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My son attended two BG events.
Both were very well run, organized, etc. The Pro-Motion people seem to be very open and friendly and the coaches were very helpful. All in all, a lot of fun.

HOWEVER, be careful which events you go to. We went to one at Coastal Carolina that had very few college recruiters or pro scouts. The number of scouts/recruiters was NO WHERE NEAR what they advertise on the site. I personally know (becuase I met with the coach) of one school that was listed as attending that did not attend, although they were invited.

I have heard good things about the Wake Forest and William & Mary events. Use caution with the others, at least the CCU.
My son received an invitation as well today...he took one look at it and "that was the worst thing I'd ever been to." Unprofessional, I/O was a joke, no coaches/scouts (no where near advertised and only from obscure schools).
Been to a couple PG events hope to go to one more...well run, staff is courteous, great exposure...in this economy got to start being more selective were we spend our money.

Conserve fuel...starve a terrorist!
Casey,

I can tell you my son went to the Blue Grey at William & Mary in Williamsburg last August. Plenty of big name schools were there, I spoke with several of the scouts and saw others. W & M is well attended.

The showcase was run in a professional manner and I feel my son got the proper exposure. He has been to Jupiter, Best in Virginia, & Southern Maryland and the W&M Blue Grey was right up there.

My two cents.

CV

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts."

Earl Weaver
My son attended a two day Blue Grey event last summer. I would guess 25 or so scouts in attendance the first day to watch the skills assessments in the morning. The games were to begin in the afternoon and continue the next day. During the games, you were hard pressed to find a scout. I thought this was rather odd. I found the answer to my concern when a college coach stated that he usually attended Blue Grey because they pay for one night's hotel and two meals. I guess when the expenses start coming out of their budget they must leave!
CVSting:

Mine was at W'burg as well....yes there were 20+ coaches there to watch the pitchers...only 12 were there to watch I/O, unless the others were disguised as empty seats, during I/O whomever it was could barely hit the ball (everyone resembled a slow roller) and they didn't even hit the ball to the OF's, they tossed it or rolled it to them. During the games you were hard pressed to find any scouts (I believe one from Georgia Southern, can't recall for sure, stayed throughout the event). The schools in attendance were Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian (not exactly the biggest names in college baseball) obviously W&M was there (they had to be). I can assure you that my viewpoint on the quality of the event was shared by 7-8 parents who expressed their concern with the overall quality of the event. Yes, they had issues with weather and yes they did a good job in getting the event in but after having been to several other showcases I can say that this one was not worth it (maybe the talent level didn't attract a lot of coaches) but whatever the reason it did not live up to others...maybe it was an abberation I don't know but I am unwilling to pay to find out. I'll stick with PG, Team One, Selectfest Thank you.

Conserve fuel...starve a terrorist!
My son attended one BG event last year and we were very disappointed. He went to the Winter Haven showcase and there were not anywhere near the number of college coaches or scouts there as were advertised. Compared to Team One this event was shameful when it came to exposure. My impression is that the BG events at some of the colleges may be worthwhile. My advice, however, would be to go to Perfect Game or Team One events instead. Too much money involved to take a chance when there are showcases with much better track records available.
NJBBdad,

All I can do is tell you what I saw. My son's team, "Team Virginia" was an elite bunch of players, the best in the State as it was the year before. Coach Wiley Lee is no slow roller, his high school team, Great Bridge, won the State AAA baseball Championship. Team Maryland coach Billy Johnson is no slow roller either, go to one of his hitting seminars. I know for a fact he had two of his players in Maryland (lived on the same street)sign pro contracts for over 8 millon dollars.

Due to the weather I think some of the I/O had to be rescheduled. I would imagine Gus has no control over the scouts as to whether 20 + want to watch the pitchers and not as many wanted to watch when you son's team did their I/O. All of the showcases I've been to by the last day not many scouts are hanging around. You learn you better shine early and throw the heat on the first day.

Regardless of if the ball is thrown by hand or hit by a bat due to time restraints and the outfield was extremely soggy and slick. I would imagine it would be to the players benefit to have it rolled or thrown to them by hand. I've seen it done both ways. I would guess the scouts are looking for arm strength and accuracy. Speed is measured in the 60.

I don't remember LSU or Cal State being there but plenty of good solid D I and DII schools from around this area attended.

