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MomLW posted:

I am really excited for the season to start...

Roll call...

I have a 2019 catcher on high school varsity.  Won State last year, now "rebuilding."  A lot of new starters this year.  First game against another school on 2/23.  What about the rest of you?

 

I have a 2020 C, RHP, OF on JV, first game is tomorrow

Youngest son is a 2017 and one of only 2 returning starters, so it looks like a rebuilding year, but you never know. With promising younger guys and older guys who'll finally get their chance, maybe they can surprise everyone and win league for 3rd time over my son's 4 years on the team.  It'll be fun no matter what -- unless the season gets wiped out by the continuing deluge hitting the left coast.

Oldest (2017) and second oldest (2019) are on Varsity together, which if only for convenience sake is great, since 7th grader is playing for the school's intermediate team now, too.  Lots of seniors on vars but not much depth and our pitching is suspect, so we'll see.  1-1 so far in preseason tournament games, and have another tournament this weekend.

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2018 catcher/infield.  Several Srs. in front of him, but he "ain't sitting."   Old coach quit.  Didn't find new coach until Dec.  Conference shake up -- smaller schools gone.  Now play 3 game series in one of the toughest baseball conferences.  New pitching rules -- not enough pitchers.  Might be a struggle.  Should be interesting.

2020 P/IF on JV.  Played 3rd scrimmage last night. (Played at Deer Park HS, Andy Pettitte's old school.  Thanks Andy for the wonderful field).  No kid has pitched more than one inning, lots of rotation in the field. To be 15 again, hanging with your teammates, bus rides across town, getting to play baseball.  Definitely having fun.

Will catch some varsity games if we can.  District has the number one and five preseason teams in Texas in largest class.  Should be some good baseball.

Season starts March 13th. Coach is in his 3 year with only two wins so far. So no expectations to say the least. Hopefully son can miss enough bats this year to get a few wins. He's a 2019 and a returning starter so he's a lot more relaxed not being the new kid. I'm just hoping his arm feels good heading into summer ball lol. At least we have a couple stud players in our district that will be fun to watch. 

After taking off last spring and missing the program's implosion, my 2017 is back with the team and trying to help get it heading back in the right direction.

It's not a young team, but most of the players have limited experience at the varsity level.  My son was elected team captain, and he is trying to set an example of how things should be done as opposed to how they had been done for the last couple of years.

Most of all he is looking to have fun this season, regardless of the record.

My 2017 had their first scrimmage last night with our second scrimmage coming up on Friday against the team we beat to win CIF-CCS last year.  We lost our stud to UCLA but we are returning 12 seniors/Juniors that were either starters or saw significant playing time last year.  Of those -- 6 are D1 commits, 2 have D1 walk-on spots, and 3 are set to play for quality D3 programs.  The boys are hoping for a 3-peat for the CCS championship.  

Regardless -- just  going to enjoy watching my son play out his last year in high school. Watching game be streamed over the Internet next year won't be nearly as much fun. 

2019 LHP/1b on varsity with 2 strong senior leaders but most of those expected to contribute will come from his sophomore class. These kids have won state titles in little league and county titles in middle school, so looking to make the state tournament this year in a year where it seems most schools had a big senior class last year and are rebuilding

2020Mom posted:

2020 LHP/1B with tryouts this Saturday unless the weatherman's prediction of heavy rain comes true!  Cannot wait for his first HS season no matter which team he ends up on.  First game scheduled on 2-28 so they don't have much time to select the team and get practicing.

Tell him to take a raincoat!

 

From here, BTW;  great blog if you like reading and/or knowing about weather.  http://weatherwest.com/

Tryouts next week, but 2017 still playing in playoffs of his winter sport.  Returning numerous (more than needed for a line up) seniors, but none but ours will be going on to play collegiately, most should not even start but our coach is sentimental for the seniors.  We should have 3-4 sophomores, 1 freshman and 1 junior starting in the field, but it will probably be 7/8 seniors.  The underclassmen may not even make varsity despite being better. Come on coach, I want to win my son's last year!

 

 

 

CaCO3Girl posted:
Metsman79 posted:

This is my son's senior year.  He set the single season homerun record for his school last year (10).  Hopefully he can top that this year and the team wins some games.  We don't start practices in NJ until March 3rd.

Wow, JV is over on 3/31 in GA. Tryouts were the week of 1/16

Tryouts don't start here in NY until 3/13 - they won't have their first game until your JV season is over.  This will be my first year without a son on our HS team in 5 years as 2016 has gone off to school and my 2020 will be playing Lacrosse.  He was on the fence about trying out for JV baseball and then the hoops coach (who also coaches Lax) convinced him they really needed some big kids on defense on lax.  At 6'2" and 200lbs as of yesterday's physical he'll be the largest kid on lax by far.   

2018 RHP in Nebraska.  It is 70 degrees today and I am dying to be at the field.  But alas, tryouts don't start until 2/27 and first game 3/16.  At which point it will be back to 45.  Son is top returning pitcher on varsity.  It's kind of nice this year that there is no nervousness about which team he will be on.  Coach is grooming him to lead this year and next.  Hopefully he is up to the challenge.  Very excited to see this season play out.  His team will be very young but much improved.  The talent level is much higher than it has been for probably 5 years.  And even though they are young there are 7 returning starters from last year's varsity team.  Only 1 of which is a senior this year.  Jealous of all of you who get to watch your sons already.  But it won't be long and we'll be off and running till August.

California.  We don't do rain well.  This is shaping up to be the wettest winter on record.  EVER.  More in the forecast every day between now and next Wednesday.  I'm sitting at my office desk, looking out the window, watching the sideways wind and rain lift the entire corner of the roof of the large industrial building next door.  Our lone scrimmage is scheduled for Friday and we start league the following Tuesday.  I think we've been on our field a total of two full days and may not get on it again before first game.  

This only happens here every... , well, never, so we don't have "alternative" covered facilities.  One gym and that is reserved this time of year for boys VB and local rec basketball.   We're gonna walk thru 1st/3rd offense and defense today in a classroom or in my living room .  Could be an ugly start.  That's OK.  I just hope we GET to start.

Just so bizarre... 3 months ago, we feared that if we didn't get significant rain, the six year drought would reach epic proportions.  Today, we fear that if we get any more significant rain, the flooding and mud slides can reach epic proportions.

Good luck, everyone.  

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2017 and 2019 had their second game together tonight, and second win.  Seniors starting 5-7 positions depending on Coach's decisions.  2017 starting in left so far this year was 1-2 with a stolen base and run scored. 2019 Dh'd tonight and made good contact, so we'll see if that lasts.  Games tomorrow and Monday (Preseason tournament), then opening league play next Friday night on TV against arch rivals.  Things are heating up.

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Here in Seattle suburb, tryout will start 2/27. Weather doesn't look too promising, but that's expected.

Our high school's tryout is interesting. After 3 day tryout, Freshmen team will be set, but JV and V will have a combined roster of 30-35. JV and V will take practice together the rest of the week. On Saturday 3/4, they'll split the team into two and do a scrimmage. After that, the JV and V roster will be decided.

Any other schools doing this kind of elaborate tryouts?

Yesterday I drove an hour and a half to the team's first scrimmage, which started 2 hours late and lasted 11 innings. It was cloudy, wet, and cold, and I was too stupid to bring enough layers, so I was numb for hours after getting home. The team played just OK and my 2017 looked rusty. 

And still, I woke up this morning thinking yeah, that was great, let's get out there again!

Weather has been shorts/ t shirt weather here too. Gotta love the southeast (until the summer anyway)

We are 4 scrimmages deep into the season. One more today, then the regular season starts first week of March. Down to the coast for a tournament the second week of March. Hopefully the nice weather holds out. My 2018 is the incumbent starting first baseman. His team has won their district the past two seasons, but we bumped up to a higher classification this year, and while we are still very talented, we are very young on the infield (JR ,Soph, Soph, Fresh). Our pitching is going to require strong infield defense, so if they can hold up, we might be pretty good. We are strong offensively top to bottom, so I could see us winning a bunch of 10-8 games. I guess we'll see though....

We started tryouts yesterday. My son didnt sleep all Sunday. His friends were over and they were jacked also. They cant wait to get on the field again. Weather here has been very nice.  Should be nice all week  for first live scimmage game Saturday!!

Cant wait to watch my boy play again.....Trying to slow things down and really enjoy the last two years

2020 C/LF-  Still in winter workouts.  Tryouts first Monday in March.  He actually has a travel game this Friday night under the lights!  He is not the biggest kid in the world at 5'6 130 but his pop time is down already this spring to a 2.2's.  Receiving skills are outstanding.. Blocks like a maniac.

We only lost 3 seniors last year and went a few games into the district tournament ( I believe).  One of the lost was a pitcher who was selected 11th overall by LA.  So I am not sure if the team was successful or if it was all pitching that got us that far.

Excited for his first HS game!  Not sure when I will do once he stops playing ball whether its in HS, College or what ever level.  Love watching him play!

Kevin A posted:

2020 C/LF-  Still in winter workouts.  Tryouts first Monday in March.  He actually has a travel game this Friday night under the lights!  He is not the biggest kid in the world at 5'6 130 but his pop time is down already this spring to a 2.2's.  Receiving skills are outstanding.. Blocks like a maniac.

We only lost 3 seniors last year and went a few games into the district tournament ( I believe).  One of the lost was a pitcher who was selected 11th overall by LA.  So I am not sure if the team was successful or if it was all pitching that got us that far.

Excited for his first HS game!  Not sure when I will do once he stops playing ball whether its in HS, College or what ever level.  Love watching him play!

Welcome to the HSBaseballweb, Kevin A!!!

bacdorslider posted:

Yes the same team....

No pressure, Coach! LoL 

Our top four pitchers are ACC, SEC, Big Ten (2018) & a top ten DII (two-way player) who had D1 offers. 

We also have three freshmen and sophomores starting on varsity. So, it's an interesting mixture of experience and youth.

The veteran staff has a 23 inning scoreless streak but we'll get tested this weekend in New Orleans. 

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bacdorslider posted:

Yes the same team....

Jeez.  Seems like some of the schools around here.  We're walking into battle with a grand zero signees.

The only upside is that we are a "big" school so we don't have to face Archbishop McCarthy and American Heritage. We're also not a "biggest" school, so we get to avoid Flannigan and Stoneman Douglas.

Glad to be in the sweet spot, because those teams are just brutal.

Rob T posted:
bacdorslider posted:

Yes the same team....

Jeez.  Seems like some of the schools around here.  We're walking into battle with a grand zero signees.

