correct or not...made the call ( safe ) . CALL SHOULD STAND. There should have been no need to ask for help from homer ...i mean home plate ump who was much further away from the play than the base ump . N.D. should have had their 4 hitter up with two men on . Instead it was inning over. That is a very big turn of events at that juncture of the game .
GBSouth,
Changing the subject, what is Carlson's pitching record for this year? Also, who is considered your #2 pitcher. I was at the game when the Steiner kid came in and he looked really good? Does he start or just relieve? Good luck against Loyola this week!!
Changing the subject, what is Carlson's pitching record for this year? Also, who is considered your #2 pitcher. I was at the game when the Steiner kid came in and he looked really good? Does he start or just relieve? Good luck against Loyola this week!!
I know that in the Loyola-Evanston game some calls may have gone Loyola's way, and the fact is that 2 of 3 Rambler runs were not earned anyway. The score should have been 1-1, it was a great pitchers duel on both sides. All that being said and I think this applies to GBS-ND on principle as well, we must remember that umps are people who make mistakes, just like players and coaches and parents and fans. All we can really do is take care of what we have power over, that being ourselves. At times it is very easy to get frustrated and angry and blame the men in blue for a loss, I've done it before and will do it again, but even so that doesn't make it right. In almost every game where I want to blame the umps for a loss I can also blame the losing team. Whatever bad calls might have occured if a team lost they also did something or several things that helped result in the loss, umps do make us upset, but we often have ourselves to blame when we've lost as much as the umps.
Im not saying that N.D. lost the game because of the umps . But the two blown calls definitely had an affect on how the game might have turned out . These calls didnt occur early in the game ...they happened in the sixth inning with the game very much in the balance . Neither of these 2 umps had any balls .
GBSOUTH
N.D. Made their share of errors too...whats your point ?
GBSOUTH
N.D. Made their share of errors too...whats your point ?
sulltiger,
I'm not trying to start a fight here or anything but I think my point was pretty clear. GBS made five errors and got picked off 3 times. ND made two errors and was picked off once. If GBS played good defense like they do most days instead of looking worse then a lot of 12-year-old travel teams ND would have had less runs and GBS would have had more, therefore the score would have been very different and the close calls less important. For example Trevor Stevens, the GBS second baseman and one of the team's better defensive players had a double play ground ball go off him and into centerfield. That play lead to two ND later in the inning and forced GBS to pull its pitcher at the time. GBS also misplayed the last out of an inning at one point with a man on third that allowed NDs 4th run to score and made the game 4-4 at the time. I'm not saying that you can't say the umps calls didn't make a difference I'm just saying that they might not have had to. Also I think that the GBS kids deserve credit for what they did. Twice in the game they were down and came back to take the lead, they could have just packed it in either time. They could have packed it in when their pitchers couldn't throw strikes or fielders couldn't make play. Yet they didn't they kept playing never gave up and got hits and outs when they needed it. I have no idea what will happen to this team the rest of the way, but I was proud as a former player at the way that GBS's team represented the program and the school on Saturday.
I'm not trying to start a fight here or anything but I think my point was pretty clear. GBS made five errors and got picked off 3 times. ND made two errors and was picked off once. If GBS played good defense like they do most days instead of looking worse then a lot of 12-year-old travel teams ND would have had less runs and GBS would have had more, therefore the score would have been very different and the close calls less important. For example Trevor Stevens, the GBS second baseman and one of the team's better defensive players had a double play ground ball go off him and into centerfield. That play lead to two ND later in the inning and forced GBS to pull its pitcher at the time. GBS also misplayed the last out of an inning at one point with a man on third that allowed NDs 4th run to score and made the game 4-4 at the time. I'm not saying that you can't say the umps calls didn't make a difference I'm just saying that they might not have had to. Also I think that the GBS kids deserve credit for what they did. Twice in the game they were down and came back to take the lead, they could have just packed it in either time. They could have packed it in when their pitchers couldn't throw strikes or fielders couldn't make play. Yet they didn't they kept playing never gave up and got hits and outs when they needed it. I have no idea what will happen to this team the rest of the way, but I was proud as a former player at the way that GBS's team represented the program and the school on Saturday.
Hooperhop,
I talked with a couple folks about Carlson I hear he's either 6-4 or 7-4. I don't that GBS really has a number 1 or 2 pitcher. Carlson and Geldermann are pretty even from what I can tell. I know Steiner started the game at Benet, but I think that was his only start, I believe he has been one used out of pen all year. Also good luck to GBN vs New Trier, I rooting for an all District 225 sectional final.
I talked with a couple folks about Carlson I hear he's either 6-4 or 7-4. I don't that GBS really has a number 1 or 2 pitcher. Carlson and Geldermann are pretty even from what I can tell. I know Steiner started the game at Benet, but I think that was his only start, I believe he has been one used out of pen all year. Also good luck to GBN vs New Trier, I rooting for an all District 225 sectional final.
With what seems to be GBS's apprent lack of pitching it sounds like they've done a pretty could job winning as much as they have. That being said I think that it sounds like a good bet to take Loyola in that game given their pitching depth.
When is the elk grove game and if you know, do you also know if copeland is pitching??? i havent got a chance to see him yet and i would really like too...ryan maybe you could help me out with this info?
I still insist that home plate ump has something against ND-Way too much coincidences going on. Ok Seriously now, I'm not saying another word about this publicly. If anyone wants to bring it on privately, go right ahead. Get back to actual baseball topics until the umps tell us we should do otherwise.
LPbaseball Ryan Copeland(11-0) just pitched against Buffalo Grove on Saturday with a complete game and so now our number 2 pitcher Will Osmanski(9-2) will be throwing against #17 seed St. Viator...people have taken viator lightly but we know who they have beaten this year such as Joliet Catholic so no game is taken lightly and if Osmanski gets in trouble and the game is close Copeland will come in on relief...we have confidence in our number 2 tho...
Elk Grove 4
St. Viator 3
Elk Grove advances to the sectional championship game vs. either Prospect or Maine South who play tomorrow 4:30 @ Alexian Field
St. Viator 3
Elk Grove advances to the sectional championship game vs. either Prospect or Maine South who play tomorrow 4:30 @ Alexian Field
St. Rita 7
Morton 4
Morton 4
prospect 5
maine south 0
maine south 0
Naperville Central 1
Batavia 0
8 innings.
Batavia 0
8 innings.