CV

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts."

Earl Weaver
We attended the BG at the University of Tennessee last August. It was a good showcase for regional exposure. This was of benefit a lot of the players at the event, who were probably more "regional" than "national". There were some D-1s represented, but also a number of D-II, NAIA, and JUCOs represented (and a few pro scouts).

I got the impression that Gus and staff do care about the players and helping them. However they may be spreading themselves a little too thin with the number of showcases they are conducting around the southeast.

We enjoyed the banquet and chance to get to know players and parents from around the area.
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obviously W&M was there (they had to be)


Not really. Coastal Carolina did not "attend" the event at their own facilities. The head coach spoke at the banquet and explained that his program was strong enough to cherry-pick players. He spent no time evaluating what was happening at the event as far as I could tell, and actually asked to not be approached by wishful players and/or parents. He already knew who he was going after.

IMO, hosting and participating are not the same thing.
My son attended a Teamone event and a Blue-Grey event this past summer and I can say that we were pleased with both.

He attended TeamOne in Houston and there were plenty of recruiters there. It appeared that most were from the southeast and Texas schools. I f you are interested in going to school in that area this is a good event to attend (IMHO). There could have been some from other areas, but you can't always tell. The event was well run and my son received a lot of interest as a result of his attendance.

He attended the Blue-Grey event at Winston-Salem. Most of the recruiters were from the east coast schools as expected and there must have been 60 or better of them in attendance. This event was also well run and there were quite a few players. Again, received a lot of phone calls from recruiters afterwards. I don't know about the other B-G events (locations) but we were pleased with the results from the Winston-Salem event.


twoseamer
Attend B/G at Wake Forest last year.
Ton's of scouts the 1st day, a lot on the 2nd day, and a handful on the 3rd day. Well organized & ran soomthly.

My major complainent, is they listed schools in attendence that were not present. Two schools which had an interest in my son said they would not be at the event, however, they were both listed as being present. THIS IS DECIETFUL and not very professional.

You will get exposure, but definitly on a regional basis.
My son attended the BG event last August (2003). We had been told that the event the previous year was very well attended by both college and professional scouts.

This years event had about 10 to 15 scouts (college and pro), but listed up to at least 25 schools that was represented. I was not overly impressed with the showcase overall. I believe one thing that may have contributed to the lack of attendance was that both the William and Mary and the Wake Forest showcases had been held not more than 3 weeks before.

I was told the Wake Forest showcase was well run and attended by many schools.
Although we were very pleased with the 62 colleges and 14 Major League teams that were represented at Wake Forest in 2003, we were not at all disappointed with the college turnout at William and Mary and Coastal Carolina. Wake has been in operation 8 years longer than both and timing is also a factor. Keep in mind that when any showcase tallys up the colleges that actually attend that those who attend for only one day are included. William and Mary had 32 colleges and 6 Pro Scouts while Coastal had 26 and 7 Pro Teams. We like most showcases do their best to attract colleges by having quality prospects and running a well organized event. Some events run head up with other showcases and college attendance can be split. Obviously there are a lot of showcases out there today and the new baseball recruiting calendar has created a limited window for the showcase firms to operate.

Most of the prospects and parents from our events are extremely happy with the recruiting action generated but you can't possibly please everyone who attends any given showcase.

To those who have come to our defense we thank you for your support and to those who were not totally happy we are always anxious to assist or guide you through the recruiting process. We are only a phone call away.

Our staff looks forward to helping all prospects who attend in 2004 to help them achieve their goals of playing college baseball while getting a fine education!

Best regards,
Gus Bell
There is no doubt the Wake Forest Classic is B-G's flagship, and a very worthwhile event. My son attended quite a few of the major showcases in 2001 and I can assure players/parents just starting the recruiting process that you can go "national" from the scouting word-of-mouth network just as quickly from WF B-G as T1 or PG, both terrific operations.

Gus is attempting to grow his business (he truly does care about the kids) and some of what I'm reading is just growing pains. I know its not from a lack of time or effort on Gus's part to make it top shelf.

Clearly there are operators out there who care more about just grabbing the money. Gus isn't among them.