The only upside is that we are a "big" school so we don't have to face Archbishop McCarthy and American Heritage. We're also not a "biggest" school, so we get to avoid Flannigan and Stoneman Douglas.

Glad to be in the sweet spot, because those teams are just brutal.

That's the way it is for 2017's team too.  They have zero D1 commits and their top league rival has 5.  They also have tough non-league games and likely will face a potential high draft choice RHP in one of those.  Fortunately they play the game between the lines not on paper, so there may be some surprises.  And it's good to be the underdog - you have nothing to lose!

JCG posted:
Rob T posted:
bacdorslider posted:

Yes the same team....

Jeez.  Seems like some of the schools around here.  We're walking into battle with a grand zero signees.

The only upside is that we are a "big" school so we don't have to face Archbishop McCarthy and American Heritage. We're also not a "biggest" school, so we get to avoid Flannigan and Stoneman Douglas.

Glad to be in the sweet spot, because those teams are just brutal.

That's the way it is for 2017's team too.  They have zero D1 commits and their top league rival has 5.  They also have tough non-league games and likely will face a potential high draft choice RHP in one of those.  Fortunately they play the game between the lines not on paper, so there may be some surprises.  And it's good to be the underdog - you have nothing to lose!

Son's schools Varsity squad has 3 D1 (two Sr one Jr) committed OF starters and 1 D1 committed substitute (Jr), 1 D1 committed (power 5 and draftable) IF, 2-3 more IF that will commit after the season to D1 schools, and then we have 4 committed D1 pitchers. 

Try cracking that roster!

JCG posted:
Rob T posted:
bacdorslider posted:

Yes the same team....

Jeez.  Seems like some of the schools around here.  We're walking into battle with a grand zero signees.

The only upside is that we are a "big" school so we don't have to face Archbishop McCarthy and American Heritage. We're also not a "biggest" school, so we get to avoid Flannigan and Stoneman Douglas.

Glad to be in the sweet spot, because those teams are just brutal.

That's the way it is for 2017's team too.  They have zero D1 commits and their top league rival has 5.  They also have tough non-league games and likely will face a potential high draft choice RHP in one of those.  Fortunately they play the game between the lines not on paper, so there may be some surprises.  And it's good to be the underdog - you have nothing to lose!

..except when you are the coach... and you do lose.

We had a major "roll over" with our roster for a variety of reasons going into last year.  We ended up with the youngest V team I have ever seen on a field.  Competed.  Lost a lot of 1-run games.  Didn't know how to close the deal.  Ended up a game below .500 and a game out of playoffs for the first time in a very long time.  If any neutral party looked at the roster, they would consider us the underdogs.  Yet, there were several camps that were muttering about us "under-performing".

We've been winning for a lot of years and we had one high profile returning P, so everyone just expected us to keep rolling... with two freshmen and six sophomores, most of whom had not played an inning of V baseball, typically in the starting mix. 

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Rob T posted:
bacdorslider posted:

Yes the same team....

Jeez.  Seems like some of the schools around here.  We're walking into battle with a grand zero signees.

The only upside is that we are a "big" school so we don't have to face Archbishop McCarthy and American Heritage. We're also not a "biggest" school, so we get to avoid Flannigan and Stoneman Douglas.

Glad to be in the sweet spot, because those teams are just brutal.

Even those school names reek of studliness.

San Diego and Shuler -- goodness are you teams stacked ...  thought we were doing ok with the four D1 infielders (UCLA, Frenso, Baylor, St Marys) and two D1 outfielders (USF and St Marys) and two D1 level pitchers going to D3 route for academics.  

V happy to see the rain finally stop here CA -- we finally got our second scrimmage in last night against the team we faced in CCS finals last night.  My 2017 threw an inning and did well.  Season starts Friday...  I really love baseball. 

I'm astonished at the amount of stacked teams here.  My son's team has no one committed anywhere.  3 seniors total and one will only make it because we are down 2 catchers due to injury/health reasons.  We have what we consider to be a stacked junior class with probably 2 kids with D1 potential and 10 more with college potential.  And we are thrilled with that. 

2018 LHP/OF will be starting his 2nd varsity season on Monday 2/27. Forecasters are calling for more snow starting on Friday. Fingers crossed it doesn't stick. It's been a rough winter for these parts. Games start the middle of March, but I'm really look forward to our Spring Break trip to Arizona at the end of March. We get to watch some high school baseball and my Cubbies play in Spring training. We seem to be perpetually rebuilding. We are not a strong baseball school, but we have some talented individuals. We only have a couple seniors committed to colleges. We are hoping to qualify for playoffs, which hasn't happened in years.

MAM posted:

San Diego and Shuler -- goodness are you teams stacked ...  thought we were doing ok with the four D1 infielders (UCLA, Frenso, Baylor, St Marys) and two D1 outfielders (USF and St Marys) and two D1 level pitchers going to D3 route for academics.  

V happy to see the rain finally stop here CA -- we finally got our second scrimmage in last night against the team we faced in CCS finals last night.  My 2017 threw an inning and did well.  Season starts Friday...  I really love baseball. 

My son is a freshman and although he loves his travel ball teammates, there's something special about the boys being around each other (school, clubhouse/locker room, bus trips) everyday. 

They even had breakfast together at Cracker Barrel (no school) and then all went to a teammates house Monday before they played. 

MAM posted:

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V happy to see the rain finally stop here CA -- we finally got our second scrimmage in last night against the team we faced in CCS finals last night.  My 2017 threw an inning and did well.  Season starts Friday...  I really love baseball. 

Yeah, we're in Calif and have been seriously hampered by the rains.  It finally stopped Monday, ready to finally get on the field yesterday (Wednesday), only a SLIGHT chance of scattered showers.  I swear, a single big old cloud hovered the ballpark just before practice, hammered us with a HAIL shower and then just absolutely dumped for ten minutes...  full blue skies and sunshine as far as one could see in all directions except straight up.

It will be a few more days before we step on that mud puddle.  Should be good to go by Saturday.  First league game Tuesday.  Forecast for more rain Sunday/Monday.   

Golfman25 posted:

2018 catcher/infield.  Several Srs. in front of him, but he "ain't sitting."   Old coach quit.  Didn't find new coach until Dec.  Conference shake up -- smaller schools gone.  Now play 3 game series in one of the toughest baseball conferences.  New pitching rules -- not enough pitchers.  Might be a struggle.  Should be interesting.

And away we go. Tryouts start today.  Will be warm enough for the boys to get outside.  

kandkfunk posted:

2018 LHP/OF will be starting his 2nd varsity season on Monday 2/27. Forecasters are calling for more snow starting on Friday. Fingers crossed it doesn't stick. It's been a rough winter for these parts.

KK, not sure if your area snowed or not, but we woke up to 2 inches of snow today morning. Fortunately temperature raised to above 36 gradually and snow stopped, so tryout probably will happen; not sure if they can, or should, throw as hard in such low temperature though.

2020 C/LF in PA

Well its here!  After weeks of voluntaries in the am and pm (sometimes both) tryouts are Monday!

My son has been catching a ton.  A few of the catchers have had to catch but T has been in the gear it seems every time they pitch.  They put the stud pitcher on him this week and he handled him pretty good he said.  Rumor has it he may have a chance of making Varsity as the second catcher which has him stoked.  Id rather him play JV and start every game down there.  But I don't make the calls so we will go with what ever happens.  Just stoked to get started with the tryouts on Monday!

Hopefully there are some good seniors on the team that can teach the underclassmen the finer points of  how a HS team works!

Kevin A posted:

2020 C/LF in PA

Well its here!  After weeks of voluntaries in the am and pm (sometimes both) tryouts are Monday!

My son has been catching a ton.  A few of the catchers have had to catch but T has been in the gear it seems every time they pitch.  They put the stud pitcher on him this week and he handled him pretty good he said.  Rumor has it he may have a chance of making Varsity as the second catcher which has him stoked.  Id rather him play JV and start every game down there.  But I don't make the calls so we will go with what ever happens.  Just stoked to get started with the tryouts on Monday!

Hopefully there are some good seniors on the team that can teach the underclassmen the finer points of  how a HS team works!

Oh, yeah, don't you worry.  You can count on the seniors teaching the underclassmen a thing or two. 

Uggh. Season starts Saturday. My 2018 will be sidelined (from the mound, at least, for maybe 2-3 weeks) with some back pain while he goes through traction therapy for a very slight bulging disc. Just found out yesterday that my #2 pitcher - and 2-hole hitter/3B - is academically ineligible and, because Spring Break starts Monday - won't be able to do anything about it for three weeks. 

Season is off and running but a little worried about run support.  2017 threw a very efficient 8 scoreless innings with zero walks (94 pitches - 27 batters - only 5 KO's strangely) - but ended up losing in 9th (2017 did not come out to pitch the 9th).  He told them at the start (jokingly) that he needed only 1 run, but it was not in the cards.

Big weekend with DH Friday and Saturday (Senior Day) but could be battling rain.

roothog66 posted:

Uggh. Season starts Saturday. My 2018 will be sidelined (from the mound, at least, for maybe 2-3 weeks) with some back pain while he goes through traction therapy for a very slight bulging disc. Just found out yesterday that my #2 pitcher - and 2-hole hitter/3B - is academically ineligible and, because Spring Break starts Monday - won't be able to do anything about it for three weeks. 

Ugh indeed!  What does it take in your district to be academically ineligible? 

CaCO3Girl posted:
roothog66 posted:

Uggh. Season starts Saturday. My 2018 will be sidelined (from the mound, at least, for maybe 2-3 weeks) with some back pain while he goes through traction therapy for a very slight bulging disc. Just found out yesterday that my #2 pitcher - and 2-hole hitter/3B - is academically ineligible and, because Spring Break starts Monday - won't be able to do anything about it for three weeks. 

Ugh indeed!  What does it take in your district to be academically ineligible? 

Failing two courses. Grades can be evaluated on a weekly or semester basis (school has to pick one).

Bogeyorpar posted:
kandkfunk posted:

2018 LHP/OF will be starting his 2nd varsity season on Monday 2/27. Forecasters are calling for more snow starting on Friday. Fingers crossed it doesn't stick. It's been a rough winter for these parts.

KK, not sure if your area snowed or not, but we woke up to 2 inches of snow today morning. Fortunately temperature raised to above 36 gradually and snow stopped, so tryout probably will happen; not sure if they can, or should, throw as hard in such low temperature though.

