34 player rosters-one opinion

@DaddyBaller

You are preaching to the choir.

You don't have to give me specifics. You don't have to tell me how it works. Trust me. What you do have to understand is that there really are a lot of coaches out there that have their own way of going about putting a team together. And they might look you and your son straight in the eye and not be truthful.

I never mentioned fall is for tryouts for spring. I suggested finding methods to find out about the program.

I suggested that parents and players do their homework. 

If you need help in knowing how let me know.

@DaddyBaller posted:

@TPM I will try to make this simple for you.

The secret is the lack of transparency in college baseball recruiting.

You still would need to "do your research" , but there would be some basic guardrails to protect players from a bait and switch.

What would be the downside to that @TPM ?

There is no downside to setting a standard and sticking to it. I think that a lot of coaches are lazy or just think that they are safe with their position. I have seen a lot of really good coaches get fired because they had a few tough seasons. The donors get pissed off. Threaten not to give money.

Sometimes it takes a while to get your team on the same page, especially when they are young.  It's a very hard job and there are a lot of coaches out there that deffinetly do the right thing. This is why I say do your homework.

The NCAA needed to set a standard  and rules this summer. But they didn't. But that didn't stop the coaches who do the right thing from doing the right thing! What it did was just make the sketchy ones more sketchy.

IMO the extra eligibility due to covid really messed things up for freshman.

@nycdad posted:

@CollegebaseballInsights are you advocating for nothing to change with fall rosters and leave them as they are now? What number in the fall do you think is reasonable?

I get that coaches want as much time as they can to evaluate, but I think with advances in technology coaches should be able to be better evaluators than they were years ago. When my son was going through this, the good recruiters wanted to see full inning videos of my son pitching, not just the strike outs, etc. They could also go to GC or the equivalent and see scores.

I think there's a difference between incorrectly evaluating a player, cutting him in the fall and stock piling players knowing you can just work out in the fall (And yes I get that the later can sometimes be part of "doing your homework"...sometimes)

@nycdad if you read some of my previous post in this thread, fall rosters should be 39 to 42. 

Again, technology doesn't doesn't mean cr*p if you can't perform under certain scenarios.

Fall baseball is used to determine who is good enough to play in the spring.

@TPM posted:

There is no downside to setting a standard and sticking to it. I think that a lot of coaches are lazy or just think that they are safe with their position.

The NCAA needed to set a standard  and rules this summer. But they didn't. But that didn't stop the coaches who do the right thing from doing the right thing! What it did was just make the sketchy ones more sketchy.

Glad to see we do share some common ground @TPM 😁

That has been my point all along. I am looking for the NCAA to set some basic roster rules that would help the student athletes make informed decisions. I know I'm a dreamer.

If this settlement goes through as has been discussed the fall of 2025 is going to be flooded with more players looking for a home than any year prior. So that's what makes the "do your research" comment very frustrating to a 2025 parent.

It's hard to research an unprecedented event. And coaches can't honestly manage their existing rosters and their incoming recruiting classes when the rules have yet to be determined. We are all flying blind right now.

My gripes have been with the NCAA from the start.