LHP

@Consultant posted:

Adbono;

Santa Rosa JC has a student enrollment of 30,000 student and is ranked academic #14 in the USA. Baseball team is annually ranked #3 in the State. The California JC's are a "farm" team to the 4 year College programs.

The JC teams will annually "redshirt" 10-15 players.

It is very difficult to play as a Freshman. A Freshman should plan his classes that are transferable.

Bob

Bob, as you know SRJC was traditionally considered a gateway to Berkeley. Though many still take that path, more importantly all CA JC students who meet preset requirements are guaranteed transfer to one of six UCs. While this is not the path we wanted for our kids, it’s a great path for many, many students and arguably results in a degree that may be as valuable or more than one from many, many four year colleges and universities.

Fact.

Hello fellow forum members - here is the latest…he will be ready to throw in a game beginning next week. Over the last couple of weeks he has been going to PT and building his arm and shoulder back up along with a throwing program.  

Again want to hear thoughts on chances of getting D1 offers this late in the game. At the end of the day, he will only have 4 tournaments to pitch in. Personally, I don’t see school picking anybody up in 4 weeks if they have never seen them play before.

As stated previously it is D1 or nothing. I am not wasting time at a JUCO or D2 or D3.  

Yes, I know some of those schools are awesome, but none of them are around where I live.

There is a time when all these kids will move on from playing baseball. I don’t intend to drag it out.

Someone who throws 95 and never seen before might overwhelm a coach at this late date. 87, assuming he gets back to max velocity off physical problems isn’t going to overwhelm anyone.

What could occur is over embellished talk about walk on opportunities because the coach has nothing to lose. The kid is gravy if he makes the team. Chances are there isn’t any money left for D1 22’s. When you don’t get athletic money the coach doesn’t have any skin in the game. He has nothing to lose. The player has everything to lose. He ends up at a school without baseball he might not otherwise want to attend.

So basically he is screwed which I agree with.

Do you live in Charlotte, NC? Do you know the Coaches at UNC? Do you watch the Pro team?

Bob

I do and no I do not know the coaches. What pro team the knights?

I just spent 15 mins catching up on this thread, and I have to say that I just literally lost 15 mins of my life.

It is better to be a diamond with a flaw then a pebble without one - The key is figuring out which one you believe yourself to be.....

Appreciate the comment O’s fan, but I deal in reality. When the odds are stacked against you you need to know when to fold them. In this case time to fold them and move on.

Honestly, I'm sorry you feel that way, and best luck moving forward

@Rockers posted:

As stated previously it is D1 or nothing. I am not wasting time at a JUCO or D2 or D3.  

Yes, I know some of those schools are awesome, but none of them are around where I live.

There is a time when all these kids will move on from playing baseball. I don’t intend to drag it out.

I know for a fact there are many good D2 schools near you and Wingate just won the D2 National Championship... but why waste time on a D2...  I guess you assume that D1 school are going to knock your door down for a LHP throwing 87-88... Not going to happen and sorry your son wont be able to see if he can even make a college team regardless of level...  So why keep playing at all?

Wingate is shit school. $40k is ridiculous to go there. He will play and just finish out his career.

They have a 90% acceptance rate.

Did any of you even go to college?

@Rockers posted:

My son is a left handed pitcher and in July was diagnosed with a developing stress fracture. This happened just before the big Perfect Game event down in Atlanta. We had 14 Division 1 schools lined up to come watch him pitch. We are still waiting for the green light from the Dr to begin working his arm out and begin to pitch. I am really worried he has lost these schools attention. Do you think he still has time to solidify an offer? By the way he is 6’1 180 throws there pitches for strikes and tops out at 87.

So going back to this original post - What makes you believe that your son is a D1 pitcher?  Topping at 87 is not going to get him to a D1?  You never expounded on the 14 schools, how much contact there was, what the contact was etc.  Did your son ever speak with the coaches from all those schools or was it a list of coaches attending a game your son was scheduled to pitch at?  Big difference...  Bottom line is you have been given plenty of good advice and you choose to discount it.  You have been dismissive to those that have tried to help and you have belittled those that have mentioned JUCO, D2 and D3 as options.  If its D1 or bust maybe check out one of the MAAC schools that has averaged about 3 wins a year for the past 5 years... But hey - Its a D1!  Good luck

@Rockers posted:

Did any of you even go to college?