Luckily we dodged the snow last week, but got hit yesterday. It was a warm snow though and didn't impact school or practice. I'm so ready for the sun.

roothog66 posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
roothog66 posted:

Uggh. Season starts Saturday. My 2018 will be sidelined (from the mound, at least, for maybe 2-3 weeks) with some back pain while he goes through traction therapy for a very slight bulging disc. Just found out yesterday that my #2 pitcher - and 2-hole hitter/3B - is academically ineligible and, because Spring Break starts Monday - won't be able to do anything about it for three weeks. 

Ugh indeed!  What does it take in your district to be academically ineligible? 

Failing two courses. Grades can be evaluated on a weekly or semester basis (school has to pick one).

Same in GA. When I was a kid I could have sworn it was "passing ALL courses".

My son was ineligible to play his Sophomore year.  Was a shame, because he was the one piece they needed to win.  The team made it to the North 2 Group 2 sectional final here in NJ in 2015 and lost.  The next year his Junior year he broke the single season record for homeruns at his school (10) and finished 2nd in the state and also was in the top 5 in RBIs (37) in the state while also batting .455.  This is his Senior year now.

Metsman79 posted:

My son was ineligible to play his Sophomore year.  Was a shame, because he was the one piece they needed to win.  The team made it to the North 2 Group 2 sectional final here in NJ in 2015 and lost.  The next year his Junior year he broke the single season record for homeruns at his school (10) and finished 2nd in the state and also was in the top 5 in RBIs (37) in the state while also batting .455.  This is his Senior year now.

Curious... was he ineligible due to grades or behavior?  If so, was being ineligible a "light bulb" moment for him?

roothog66 posted:

Colorado - 19 games. Upped from 18 in the past. Funny thing is that even as late as the playoffs, we can be dodging snow and attending games in full coats.

Ouch!

Our state c'ship series is a doubleheader on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend and the if game on Memorial Day. By then, it will be 90+ degrees here. 

My 2017 picked up his first "official" varsity win last night.

Since the beginning, he has always been the team's closer - so opportunities for a win aren't common.

Since the pitching staff is a little rough this season, the closer role has expanded to a "couple innings if it is a close game" role.

Last night he came in with the bases loaded and 2 out in the 5th in a tie game, because the starter had hit the pitch limit.  He got a pop up to get out of that, then struck out the side in the 6th. The infield tried to give away the game with 3 straight ground ball errors to load the bases with no outs in the top of the 7th.  Finally managed to get it right on the next ground ball and turned a double play. Followed that with a strikeout to get out with only giving up one run. Offense came through with 2 runs in the bottom, and so he picks up the W.

Rob T posted:

My 2017 picked up his first "official" varsity win last night.

Since the beginning, he has always been the team's closer - so opportunities for a win aren't common.

Since the pitching staff is a little rough this season, the closer role has expanded to a "couple innings if it is a close game" role.

Last night he came in with the bases loaded and 2 out in the 5th in a tie game, because the starter had hit the pitch limit.  He got a pop up to get out of that, then struck out the side in the 6th. The infield tried to give away the game with 3 straight ground ball errors to load the bases with no outs in the top of the 7th.  Finally managed to get it right on the next ground ball and turned a double play. Followed that with a strikeout to get out with only giving up one run. Offense came through with 2 runs in the bottom, and so he picks up the W.

Nice - congrats!

hshuler posted:

We have gotten 11 games in and region play started this week. 

In Georgia, you're allowed 30 regular season games. How many regular seasons games are allowed in your states?

In our section of California, it's 20 but with many loopholes regarding tourneys and double headers.  The result is usually 28-30 plus playoffs.

Metsman79 posted:

He was ineligible due to grades.  He's a good kid, just not very motivated in school.  He gets by now, but I still get on his case about grades.  Would be great if he gets drafted but if not he's committed to playing with a nationally ranked JUCO team next year. 

That's awesome.  Don't give up on pushing the importance of grades and other non-baseball interests.  The baseball thing can end in a flash... and usually does.  Then what?  

Say he's good enough to get drafted (elite company), spends a few years in the minors and doesn't quite make it over that last hump.  Then what?

Welcome to the site.

Our schedule has 29 games right now plus whatever tournament runs, districts, and state.  I think we have to have 25 before districts.  I know there is a minimum but not sure what that number is.  We start next Thursday assuming this snow isn't terrible.  The forecast is upper 50s so that will be fine provided we don't have a bunch of snow making the field soggy. 

They had a scrimmage tonight but my son didn't play due to rolling his ankle in gym class this morning.  Had it been a real game they would have taped him up and played.  Super excited about the team.  Pitching depth looks really good.  Lots of young talent.  Coach says the current crop of juniors could be his best group ever.  Can't wait to get going.

Having this debate with some friends...would appreciate others weighing in.  Saw a game last night where a JV pitcher, in 10th grade, was throwing 85+mph.  At the end of the 4th inning he had thrown 78 pitches....they brought him back for the 5th inning, and he ended that with 90 pitches and he didn't start the 6th inning.  Final stats on him were 90 pitches, 53 strikes, 20 batters faced.  7 strikeouts, 4 walks.

Is 90 pitches too much for JV in your opinion?

Question really isn't whether he is JV or not or 10th grade or 12th.

How long has he been training? I'm in PA and we haven't had a game yet. I know my son tells me when he's catching pitchers and I was surprised they weren't doing more to prep pitchers. So for us I would say it's a lot cause I know the limited throwing they have been doing.

There's schools in GA that are apparently 7-8 + games into it. Warmer climate states get started a ton earlier than us.

At face value it can seem like a lot early but details really do matter.

IMO.

No, not too many. Hell, I have seen kids who are ranked in the top 10 players in the 2019 class go 120 pitches back when they were 12 years old (their own Dad coaching them) before. All depends on the kid. Now that we have the pitch count limits in HS you will see your teams try to get as many batters out as possible while throwing 90 pitches (max for Frosh and JV in San Diego Section). A lot of these kids are cruising when they hit the 90 pitch mark and get pulled. Kid we went up against yesterday (2020 playing JV) was sitting in mid 80s and had lost nothing on his FB or control when he got pulled due to pitch count in the 6th. Big kid, 6'2" 175. Our guy went all 7 innings on 87 pitches and the opponent was just starting to hit him in the 7th inning.

Kevin A posted:
Question really isn't whether he is JV or not or 10th grade or 12th.

How long has he been training? I'm in PA and we haven't had a game yet. I know my son tells me when he's catching pitchers and I was surprised they weren't doing more to prep pitchers. So for us I would say it's a lot cause I know the limited throwing they have been doing.

There's schools in GA that are apparently 7-8 + games into it. Warmer climate states get started a ton earlier than us.

At face value it can seem like a lot early but details really do matter.

IMO.

Tryouts here were mid January.  This was their 10th game, season is over on 3/31.  No idea how much the kid has pitched prior to last night.

Agree with the last two posts that it is case by case - lots of variables to be considered.  Here's one that hasn't been brought up... JV teams are supposed to be developmental.  Most JV teams have at least seven or eight kids who have potential as P's (our current JV squad has ten we would like to look at).  It's always a challenge to find game innings to let them develop and get comfortable against live opponents when you only play two or three games a week.  That's much harder to do when you stretch your starters out six innings.

 

Kevin A posted:
Question really isn't whether he is JV or not or 10th grade or 12th.

How long has he been training? I'm in PA and we haven't had a game yet. I know my son tells me when he's catching pitchers and I was surprised they weren't doing more to prep pitchers. So for us I would say it's a lot cause I know the limited throwing they have been doing.

There's schools in GA that are apparently 7-8 + games into it. Warmer climate states get started a ton earlier than us.

At face value it can seem like a lot early but details really do matter.

IMO.

Yeah, with high school pitchers this is not a one-size-fits-all. With pros, they've spent the off-season working out and almost always enter spring training coming off of a break from pitching, so it makes a lot of sense to slowly ramp up the pitch counts. With a high school kid, he could have been gearing up for two months to be prepared to throw 90 pitches. Now, some kids enter the season coming off of another sport or with no throwing at all right before official practices. Those kids need to be babied along.

Here in Colorado, official practices - where you can mandate players show up - only started February 27, yet the season started yesterday. Additionally, basketball playoffs are still going on. You will literally have kids step on a field for the first time three games into the season. However, most of my pitching staff has been gearing up since the day after Christmas so they can be ready to step on the mound and go a max number of pitches. Our season is only 19 games. If I had to baby the arms - pitch count wise - ten games into the season, we'd be half way through the schedule.

As to JV, I'll agree that I don't see a lot of need in a kid going 90 pitches in what should be development for varsity. If I've got a kid that's a burgeoning stud pitching on JV, then I'm probably thinking more along the lines of holding his pitch count down so I have a good fresh arm for the varsity down the stretch if I need it.

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In agreement with roothog, if a kid isn't getting themselves prepared prior to the season to be able to step on the mound in game #1 and go the distance then in my opinion their off season regimine needs to change (roothog didn't exactly say that, to be fair). If a kid is a multi-sport athlete or coming off an injury, all bets are off. But a dedicated 1-sport baseball athlete has no excuse to not be in shape for the start of the season.

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cabbagedad posted:

Agree with the last two posts that it is case by case - lots of variables to be considered.  Here's one that hasn't been brought up... JV teams are supposed to be developmental.  Most JV teams have at least seven or eight kids who have potential as P's (our current JV squad has ten we would like to look at).  It's always a challenge to find game innings to let them develop and get comfortable against live opponents when you only play two or three games a week.  That's much harder to do when you stretch your starters out six innings.

 

But part of development is pushing the endurance, no?  Under most states rules he'll be down for the next 3-4 days.  So assuming another game or two in that period (we will average 4-5 games per week) there are innings for the others.  

So given that it's the end of their season, relatively warm, I'd say 90 is ok.  

Golfman25 posted:
cabbagedad posted:

Agree with the last two posts that it is case by case - lots of variables to be considered.  Here's one that hasn't been brought up... JV teams are supposed to be developmental.  Most JV teams have at least seven or eight kids who have potential as P's (our current JV squad has ten we would like to look at).  It's always a challenge to find game innings to let them develop and get comfortable against live opponents when you only play two or three games a week.  That's much harder to do when you stretch your starters out six innings.

 

But part of development is pushing the endurance, no?  Under most states rules he'll be down for the next 3-4 days.  So assuming another game or two in that period (we will average 4-5 games per week) there are innings for the others.  

So given that it's the end of their season, relatively warm, I'd say 90 is ok.  

If we averaged 4-5 games per week, it would be an entirely different story.  But, like I said, we only play two or three (two more often than three).  A couple times a year, we will have a non-league DH added in.  So for those few weeks, we play 4 and it isn't a problem getting guys innings.  But those are exceptions.  With ten guys we want to keep throwing, it becomes a difficult and delicate balance, particularly with the 2 game weeks.