"Pour me another hot dog, Pee Wee." - Dizzy Dean
I took a fast look this afternoon and could not believe the terrible comments that were being made about the Blue-Grey especially by Catcher Dad. My son attended the Blue-Grey this past year at William & Mary and also Coastal Carolina. Both he and I were so pleased. He had also gone to TEAM ONE and Perfect Game and Blue-Grey was the best. I was able to talk with the coaching staff at Blue-Grey including Mike Jones about what my next step should be with my son. They ask me to call them if they could help. I had no access to TEAM ONE and Perfect Game staff. The Coastal Carolina staff was at the Showcase. I know I talked with them. If TEAM ONE and Perfect Game had a banquet my son was not invited. The Blue-Grey banquet was a good experience.Catcher Dad was not at the same banquet that my son and I were at. Number of coaches is not the most important thing folks. You need to market your son. My son signed early at the DI level and got lots on baseball money. Blue-Grey did not do it all - but helped a lot. Perfect Game and Team One did nothing. Guess my son was not good enough.
Pug-
I didn't think my comments were that terrible. I said BG offers a well-run event and the people are very open and helpful. I had a nice discussion with Eddie James, who offered some good advice. I also asked for and got some great feedback from Mike Jones some time after the event. And my son liked his coach, Gus Garcia. The people are first rate.

I believe the quantity of recruiters was light, and I know there were schools listed that did not attend. I was disappointed not in BG's efforts but in the school turnout, especially since my son had a pretty good showcase. If I had it to do again, I would probably go to Wake or W&M. Gus actually had my son lined up for W&M but I changed based on who I thought would be at CCU. That was my decision, not Gus's.

Overall, BG events are well done. I just think there are too darn many showcases, and that's why you kind of take your chances when you choose which to attend. I would not be surprised to see a showcase shakeout over the next few years. Something's gotta give.

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Just to echo what's already been said, we liked the BG folks a great deal and enjoyed the BG at Wlliam and Mary. I have a bias I guess because that was the showcase where my son was seen by the school that eventually signed him. The banquet is a neat idea, and although a speaker or two might get a little wordy, I felt a lot of very good information was gained by listening to the college coaches speak about their programs and their recruiting. My son's team coach was absolutely outstanding.
For all you 05 parents and beyond, going to various showcases, college camps, etc is a craps shoot. "YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS WATCHING". There is not a single "showcase firm", to quote Gus, who can guareentee which colleges will be in attendence.

One way to increase the odds, is make sure your son notifies the schools which he is interested in and tell them which showcases you will be attending.
04CatcherDad....Off to College.....

I agree with both of your comments.

Our 06 catcher attended two camps at Notre Dame, which is approximately 2 hours away from our home in the Chicago suburbs. He really wants to go there, and loves the campus. Academically he is "set", baseball wise, he can play. Is he a "stud", no! He plans on attending a PG and Midwest Prospects events this summer.

I'm starting to formulate an opinion that bascically says, if you are from a 'warm climate' state, can pitch or play ss, your exposure nationally and to top D1 schools, is best achieved by going to these events. On the other hand, if you are a very good pitcher or position player, going to these events gives you a sense of where you are, and where you need to be.

Now being from a not-so-warm climate, I think that going to a college camp at the schools that your interested in is extremely valuable, and should be a tool used in evaluating your skills + indicating to that coaching staff, your interest in their program.

I know the process is not that simple, but I believe that either way, doing both events and camps, you should have covered all of your opportunities.

Does this make sense to anyone????

"You observe a lot by watching."
Boomer

I agree with you

There are, as I see it , three aspects

Travel teams, Showcases amd college camps--the team and showcase aspects get you exposure--the camp(s) at school the player(S) have a special yen for help the coaches there see you son hopefully for a second time but a bit more up
close

Are there any assurances ? --NO
Can you do any harm by getting max exposure ? NO

Keep in mind also that many things need to fall in line-- the position you play needs to be needed at any school for them to recruit you-- if they have three SS already on the roster the odds are they won't even be looking at shortstops--many players/parents do not take this into consideration

I have always felt that exposure was the key--the coaches who see you the more options you will have--the fact that you have an interest in a school and attend their camp can be a plus but not a guarantee


No, the process is not simple but with the proper exposure and marketing it can be a heck of a lot easier.

TRhit
Boomer, under your theory of covering all the bases "we" did it exactly as Tom has drawn it up...travel teams, showcases and camps at our target schools.