With inevitable attrition, I'm usually more inclined to have my JV coach keep more guys throwing (thus fewer innings per) and arms plenty healthy and fresh rather than focus on just a few of the best only to lose them later to transfers, grades, girls, other sports, etc., and be stuck with under-developed guys.  We've been experimenting with a rotation that includes some intersquad work but it's tough to stick to regularly when there are always so many aspects of the game that need reviewed and practiced and some nights are game nights. 

Here in VA (60 miles south of DC) the forecast is iffy.  Right now projected to get 1-3", but if the storm shifts east it could be more snow or if west it would be less snow and more rain.  Either way any games scheduled for Monday and Tuesday will probably be postponed or cancelled.

South of us western NC is calling for 5-8" of snow.  North of DC on up through the NE will get walloped.  Typical Nor'easter.

MomLW posted:

Three games in, one rain out (last night), and headed out of state for four games Thursday and Friday.  Anyone here from Midlothian, Midway, Bryan or Stony Point schools in TX?

My 2019 plays for Stony Point - I take it you are from Bryant?  We're scuffling right now...we have the guys to have one of our top offenses in a long time but just can't seem to get the hits at the right time and have the arms but keep losing close games. District play starts this week against Round Rock so they better figure it out. I spoke briefly with the head coach yesterday and he feels we have a chance to win the district or go 0-12.  Nothing like knowing what you have...

Kevin A posted:

They just upgraded us to 18-24 + inches.

 

i mean...COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!!

We in the south don't appreciate you sending down your cold air either!  Last week we were in t-shirts when it touched 80, this week we aren't getting into the 50's, and the night games it might be 40's!  That is sub-arctic for us Georgia folks!

CaCO3Girl posted:
Kevin A posted:

They just upgraded us to 18-24 + inches.

 

i mean...COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!!

We in the south don't appreciate you sending down your cold air either!  Last week we were in t-shirts when it touched 80, this week we aren't getting into the 50's, and the night games it might be 40's!  That is sub-arctic for us Georgia folks!

Well, not sure how well you all will take this one, but our district rivalry game on Friday night had to be suspended in the 3rd inning because the plate umpire was suffering from heat stroke.

Heat stroke. In a night game. In March.

Rob T posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
Kevin A posted:

They just upgraded us to 18-24 + inches.

 

i mean...COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!!

We in the south don't appreciate you sending down your cold air either!  Last week we were in t-shirts when it touched 80, this week we aren't getting into the 50's, and the night games it might be 40's!  That is sub-arctic for us Georgia folks!

Well, not sure how well you all will take this one, but our district rivalry game on Friday night had to be suspended in the 3rd inning because the plate umpire was suffering from heat stroke.

Heat stroke. In a night game. In March.

Is he okay?

CaCO3Girl posted:
Kevin A posted:

They just upgraded us to 18-24 + inches.

 

i mean...COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!!

We in the south don't appreciate you sending down your cold air either!  Last week we were in t-shirts when it touched 80, this week we aren't getting into the 50's, and the night games it might be 40's!  That is sub-arctic for us Georgia folks!

We had a game canceled down your way once. You should remember March 13, 1993. Over a foot of snow in Atlanta shut down the season for a couple of weeks.

hshuler posted:
Rob T posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
Kevin A posted:

They just upgraded us to 18-24 + inches.

 

i mean...COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!!

We in the south don't appreciate you sending down your cold air either!  Last week we were in t-shirts when it touched 80, this week we aren't getting into the 50's, and the night games it might be 40's!  That is sub-arctic for us Georgia folks!

Well, not sure how well you all will take this one, but our district rivalry game on Friday night had to be suspended in the 3rd inning because the plate umpire was suffering from heat stroke.

Heat stroke. In a night game. In March.

Is he okay?

As far as I know.  You could tell he was laboring pretty bad for a few minutes before he called for the trainer.  They took him into the dugout and iced him down and called for paramedics.  When I left he was getting ready to be transported to the local hospital to be checked out.

He's not a young guy, which probably doesn't help.  Working a big field 2 man is a lot more work than people give credit for.

cabbagedad posted:
Golfman25 posted:
cabbagedad posted:

Agree with the last two posts that it is case by case - lots of variables to be considered.  Here's one that hasn't been brought up... JV teams are supposed to be developmental.  Most JV teams have at least seven or eight kids who have potential as P's (our current JV squad has ten we would like to look at).  It's always a challenge to find game innings to let them develop and get comfortable against live opponents when you only play two or three games a week.  That's much harder to do when you stretch your starters out six innings.

 

But part of development is pushing the endurance, no?  Under most states rules he'll be down for the next 3-4 days.  So assuming another game or two in that period (we will average 4-5 games per week) there are innings for the others.  

So given that it's the end of their season, relatively warm, I'd say 90 is ok.  

If we averaged 4-5 games per week, it would be an entirely different story.  But, like I said, we only play two or three (two more often than three).  A couple times a year, we will have a non-league DH added in.  So for those few weeks, we play 4 and it isn't a problem getting guys innings.  But those are exceptions.  With ten guys we want to keep throwing, it becomes a difficult and delicate balance, particularly with the 2 game weeks.

With inevitable attrition, I'm usually more inclined to have my JV coach keep more guys throwing (thus fewer innings per) and arms plenty healthy and fresh rather than focus on just a few of the best only to lose them later to transfers, grades, girls, other sports, etc., and be stuck with under-developed guys.  We've been experimenting with a rotation that includes some intersquad work but it's tough to stick to regularly when there are always so many aspects of the game that need reviewed and practiced and some nights are game nights. 

Cabbage makes great points and deals with a similar schedule.  We have a Freshman, JV, and VS team.  Preseason the coaches do I great job getting kids mound time.  Come conference time it gets hard to find mound time.  The same top 2 guys get the starts every week and go as deep as they can.  Than the #3 and sometimes #4 guy comes in to close.  That leaves another 4 or 5 pitchers looking for innings.  Even with the new pitch counts a solid 3 guys can cover 95% of the games.  

CaCO3Girl posted:

We in the south don't appreciate you sending down your cold air either!  Last week we were in t-shirts when it touched 80, this week we aren't getting into the 50's, and the night games it might be 40's!  That is sub-arctic for us Georgia folks!

That pales in comparison to what we in east central VA are getting at the moment.   Thanks to Stella, we are in the low-mid 30's with sleet and freezing rain.   Points north and west are far worse.   Was suppose to be opening game last night for the local HS.  Not!

I think we are cursed...  Son pitched like crap last night, but I guess everybody is entitled to an off day.

Anyway, here's the highlight of the night - 

Runner on first.  Lefty pitcher picks over and the runner was going on first move.  F3 attempts the throw to 2nd base to get the runner but.... for some reason the field ump has drifted right into the dirt and takes the throw to the side of the head.  Literally walked right into it. Not sure where he was going, but I know where he ended up - at the hospital with a concussion and stitches.

So now there are two games in a row suspended because of umpire illness/injury. I swear that has to be some sort of record.

My son said he is going to bring a liability waiver to the plate meeting at the next home game.

Rob T posted:

I think we are cursed...  Son pitched like crap last night, but I guess everybody is entitled to an off day.

Anyway, here's the highlight of the night - 

Runner on first.  Lefty pitcher picks over and the runner was going on first move.  F3 attempts the throw to 2nd base to get the runner but.... for some reason the field ump has drifted right into the dirt and takes the throw to the side of the head.  Literally walked right into it. Not sure where he was going, but I know where he ended up - at the hospital with a concussion and stitches.

So now there are two games in a row suspended because of umpire illness/injury. I swear that has to be some sort of record.

My son said he is going to bring a liability waiver to the plate meeting at the next home game.

Oh, that's horrible for the ump, but your son is really funny!

Rob T posted:

I think we are cursed...  Son pitched like crap last night, but I guess everybody is entitled to an off day.

Anyway, here's the highlight of the night - 

Runner on first.  Lefty pitcher picks over and the runner was going on first move.  F3 attempts the throw to 2nd base to get the runner but.... for some reason the field ump has drifted right into the dirt and takes the throw to the side of the head.  Literally walked right into it. Not sure where he was going, but I know where he ended up - at the hospital with a concussion and stitches.

So now there are two games in a row suspended because of umpire illness/injury. I swear that has to be some sort of record.

My son said he is going to bring a liability waiver to the plate meeting at the next home game.

Okay the waiver comment is hilarious...the ump walking into a throw not so much! These things do happen at games though. Last summer in two games these things happened while my son was up to bat.

1. Foul ball nailed the catcher in the side of the facemask...kid had to be removed too dizzy.

2. He hit back at the pitcher and somehow the kid threw up his free hand as he was trying to dive down and the ball got in between his fingers and split his hand...like truly split it down to the middle of his palm.

3. Long ball, CF dives, doesn't come up with ball but did break his wrist

4. Foul ball, nails the ump in the forearm, clean break. (And he was a REALLY good ump :- (

The games were back to back...we thought he was under a curse.

Two games scheduled, two games rained out. My 2018 son was slated to start both. Yesterday, we got all the way to the field (an hour bus ride away) and all the way through warm-ups and the game was called right as we were slated to start. It's a minor-league turf field, so there is dirt on the mound and around home plate. Radar clearly showed that there would be rain all day, so I'm not sure why we went through all the motions. Oh well. I'm sure we'll have a nice day at some point and he'll will get to throw. He may have to wait until June though. 

Rob T - you may have a hard time finding umpires for the rest of your games

hshuler posted:
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hshuler posted:

Game 18 tonight - 70 degrees - life is good!

P.S.  His son's team is 18-0....not that he would tell you that

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CaCO3Girl posted:
hshuler posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
hshuler posted:

Game 18 tonight - 70 degrees - life is good!

P.S.  His son's team is 18-0....not that he would tell you that

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Perplexed will do.

We're at 17, not 18 and I hope that you didn't put the kibosh on our winning streak. :-)

hshuler posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
hshuler posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
hshuler posted:

Game 18 tonight - 70 degrees - life is good!

P.S.  His son's team is 18-0....not that he would tell you that

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Perplexed will do.

We're at 17, not 18 and I hope that you didn't put the kibosh on our winning streak. :-)

You can choose to believe I had poor math skills OR that I was clairvoyant...congrats to your boys team on another well deserved win in a very competitive district!

CaCO3Girl posted:
hshuler posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
hshuler posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
hshuler posted:

Game 18 tonight - 70 degrees - life is good!

P.S.  His son's team is 18-0....not that he would tell you that

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We're at 17, not 18 and I hope that you didn't put the kibosh on our winning streak. :-)

You can choose to believe I had poor math skills OR that I was clairvoyant...congrats to your boys team on another well deserved win in a very competitive district!

Thanks!

It amazes me how much I see parents from our area complaining about high school Baseball on social media.  So and so isn't playing much, why did the coach do this or that, general complaints about the program.

Don't the parents realize the coaches see that stuff and it can reflect poorly on their kid?  Of course often the parents that complain the most have a kid with the range of a fire hydrant.  My wife & I are already dreading being around some of these parents and our kid is just an 8th grader.

3and2Fastball posted:

It amazes me how much I see parents from our area complaining about high school Baseball on social media.  So and so isn't playing much, why did the coach do this or that, general complaints about the program.

Don't the parents realize the coaches see that stuff and it can reflect poorly on their kid?  Of course often the parents that complain the most have a kid with the range of a fire hydrant.  My wife & I are already dreading being around some of these parents and our kid is just an 8th grader.

It's going to get worse as roles become defined and spots decrease.  We don't have a freshman team.  Just JV and VS.  A majority of upper class men dominate our JV team as far as players.  Our HS took 6 freshman this year.  All those 8th graders playing ball now, depending on whether or not there is a freshman team, won't make it next year.  Even if there is a freshman team, they wont be able to take all the kids.  Once parents start feeling that kind of heat, you will see plenty of negativity coming from parents.

After 4 years - it finally happened.

He had a couple of unsuccessful pinch hit appearances earlier in the season.  Last night he was in to relieve and the coach had burned the DH so the kid got an at bat...

A cutter that fooled him, but he got enough of a swing on it to send it to the fence.  Just beat the throw to third.

My wife in the background didn't even realize he was going up to bat because it's so rare. "..that's my son... "

Kevin A posted:
3and2Fastball posted:

It amazes me how much I see parents from our area complaining about high school Baseball on social media.  So and so isn't playing much, why did the coach do this or that, general complaints about the program.

Don't the parents realize the coaches see that stuff and it can reflect poorly on their kid?  Of course often the parents that complain the most have a kid with the range of a fire hydrant.  My wife & I are already dreading being around some of these parents and our kid is just an 8th grader.

It's going to get worse as roles become defined and spots decrease.  We don't have a freshman team.  Just JV and VS.  A majority of upper class men dominate our JV team as far as players.  Our HS took 6 freshman this year.  All those 8th graders playing ball now, depending on whether or not there is a freshman team, won't make it next year.  Even if there is a freshman team, they wont be able to take all the kids.  Once parents start feeling that kind of heat, you will see plenty of negativity coming from parents.

We also don't have a Freshman team.  JV took 10 freshman this year, to round out the 21 member JV roster!  Many of the travel ball parents started yapping....so and so is a bad seed he shouldn't have made....so and so doesn't hit half as well as MY kid why did he make it.

I'm actually friends with one of the 9th grade parents that didn't make the team, she didn't complain, but she was sad for her kid.  I told her she and her son dodged a bullet.  10 freshman, 21 games, combined 6 of those freshman saw less than 10 innings of play.  If her son was already on the bubble and had made it they would have paid so he could sit.

Better to sit the bench as a freshman and work hard and gain as spot in the future than to just get cut, though.

A majority of high school players that I've seen don't really work that hard at the game.  They barely do anything outside of team practices and if they do it is usually just some lazy batting practice.

The kids that do work really hard end up being the starters, the difference makers, and the ones that get a shot at continuing to play after high school.  It really is a pretty simple formula.

I would maintain that even in Baseball hotbeds, any kid with a reasonable amount of athletic talent can outwork their peers and at the very least be a role player on a high school team.  It is a matter of wanting it bad enough and good old fashioned work ethic.  And I just shake my head at the lazy kids, and the parents of lazy kids, who don't put in the work and then wonder why they sit the bench or get cut.

CaCO-

That's one thing I hate about travel ball.  ANYONE can put together a team and instantly someone's kid is hot stuff cause he is on a travel club.  Its almost like false hope.  

Big JV roster.

We did 18 with 7 freshman but one of those plays with the middle school team. Varsity is 17 players but a handful of the JV guys are double rostered.  With only two games in the books for JV we have a small sample to go off of.  But rumor has that our JV doesn't like to start Fresh.  T got the start on game 2 and 'should" get game 3 behind the plate.  Game two saw a fresh DH for my son (0-4 with two looking strike outs).  Another fresh got into the game at SS after we had a 10 lead. Another fresh started at third who has a strong arm but struggles with fielding it cleanly.  Big kid and is a cage monster but struggles mightily to put the ball into play.  So game two saw some freshman action.  Wasn't a strong team.  We will see how it plays out when we face better teams.

T was almost sad himself during cuts when kids he calls friends were cut. He is realistic but a few he said were pitching or playing good in his opinion.

3and2Fastball posted:

Better to sit the bench as a freshman and work hard and gain as spot in the future than to just get cut, though.

A majority of high school players that I've seen don't really work that hard at the game.  They barely do anything outside of team practices and if they do it is usually just some lazy batting practice.

The kids that do work really hard end up being the starters, the difference makers, and the ones that get a shot at continuing to play after high school.  It really is a pretty simple formula.

I would maintain that even in Baseball hotbeds, any kid with a reasonable amount of athletic talent can outwork their peers and at the very least be a role player on a high school team.  It is a matter of wanting it bad enough and good old fashioned work ethic.  And I just shake my head at the lazy kids, and the parents of lazy kids, who don't put in the work and then wonder why they sit the bench or get cut.

3and2, it was an interesting JV year for sure. I can honestly say I didn't see lazy kids.  There was some insanity going on...if it didn't work the first 5 times not sure why they are still trying it...and there was some inexperience in the coaching staff.  

A great coach can turn a mediocre team into a winning team.  A bad, but well meaning and confused, coach can have a lot of wonderful pieces but if he doesn't know how to use them the team doesn't do well.

3and2Fastball posted:

JV is about development.

You know for a fact that none of the kids were/are lazy?  Everyone of them is working on Baseball 3-4 times a week outside of team practices & games?  Working on swing mechanics and fielding techniques?

Nope, no outside baseball apart from the school.  Batting cages are open, they all had a code, but no travel ball and no private lessons from January-April.  Head coaches rules.

CaCO3Girl posted:
3and2Fastball posted:

JV is about development.

You know for a fact that none of the kids were/are lazy?  Everyone of them is working on Baseball 3-4 times a week outside of team practices & games?  Working on swing mechanics and fielding techniques?

Nope, no outside baseball apart from the school.  Batting cages are open, they all had a code, but no travel ball and no private lessons from January-April.  Head coaches rules.

Yeah, OK.  But my point is they need to put in the time on their own.  Not at Travel Ball or lessons, on their own, working on their hitting and fielding, getting their reps in outside of team practice.

A vast majority of the players that are playing high level D1 or getting drafted were doing that in high school.  They didn't get to where they did just from "talent".

It is one of the things that drives me crazy about high school players.  Here's just one example:  a friend of mine's son started on Varsity at Shortstop as a Junior, made a bunch of errors, got moved to right field.  Dad is complaining to me about how the kid doesn't get enough Grounders at practice and how could the coach expect him to do better if he isn't getting the practice reps.  

I'm thinking, well how many grounders are you hitting him after practice?  How bad does he want it?  Baseball is a skill sport, requires lots of reps.  Now as a Senior the kid is playing 1B

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3and2, some kids are just wonderful athletes.  They might get by without extra reps and still go D1.  Some kids will work on their game 20-30 hours a week and never get a sniff from a D1.

Whether or not a player is practicing 3-4 times a week, aside from their 15-20 hours of school practice per week isn't how I would define lazy.  Guess we all have different definitions.

CaCO3Girl posted:

3and2, some kids are just wonderful athletes.  They might get by without extra reps and still go D1.  Some kids will work on their game 20-30 hours a week and never get a sniff from a D1.

Whether or not a player is practicing 3-4 times a week, aside from their 15-20 hours of school practice per week isn't how I would define lazy.  Guess we all have different definitions.

Just about every contributing player in our program works on their game outside of school practice.  Our rosters are large.  There is just not enough time or man power to get enough reps in at school practice.  It took my son a couple of school seasons to understand his drop in performance during school ball was a reflection of his practice time.  Travel ball he would end the season much stronger than the beginning.  School ball he would start strong and drop off.  It took us a while to figure it out.  

Travel ball had 2 practices a week plus 2-3 weekend tournaments a month.  Off days he would get reps in the cage and at the field with a few friends or I would throw BP, hit grounders etc..  LOTS of REPS when you are only dealing a few guys or one on one.  

School ball 5-6 days week school practice and/or games.  All work outside of practice would stop.  He is getting plenty of work 5-6 days a week.  WRONG   Twenty man roster 2 coaches.  Games 2-3 days a week.  We started to look at how many reps was he getting during school ball and the reality was very LITTLE.  

Started spending extra time at the school getting in work and I was shocked at how many players were doing the same thing from throughout the program.  Guess what, it wasn't the kids sitting the bench.  They were key players.  D1 commits.  Underclassman VS starters.  Rarely would you see bubble kids.

 

There is a kid from around here named Corey Ray.  He is by what anyone would define as a natural athlete.  Coming out of high school he was a 6.7 sixty runner, fast twitch athlete, super quick.  Played for Louisville in college.  Drafted in the 1st Round, now in the Brewers organization.

That kid worked on Baseball all the time.  Could he have made it to D1 just on high school activities and travel ball experiences?  Probably, but no way would he have advanced as far as he did without a ton of extra work.

Look at Hunter Greene.  I bet if all Hunter did was team practices he'd still throw 90.  He is taking his game to another level.  Some kids want it more than others.

"Lazy" is relative.  Yeah, any kid playing high school Baseball is not lazy compared to the fat kid sitting on a couch eating Doritos.  And not every kid who works night & day is going to play D1 Baseball, but again my point is that any kid with a modest amount of athletic talent can work their way into having at least a role playing spot on a high school team.  It is how much they want to work at it.

And the work ethic is the reward, ultimately.  It carries over to the rest of life.

CaCO3Girl posted:
 
 

3and2, it was an interesting JV year for sure.... There was some insanity going on...if it didn't work the first 5 times not sure why they are still trying it...and there was some inexperience in the coaching staff.  

A great coach can turn a mediocre team into a winning team.  A bad, but well meaning and confused, coach can have a lot of wonderful pieces but if he doesn't know how to use them the team doesn't do well.

Caco, I'll give you a different perspective on JV and JV coaches... I know you have heard some version of this before.