Most parents only get one shot at the whole recruiting process. In real estate its location, in recruiting/scholarships its exposure. If you can, more is better than less. It requires planning, time and money but for a gifted student/athlete its a small sacrifice for parents to make for their son's pursuit of his (and their) dream.

Since your son is also good academically you might also consider the Honor Roll camp in West Palm Beach each November, run by Head First Baseball. Check out their website for schools attending...

"Pour me another hot dog, Pee Wee." - Dizzy Dean
TRhit.....

Thank you for the information Tom, and we know there are no guarantees. But, I just wonder if many parents, or kids for that matter, understand that you can have two or three players at a given position on a roster. I asked, on another forum, if there is some sort of yearly, or multiple year cycle that coaches will use to determine what positions need to be filled on any given year. It makes the most sense to plan this way, I would think. Should help in making a school decision for the player.

As far as playing in college, it sort of explains why some top players here in Ilinois chose to attend schools that might not be your Rices, Stanfords, Texas, etc., and go to a Valpraiso, Northwestern, Illinois State, Indiana, UIC, and so on. They have the grades, or you would think, they however were told that they could fill an immediate need in the varsity line-up. Get a good education, not pay 'big bucks' and still play baseball, sooner than later. The warmer climate schools, you could get cut early, because of all the quality "local" talent, and now what.

Does this make sense again?

P.S.

My son is planning on visiting you out East, I think, in 2005, when he is in his junior year.

"You observe a lot by watching."
lotsadeacs....

Thanks for that website information!!

My son goes to a duel campus high school, Lyons Township, with Fresh/Soph going to one campus, and the Jun/Sen going to the other. Approximately 3,700 students total. Our team won "State" in 2003. Hope to repeat, but not likely.

My sons biggest goal is to make the 25 player sophomore team. Was on the "A" team as a freshman. If you make the team, your usually invited to play on the summer team. Then, he will play travel ball with a good, competitive organization, Lombard Lightning. Will do fall ball with them also. Throw-in the showcase and camps, and he should play approximately 110 games + practices + training.

So, it appears, like you and Tom have stated, and experienced, this method/system seems to be the most practical for us. Which we plan on following. Like the ND coach said to me, "you can have all the lessons/training you want, you have to play games." Great advice.

Thanks again lotsadeacs and TRhit.

"You observe a lot by watching."
Pug, I am a little confused...this is your post from 1/15/04 on the showcase forum PG World Wood Bat in Ft Myers

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"It is still hard for me to understand why anyone would pay the money to have a bunch of people ( WHO MAY OR NOT BE QUALIFIED)look at you son and tell you what level he can play at. It just amazes me. The experience might be fine and fun for you son - but how does help your son get recruitered by a college. Am I missing the boat?"
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Seems contradictary to your post on this topic..Blue Grey on 1/14/04??? Just a question?

"If you can imagine it you can create it. If you can dream it, you can become it". William Arthur Ward

"Baseball is Life"
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Pug-
What DI did your son sign early with? From our experience, PG and T1 tend to draw more of a DI and MLB crowd of scouts and BG tends to draw more DII and DIII. Not a negative, just an observation.
Also-I have found that PG has been more than happy to share info. with me by phone, even suggesting colleges still looking for my son's playing position. Nothing but kudos for PG! I don't need a banquet either!
Lots of talk here about Wake Forest and William and Mary, but nothing mentioned about the Battle of the States in Tampa. My son received an invite there. Can anyone give us an idea of what to expect? We've never been at a BG event. He's looking for exposure to schools (DI and DII) in NC,VA, and SC. Do they attend this event? Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
My son attended the Blue Grey showcase in Jacksonville, Fla. It was a good experience all the way around for my son. Good exposure and the coaches and instructors were very helpful. I would reccommend it to anyone who is serious about playing baseball at the next level. Gus and his coaches run a good showcase and do a good job.
TO ALL OF YOU GUYS
Gus Bell and associates with BG are quality people who care for the kids. They're really helpful and reachable at all times. I will recomend their showcases to any kid who wants to play at the next level. In short, good down to earth guys. Congratulations Gus and Eddie, keep it up. From sunny Tampa. Thank's for your help. Cool Cool Cool

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