As a V coach, top priority in placing a JV coach is that he can develop (and allow development) as many players as possible.  I set guidelines, depending on the year, like no P throws more than 4 IP in a week (so that we are developing at least 5-6 P's.  I want every player to get a start and 3 AB's at least every 3rd game.  Yes, the best players will get the most innings but I want it spread out.

The one thing that I can 100% count on with HS baseball is attrition between JV and V.  I will lose players to transfers, grades, girls, other sports, cars, jobs, parents, behavior issues, peer pressure, unsatisfied with PT/role, etc., etc.  Some will be the best players, the ones we envision as key contributors down the road.  As 3and2 mentioned, JV is largely for development for V.  If my JV coach is focused primarily on winning, which means he will likely focus on best 7-10 players, I could very well end up losing most of those by the time they can contribute to our V program.  Not good for the program.  I want the mentality to be development of every player and try to win with a set of PT parameters without feeling the need to alter those parameters when games are close.  Parents won't understand this.  But that's what the program needs him to do.  Kid is throwing a no hitter thru 4 IP and is fresh?  ... don't care, pull him and put in the next guy.  3 hitter is 3-3, due up next inning in a close game but it is his turn to take a seat in the rotation?  ... don't care, pull him and put in the next guy.  Win with the next guy.  Develop all who show any degree of potential.  Now, I do give some leeway but my experience is that if you give much leeway on this, the coach caves to the pressure to win that JV game and to not look stupid to the parents.  I'm not saying play the kids who flat out don't care or don't work hard enough to earn opportunity but DEVELOP and DEVELOP as deep as possible.

Also, I may see something in a kid, some combination of work ethic, throwing action, athleticism, swing, game awareness, whatever... that I think will play out down the road.  So, I ask JV coach to make sure he get's his share of innings even though his immediate results don't warrant.  Parents won't see that at all.  This will sound harsh, but I have a few kids this year that have shown me that they have the physical ability (a few of the "better jv players") but not the mental capacity to contribute for us later.  So, I cap their innings at JV.  Why take away PT from someone else that potentially may help us next year?  No way parents see or understand that.  And JV coach is not going to share this type of stuff with parents.

No idea of whether any of this applies at all to your situation but sometimes it's not always what it seems.

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Cabbage you can pm me if you want the whole story but needless to say it was a horrible year.  Most lived through it, some quit.  Kids lost faith pretty early on with contradictory instructions and instructions that made no sense, even if they were clarified, often times they weren't.

Major shake up across the Varisty coaching staff resulted in New JV coach, new JV assistant coach, new third coach.  None had worked with head coach, it was an unmitigated disaster. Both top coaches already said they won't be back next year, third coach will take over.

I would have been fine with your plan.  I expected your plan, what happened was very different.  Oh well, onto travel ball and try again next year with high school ball. 

3and2Fastball posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
3and2Fastball posted:

JV is about development.

You know for a fact that none of the kids were/are lazy?  Everyone of them is working on Baseball 3-4 times a week outside of team practices & games?  Working on swing mechanics and fielding techniques?

Nope, no outside baseball apart from the school.  Batting cages are open, they all had a code, but no travel ball and no private lessons from January-April.  Head coaches rules.

Yeah, OK.  But my point is they need to put in the time on their own.  Not at Travel Ball or lessons, on their own, working on their hitting and fielding, getting their reps in outside of team practice.

A vast majority of the players that are playing high level D1 or getting drafted were doing that in high school.  They didn't get to where they did just from "talent".

It is one of the things that drives me crazy about high school players.  Here's just one example:  a friend of mine's son started on Varsity at Shortstop as a Junior, made a bunch of errors, got moved to right field.  Dad is complaining to me about how the kid doesn't get enough Grounders at practice and how could the coach expect him to do better if he isn't getting the practice reps.  

I'm thinking, well how many grounders are you hitting him after practice?  How bad does he want it?  Baseball is a skill sport, requires lots of reps.  Now as a Senior the kid is playing 1B

My kid basically admits HS practice is essentially a waste of time.  Very inefficient.  So I agree you need to work on your game outside of practice.  I am just not sure when.  Monday thru Friday is school and then either a practice or game.  If practice he may be home by 6:30-7.  Game day will be after 8-8:30.  It's still getting dark by 7:30, so outside isn't doable, yet.  And weather is still an issue.  Getting to an indoor facility is expensive and closes at 9.  They don't let the kids stay at the high school -- everything is put away, locked up and they have to vacate.  So realistically, all you have is Saturday - after the game and Sunday.  We make due, but it's not like everyone has a practice facility outside their back door.  It's a challenge. 

We live in a cold weather state.  In our basement we can do hands progressions, simple glove/footwork reps, tags for middle infielders on steal attempts, catchers receiving & blocking drills, band work, double play footwork and transfers, pitcher's pickoff moves, drills for first baseman including footwork around the bag and receiving the ball on pickoff throws, underhand flip drills for MI's and 1B's, plus hitting drills including tee work and front toss with indoor nerf type balls.... In our backyard we can do all of that plus simple route work for outfielders, footwork on popups

The list is probably endless.  Point is, if there is a will there is a way.

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Golfman25 posted:
3and2Fastball posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:
3and2Fastball posted:

JV is about development.

You know for a fact that none of the kids were/are lazy?  Everyone of them is working on Baseball 3-4 times a week outside of team practices & games?  Working on swing mechanics and fielding techniques?

Nope, no outside baseball apart from the school.  Batting cages are open, they all had a code, but no travel ball and no private lessons from January-April.  Head coaches rules.

Yeah, OK.  But my point is they need to put in the time on their own.  Not at Travel Ball or lessons, on their own, working on their hitting and fielding, getting their reps in outside of team practice.

A vast majority of the players that are playing high level D1 or getting drafted were doing that in high school.  They didn't get to where they did just from "talent".

It is one of the things that drives me crazy about high school players.  Here's just one example:  a friend of mine's son started on Varsity at Shortstop as a Junior, made a bunch of errors, got moved to right field.  Dad is complaining to me about how the kid doesn't get enough Grounders at practice and how could the coach expect him to do better if he isn't getting the practice reps.  

I'm thinking, well how many grounders are you hitting him after practice?  How bad does he want it?  Baseball is a skill sport, requires lots of reps.  Now as a Senior the kid is playing 1B

My kid basically admits HS practice is essentially a waste of time.  Very inefficient.  So I agree you need to work on your game outside of practice.  I am just not sure when.  Monday thru Friday is school and then either a practice or game.  If practice he may be home by 6:30-7.  Game day will be after 8-8:30.  It's still getting dark by 7:30, so outside isn't doable, yet.  And weather is still an issue.  Getting to an indoor facility is expensive and closes at 9.  They don't let the kids stay at the high school -- everything is put away, locked up and they have to vacate.  So realistically, all you have is Saturday - after the game and Sunday.  We make due, but it's not like everyone has a practice facility outside their back door.  It's a challenge. 

It's funny how much you resent high school coaches. 

real green posted:
CaCO3Girl posted:

3and2, some kids are just wonderful athletes.  They might get by without extra reps and still go D1.  Some kids will work on their game 20-30 hours a week and never get a sniff from a D1.

Whether or not a player is practicing 3-4 times a week, aside from their 15-20 hours of school practice per week isn't how I would define lazy.  Guess we all have different definitions.

Just about every contributing player in our program works on their game outside of school practice.  Our rosters are large.  There is just not enough time or man power to get enough reps in at school practice.  It took my son a couple of school seasons to understand his drop in performance during school ball was a reflection of his practice time.  Travel ball he would end the season much stronger than the beginning.  School ball he would start strong and drop off.  It took us a while to figure it out.  

Travel ball had 2 practices a week plus 2-3 weekend tournaments a month.  Off days he would get reps in the cage and at the field with a few friends or I would throw BP, hit grounders etc..  LOTS of REPS when you are only dealing a few guys or one on one.  

School ball 5-6 days week school practice and/or games.  All work outside of practice would stop.  He is getting plenty of work 5-6 days a week.  WRONG   Twenty man roster 2 coaches.  Games 2-3 days a week.  We started to look at how many reps was he getting during school ball and the reality was very LITTLE.  

Started spending extra time at the school getting in work and I was shocked at how many players were doing the same thing from throughout the program.  Guess what, it wasn't the kids sitting the bench.  They were key players.  D1 commits.  Underclassman VS starters.  Rarely would you see bubble kids.

 

Yes, kid has 5:30 practices in the morning, and several of them are going in earlier and on weekends voluntarily to get more reps in the cages.  They want it that bad.

Leading up to the start of the season I didn't know what to expect from the kid or the team. The kid had an OK HS season last year. Lowest numbers but that was a combination of pitchers throwing around him and big strike zones. Summer ball was pretty bad. Him and the coach were not a fit and I'll leave it at that. He also fell in love for the first time. Great girl, great family, hard to complain but it distracted him from baseball. As for the team we lost ten seniors, so...

So as to the team first. 4-0, 48 RS, 4 RA. Granted we haven't seen a lights out pitcher yet but still, taking care of business when they should. I don't know how long they can keep this up but for the monument it's pretty impressive to watch.

As for the kid it's his senior year. No more girlfriend, back to baseball first. I won't quote stats, but I could. What I will say is it's nice to see the confidence and command at the plate again. Umps are also being a little more reasonable in regard to balls and strikes.

A couple of games ago we played a team that had a catcher the scouts are looking at. Were 6 or 7 of them at the game (one did contact son's coach to let him know he'd be there watching the kid). First at bat the kid hit a ball that went over the fence, the right of way, the road, the front yard, and landed on a roof. One of the scouts told a local collage coach the ball went 480'. IDK if that's the case. It wasn't the longest HR the kid has hit. It was however the longest he's hit in front of people that matter. 2 for 2 with 2 HR's and 3 walks isn't a bad stat line. Whats the saying, timing is everything.

SomeBaseballDad posted:

Leading up to the start of the season I didn't know what to expect from the kid or the team. The kid had an OK HS season last year. Lowest numbers but that was a combination of pitchers throwing around him and big strike zones. Summer ball was pretty bad. Him and the coach were not a fit and I'll leave it at that. He also fell in love for the first time. Great girl, great family, hard to complain but it distracted him from baseball. As for the team we lost ten seniors, so...

So as to the team first. 4-0, 48 RS, 4 RA. Granted we haven't seen a lights out pitcher yet but still, taking care of business when they should. I don't know how long they can keep this up but for the monument it's pretty impressive to watch.

As for the kid it's his senior year. No more girlfriend, back to baseball first. I won't quote stats, but I could. What I will say is it's nice to see the confidence and command at the plate again. Umps are also being a little more reasonable in regard to balls and strikes.

A couple of games ago we played a team that had a catcher the scouts are looking at. Were 6 or 7 of them at the game (one did contact son's coach to let him know he'd be there watching the kid). First at bat the kid hit a ball that went over the fence, the right of way, the road, the front yard, and landed on a roof. One of the scouts told a local collage coach the ball went 480'. IDK if that's the case. It wasn't the longest HR the kid has hit. It was however the longest he's hit in front of people that matter. 2 for 2 with 2 HR's and 3 walks isn't a bad stat line. Whats the saying, timing is everything.

Sounds like he's off to a great start! Best wishes on continued success. 

hshuler posted:

Sounds like he's off to a great start! Best wishes on continued success. 

Thanks.

Last night jumped on a team for 3 runs first inning, thought "here we go". Then came an hour rain delay and when play resumed we weren't the same team. Ended up winning 6-3, but it was 3-3 until late in the game and the thought crossed my mind I shot my mouth off on line and the first game after we lose, LOL.

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SomeBaseballDad posted:
hshuler posted:

Sounds like he's off to a great start! Best wishes on continued success. 

Thanks.

Last night jumped on a team for 3 runs first inning, thought "here we go". Then came an hour rain delay and when play resumed we weren't the same team. Ended up winning 6-3, but it was 3-3 until late in the game and the thought crossed my mind I shot my mouth off on line and the first game after we lose, LOL.

Congrats!

Colorado. We're closing in on the playoffs. 32 team format. First two rounds are single elimination in 8 pods. The winners move on to a double elimination tournament. We're still dodging snow. We moved our Friday game to today because 2-5" of snow is forecast for Friday. 

On a personal note, mys on gets the start in what is, in effect, the conference championship. It was supposed to be #1 vs. #2 in the state between two 15-1 teams before our bitter rivals fell twice last Saturday. Now it's #1 vs. #4. 

My 2018 has only recently returned to the mound. He'd been sidelined by a lower back problem we thought was due to a bulging disc. As it turned out, while he does have a slightly bulging disc it's nowhere near the pain. After some mechanics changes, the pain is gone and he's itching to go tonight. 

Funny story is that we recently switched chiropractors and he saw immediate improvement. But the story behind this guy tells a lot about what it's like to play in a small town atmosphere. The team we play tonight is our school's fiercest rival going back 100 years - La Junta, the next decent sized town over (about 75 miles away). The new chiropractor is the brother of Mike Oquist, former Orioles pitcher and his nephew, Mike's son, will be the starting pitcher against my 2018 tonight. So, when he put my son on the table, I had to ask the guy if we could trust him this week. Gotta love small town good, clean, old fashion hate.

LHP2017 posted:

We have played a full FIVE games here in Minnesota thus far  our hitting has definitely taken a while to get on track but we are getting there, pitching has been keeping us in games!

When I coached, teams from up North would hit well early as a result of all the indoor cage time but would struggle defensively from not being outside as much. 

I guess it was just our bad pitching. :-)

We're drowning here in the Pacific Northwest. We've had about 5 extra months worth of precipitation over the Winter and Spring. There is less than a month left in the regular season and almost all schools here are struggling with getting games in. We played a double header last Friday on the first 70 degree day of the year, but it's been raining almost nonstop since then.

The bummer is that we are doing really well this season, but it's hard to get in a groove. We have a legitimate shot at making the playoffs for the first time in years. There isn't a single kid on the roster that has ever been to the playoffs. We even beat the #1 team in the state a couple weeks ago and swept our three game series against a top private school last week (we have only beat that team 1 time in recent memory). My 2018 has settled into a comfortable starting pitching role after having a couple tough outings early on. We have learned that pitching in rain and hail with temps in the 40's and 50's does not bring out the best in him. He pitched an amazing game at the Coach Bob invite against the top team in Phoenix, which was a real confidence booster. Now, if we could just get some dry days (I won't even go so far as to ask for sun) to finish the season, I would be a happy camper. 

hshuler posted:
cabbagedad posted:

California Southern Section...  2 1/2 weeks remain of regular season.  Playoffs begin the following week (of May 15).

Good luck! I know there are some good teams in SoCal. How are you guys looking?

As we stand today, looking pretty good for earning a berth but still need a few wins to secure it and a few more for a high seed.  Love our guys but we are doing it without the two true studs on the bump that it typically takes to make a deep run in our section.  We've done it all year without 2 of 3 top projected rotation guys.  Would be all the more sweet.

You?

As for my 2018, for the most part he is having a pretty good spring.  One really bad inning last week where he gave up 5 hits and 2 earned runs.  He was mad as hell when he got home because he said the pitching coach was calling all fast balls in that inning and they were hitting it.  To be fair, he obviously wasn't hitting his spots because if he were they wouldn't have been hitting it like that.  The next 4 innings he was lights out and gave up I think 2 more hits total and no more earned runs.  This was against the number 1 team in the state.  He's among the top in the state in ERA having pitched against the best teams on the schedule.  He's getting some press this spring from PBR and a couple of the local fall ball teams but to my knowledge is only hearing from one school.  Which is the one he contacted because they are his lifelong dream school.   If it works out for him that will be great but as a parent I am extremely nervous about him putting all his eggs in one basket.  We've had multiple conversations about his need to reach out to more schools but he is stubborn.  Honestly if an offer doesn't materialize from dream school he will probably go juco in hopes to still make it there eventually.  If anyone has advice on how to get a kid to open up their options I am all for hearing it.  Nothing we have said so far has sunk in. 

cabbagedad posted:
hshuler posted:
cabbagedad posted:

California Southern Section...  2 1/2 weeks remain of regular season.  Playoffs begin the following week (of May 15).

Good luck! I know there are some good teams in SoCal. How are you guys looking?

As we stand today, looking pretty good for earning a berth but still need a few wins to secure it and a few more for a high seed.  Love our guys but we are doing it without the two true studs on the bump that it typically takes to make a deep run in our section.  We've done it all year without 2 of 3 top projected rotation guys.  Would be all the more sweet.

You?

Losing two of your top three is tough. Any chance of getting one or both of those guys back for the playoffs? Good luck down the stretch!

Regarding our team, I knew that we had a shot to be good because of two senior starters who will pitch in college and a junior lefty who's a Big 10 commit.  

The concern was whether the youth everywhere else would be an issue. Luckily, it has not as we are 28-2. Our lineup has two seniors, two juniors, two sophomores and three freshmen. 

The playoffs are a different animal so hopefully, we'll continue playing well.

LivingtheDream posted:

As for my 2018, for the most part he is having a pretty good spring.  One really bad inning last week where he gave up 5 hits and 2 earned runs.  He was mad as hell when he got home because he said the pitching coach was calling all fast balls in that inning and they were hitting it.  To be fair, he obviously wasn't hitting his spots because if he were they wouldn't have been hitting it like that.  The next 4 innings he was lights out and gave up I think 2 more hits total and no more earned runs.  This was against the number 1 team in the state.  He's among the top in the state in ERA having pitched against the best teams on the schedule.  He's getting some press this spring from PBR and a couple of the local fall ball teams but to my knowledge is only hearing from one school.  Which is the one he contacted because they are his lifelong dream school.   If it works out for him that will be great but as a parent I am extremely nervous about him putting all his eggs in one basket.  We've had multiple conversations about his need to reach out to more schools but he is stubborn.  Honestly if an offer doesn't materialize from dream school he will probably go juco in hopes to still make it there eventually.  If anyone has advice on how to get a kid to open up their options I am all for hearing it.  Nothing we have said so far has sunk in. 

Your 2018 sounds a lot like mine. His first outing was against a team that is turning out to be one of the best in the state. They lit him up. First batter of the game hits the first pitch for a double. He couldn't recover. He realized that he needed to be able to work through those issues and move forward. He's been a different pitcher since then. We have one of the best pitchers in the state as our ace, so he's been a great mentor to my son.

My kid is pretty ambivalent about college right now. He knows he wants to go, but he seems a little intimidated to make concrete plans. I've pushed about as much as I can and I'm not willing to take over the process entirely. He may end up at a Juco and I'm okay with that. It will be a good fit academically and give him good intro to college life as a baseball player. I don't really have any advice for getting them to open their options. In my experience, it really does have to be a process led by the kid. Good luck!

hshuler posted:
cabbagedad posted:
hshuler posted:
cabbagedad posted:

California Southern Section...  2 1/2 weeks remain of regular season.  Playoffs begin the following week (of May 15).

Good luck! I know there are some good teams in SoCal. How are you guys looking?

As we stand today, looking pretty good for earning a berth but still need a few wins to secure it and a few more for a high seed.  Love our guys but we are doing it without the two true studs on the bump that it typically takes to make a deep run in our section.  We've done it all year without 2 of 3 top projected rotation guys.  Would be all the more sweet.

You?

Losing two of your top three is tough. Any chance of getting one or both of those guys back for the playoffs? Good luck down the stretch!

Regarding our team, I knew that we had a shot to be good because of two senior starters who will pitch in college and a junior lefty who's a Big 10 commit.  

The concern was whether the youth everywhere else would be an issue. Luckily, it has not as we are 28-2. Our lineup has two seniors, two juniors, two sophomores and three freshmen. 

The playoffs are a different animal so hopefully, we'll continue playing well.

That's awesome!  Should be an exciting run.  So, you know exactly what I'm talking about with the two studs on the bump.  Guessing you might have to fight a bit of complacency (now starting to just expect vs work to win) and the tendency for the young players to expect the horses to carry them.  

No, we won't have those pitchers back, as pitchers anyway.  One is out and the other will take too long to ramp back up.  Others have done an admirable job of "next man up".

Good luck!

cabbagedad posted:
hshuler posted:
cabbagedad posted:
hshuler posted:
cabbagedad posted:

California Southern Section...  2 1/2 weeks remain of regular season.  Playoffs begin the following week (of May 15).

Good luck! I know there are some good teams in SoCal. How are you guys looking?

As we stand today, looking pretty good for earning a berth but still need a few wins to secure it and a few more for a high seed.  Love our guys but we are doing it without the two true studs on the bump that it typically takes to make a deep run in our section.  We've done it all year without 2 of 3 top projected rotation guys.  Would be all the more sweet.

You?

Losing two of your top three is tough. Any chance of getting one or both of those guys back for the playoffs? Good luck down the stretch!

Regarding our team, I knew that we had a shot to be good because of two senior starters who will pitch in college and a junior lefty who's a Big 10 commit.  

The concern was whether the youth everywhere else would be an issue. Luckily, it has not as we are 28-2. Our lineup has two seniors, two juniors, two sophomores and three freshmen. 

The playoffs are a different animal so hopefully, we'll continue playing well.

That's awesome!  Should be an exciting run.  So, you know exactly what I'm talking about with the two studs on the bump.  Guessing you might have to fight a bit of complacency (now starting to just expect vs work to win) and the tendency for the young players to expect the horses to carry them.  

No, we won't have those pitchers back, as pitchers anyway.  One is out and the other will take too long to ramp back up.  Others have done an admirable job of "next man up".

Good luck!

Thanks and again, best wishes to you guys as well!

 

LivingtheDream posted:

...He's getting some press this spring from PBR and a couple of the local fall ball teams but to my knowledge is only hearing from one school.  Which is the one he contacted because they are his lifelong dream school.   If it works out for him that will be great but as a parent I am extremely nervous about him putting all his eggs in one basket.  We've had multiple conversations about his need to reach out to more schools but he is stubborn.  Honestly if an offer doesn't materialize from dream school he will probably go juco in hopes to still make it there eventually.  If anyone has advice on how to get a kid to open up their options I am all for hearing it.  Nothing we have said so far has sunk in. 

When my 2012 was going through the process, sometimes with this type of issue, I kept an eye out for relative stories and scenarios with players, coaches and teams he had some connection with who may have just dealt with the same.  Often, it was stories from here on HSBBW.  In many instances, that helped.  It wasn't just "advice from dad".  I KNOW there are stories here in the archives about kids getting shafted because the put all their eggs in one basket.

Unfortunately, the kids often do have to experience it for themselves before they learn the hard lessons.  But they only get one shot at this so steer them toward as many tools of information as you can.

If yours is a 2018 also, he will likely rub shoulders with other kids going through similar recruiting challenges this summer.  That makes for great relatable events that he can hopefully learn from.

I agree with KandFunk... they have to lead the process.  But nothing wrong with "hey, look at this cool rock you can look under".

 

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Clinched the conference championship last night with our 15th straight victory. Great small town feel. We were playing the #4 team in the state - our fiercest rivals. To give you an idea of how baseball is treated here, there were three separate radio stations/crews covering the game. My 2018 squared off against their best pitcher, former Oriole pitcher Mike Oquist's son. His kid threw a great game, scattering three hits and giving up one unearned run. That one run was plenty, though as Dalton turned in one of his best ever performances, throwing a complete game, 2-hit, shut out. The back held up without pain again.

We have a student-aid chart all of our pitches. He hit 90mph for the first time in an actual game (that we've documented) and sat an easy 88, never falling below 86. 64 of his 103 pitches eclipsed 88. He's never sat that high, so we're guessing we've figured the back thing out. He took a no-hitter into the sixth, stretching his no-hit streak to nine innings before giving up two infield singles. He did suffer from leg cramps late in the game and later that night, though. But, it's been quite the relief. We didn't know if we'd ever figure the back problem out. In the end, looks mostly like it was the product of a bad decision to change his arm slot last fall. Now he gets nine days of rest before his next start. 

roothog66 posted:

Clinched the conference championship last night with our 15th straight victory. Great small town feel. We were playing the #4 team in the state - our fiercest rivals. To give you an idea of how baseball is treated here, there were three separate radio stations/crews covering the game. My 2018 squared off against their best pitcher, former Oriole pitcher Mike Oquist's son. His kid threw a great game, scattering three hits and giving up one unearned run. That one run was plenty, though as Dalton turned in one of his best ever performances, throwing a complete game, 2-hit, shut out. The back held up without pain again.

We have a student-aid chart all of our pitches. He hit 90mph for the first time in an actual game (that we've documented) and sat an easy 88, never falling below 86. 64 of his 103 pitches eclipsed 88. He's never sat that high, so we're guessing we've figured the back thing out. He took a no-hitter into the sixth, stretching his no-hit streak to nine innings before giving up two infield singles. He did suffer from leg cramps late in the game and later that night, though. But, it's been quite the relief. We didn't know if we'd ever figure the back problem out. In the end, looks mostly like it was the product of a bad decision to change his arm slot last fall. Now he gets nine days of rest before his next start. 

Nice - congrats!

roothog66 posted:

Clinched the conference championship last night with our 15th straight victory. Great small town feel. We were playing the #4 team in the state - our fiercest rivals. To give you an idea of how baseball is treated here, there were three separate radio stations/crews covering the game. My 2018 squared off against their best pitcher, former Oriole pitcher Mike Oquist's son. His kid threw a great game, scattering three hits and giving up one unearned run. That one run was plenty, though as Dalton turned in one of his best ever performances, throwing a complete game, 2-hit, shut out. The back held up without pain again.

We have a student-aid chart all of our pitches. He hit 90mph for the first time in an actual game (that we've documented) and sat an easy 88, never falling below 86. 64 of his 103 pitches eclipsed 88. He's never sat that high, so we're guessing we've figured the back thing out. He took a no-hitter into the sixth, stretching his no-hit streak to nine innings before giving up two infield singles. He did suffer from leg cramps late in the game and later that night, though. But, it's been quite the relief. We didn't know if we'd ever figure the back problem out. In the end, looks mostly like it was the product of a bad decision to change his arm slot last fall. Now he gets nine days of rest before his next start. 

Wow, you both have to be in a pretty happy spot right now, awesome!

This afternoon starts our district playoffs.  The 2017's team scraped together wins to come in as the 2nd seed.

The way playoffs are structured here... 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3.  Winners play for the championship.  However, two teams out of the district advance to regional play - so today's game is actually the "must win".

The team is going in with basically a .500 record which given the turmoil over the last couple of years is a miracle. The pitchers look like a MASH unit and the defense rivals the Bad News Bears.  Somehow though they have managed to make it this far. The engine is smoking, the gas gauge is pointing to empty, and there are 2 flat tires - but they are going to keep the pedal down as long as they can.

Rob T posted:

This afternoon starts our district playoffs.  The 2017's team scraped together wins to come in as the 2nd seed.

The way playoffs are structured here... 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3.  Winners play for the championship.  However, two teams out of the district advance to regional play - so today's game is actually the "must win".

The team is going in with basically a .500 record which given the turmoil over the last couple of years is a miracle. The pitchers look like a MASH unit and the defense rivals the Bad News Bears.  Somehow though they have managed to make it this far. The engine is smoking, the gas gauge is pointing to empty, and there are 2 flat tires - but they are going to keep the pedal down as long as they can.

Just remember, the Bad News Bears won it all!  Just pour some STP in the engine, siphon some gas in the parking lot and ride the steel rims if necessary.  Good luck.

I had to watch 2017's team get eliminated on Gamechanger (was in Pigeon Forge with younger son at tournament - Ripken Experience was really a nice setting in the mountains).  Bottom of 7th, they were down by 1 with one out, runners at 2nd and 3rd.  Ended after two consecutive strikeouts.  Feels weird for high school baseball to be over for now, but hope to get back into the program in a couple of years with my 2024.

Oh, gosh...

I was sitting here looking at this thread and thinking for a moment about the final flurry of league games we have over the next two weeks, and how bittersweet it will be to attend Senior Day next Weds. and then I remembered Senior Day for 2017's basketball team and how tough it was for some basketball-only parents seeing their kid's final game. And then I remembered at the end of it how the entire team went into the stands and gave flowers and a group hug to the parents and brother of a middle school friend and teammate of most of them who had died in a freak accident almost 4 years before.

Yes, Senior day will be a little sad but we're so fortunate to be able to celebrate it.

Root that is impressive by your young man. Best of luck the rest of the way. To all with kids winding down the HS season, I wish all of you the best of luck. Soak it all in because it will be over in the blink of an eye. Even for the guys moving to the next level, the college game isn't the same. Better in a lot of ways, but you lose those lifelong friends as teammates. 

Our regular season ended Monday, county playoff starts this Friday. This season was extremely cold and wet. It didn't help that a lot of schools scheduled games at night, adding to the darkness and coldness. 

Our team started off shaky, but ended up with a .500 winning record. Many games were decided by one pitch, one hit, or one error. Anything can happen in the playoffs. Keep my finger crossed. 

Apparently there was just enough gas in the tank to scratch out another win yesterday afternoon. Not sure who is surprised more, the fans, the players, or the coaches. Playing tonight for the district title, but moving on to regional play regardless.

To top off the day, my 11 year old hit a homerun in his game last night. First one since moving up to 12U. 

Rob T posted:

Apparently there was just enough gas in the tank to scratch out another win yesterday afternoon. Not sure who is surprised more, the fans, the players, or the coaches. Playing tonight for the district title, but moving on to regional play regardless.

To top off the day, my 11 year old hit a homerun in his game last night. First one since moving up to 12U. 

Congrats!

I haven't reported in all season, but RHP son had a break out season. He plays on JV, but was always that skinny kid who could occasionally throw well. By the end of the season (which ended last night) he was the tall skinny kid who could reliably dominate and win despite infield errors. He's worked hard over the winter and will continue to do so to move that success to V next year. Our JV was structured around pitchers only going 3 or 4 innings, but within those constraints he was terrific. What a difference a year makes. 

He's now 6 2 and weighs only 140 lbs, but he has developed a confidence this year I wasn't sure would ever emerge. Once or twice he started the game a little rough, but found a way to work himself into a groove and finish strong. He's one of the youngest sophomores in his class and he only started paying baseball when he was 12 so I'm terrifically proud of how he has fought to climb this mountain. He's not near the top of his mountain yet, but dang I'm happy for him.

On to summer ball!  Hope y'all have a good playoff run if you are lucky enough to be in it!

cluelessDad2019 posted:

I haven't reported in all season, but RHP son had a break out season. He plays on JV, but was always that skinny kid who could occasionally throw well. By the end of the season (which ended last night) he was the tall skinny kid who could reliably dominate and win despite infield errors. He's worked hard over the winter and will continue to do so to move that success to V next year. Our JV was structured around pitchers only going 3 or 4 innings, but within those constraints he was terrific. What a difference a year makes. 

He's now 6 2 and weighs only 140 lbs, but he has developed a confidence this year I wasn't sure would ever emerge. Once or twice he started the game a little rough, but found a way to work himself into a groove and finish strong. He's one of the youngest sophomores in his class and he only started paying baseball when he was 12 so I'm terrifically proud of how he has fought to climb this mountain. He's not near the top of his mountain yet, but dang I'm happy for him.

On to summer ball!  Hope y'all have a good playoff run if you are lucky enough to be in it!

Good deal, ClueDad!  Glad to hear he's gaining confidence and doing well.  

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