Yes, most of us did - and actually graduated. Some played college baseball and managed to get good degrees along the way. Others played professionally. Non-players include business owners, executives, teachers, professors, coaches, scouts, private instructors, moms, grandfathers, and on and on. There are people from all walks of life on here that have given their time to offer you sound advice based on their own various experiences. From what I can tell you have chosen to listen to none of it. There are many pathways to success in college baseball. The easiest and most logical path often isn’t the one taken - but it takes an open mind to see those possibilities. If your son has the passion it takes to play baseball beyond HS hopefully he finds one of those paths on his own.

People - I am not looking for a top 25 baseball school. I could care less about him playing at one of those schools. They are cut throat and most players never even stay all 4 years. They over commit kids at those schools.

What is wrong with the MAAC? I had a friend play on a team in that league and got drafted in the sixth round.  By the way they don’t average three wins a season.  There is nothing wrong with the MAC either.

Here - I made contact for you and you dont even have to drive far AND its a D1 AND they are a good team AND the have a high national ranking per US New and World Report AND they have nice facilities AND 91% of kids who attend were in top 1/2 of their HS AND the link even has contact info...  Problem SOLVED, unless you dont like Green! 

https://info.collegebaseballca...bertwoodardbaseball/

@Rockers posted:

People - I am not looking for a top 25 baseball school. I could care less about him playing at one of those schools. They are cut throat and most players never even stay all 4 years. They over commit kids at those schools.

What is wrong with the MAAC? I had a friend play on a team in that league and got drafted in the sixth round.  By the way they don’t average three wins a season.  There is nothing wrong with the MAC either.

Then what the hell are you looking for???

Link doesn’t work

https://events.abcsportscamps....te-prospect-camp-11/

@FriarFred posted:

Then what the hell are you looking for???

An excuse to give up, so it's not his son's fault he didn't make it.

A myriad of viable options were presented.  He doesn't want any of them.

Just reading this. Wow. Few thoughts.

How is a kid with a fracture coming back to pitch in less than 2 months? Both my kids are pitchers and have gone through injuries, PT, etc. I can' imagine this isn't a rushed time table.

My 2020 is in the MAAC and my 2022 will also be in the MAAC. Generally weak division, but had 2 teams in the tourney this year and one team ranked in the top 25 via RPI all year. Maybe you were referring to a team (St. Peters) and not the division?

Being a collegiate athlete at *any* level is a boost to an almost non-existent resume coming out of college.

Pre covid, we had two LHP one touched 87, one 89.  Neither got many offers.  One ended up at a D2 with a good scholarship, the other at a D3 and quit before the season.  Sounds like neither option is what you are looking for.  Post covid/transfer portal, I would think D1 options at the velocity would be a very small.

I also don't understand the dismissal of the HA D3s on the east coast. If you're so concerned about the academics and long term outcomes, with your son's metrics he'll have a better education at various D3s than the D1s he can pitch at.

This injury occurred back in June and it was a developing stress fracture and he has not pitched in over 11 weeks! It is not a rush job. 4 weeks of PT and a daily throwing program will have him ready. If he’s ready, he’s ready. Kids heal at different rates.

I get the whole velocity thing for righties but a lefty throwing 87,88, 89 with room to grow and some fine tuning will get them to 90+.

I don’t get why all these schools are so picky about velocity. Isn’t their job to make you a better player, etc?

what is that kid that went to a D3 school doing now? I bet nothing.

@nycdad posted:

Just reading this. Wow. Few thoughts.

How is a kid with a fracture coming back to pitch in less than 2 months? Both my kids are pitchers and have gone through injuries, PT, etc. I can' imagine this isn't a rushed time table.

My 2020 is in the MAAC and my 2022 will also be in the MAAC. Generally weak division, but had 2 teams in the tourney this year and one team ranked in the top 25 via RPI all year. Maybe you were referring to a team (St. Peters) and not the division?

Being a collegiate athlete at *any* level is a boost to an almost non-existent resume coming out of college.

Yes (didnt want to name the school as I only based my comment off of on-field record) - I certainly didn't mean to imply all schools in MAAC by any means.  I 100% agree with "being a collegiate athlete as *any* level is a boost to an almost non-existent resume coming out of college"

Any update on the 14 schools you had lined up?

Can everyone hold off for a few minutes -- I need to make some more popcorn...

Miami University, Notre Dame, WNC, BGSU, Florida Atlantic, Liberty, High Point, Gardner Webb, Elon, UNC-G, Lafeyette, App state, Navy, Wofford, Wingate, Winthrop

@Rockers posted:

what is that kid that went to a D3 school doing now? I bet nothing.

I don't know, how many MLB front office people does Amherst turn out? I'm sure it's hard getting a job coming out of Babson right? Lots of unemployed coming from Emory....

See you are going from one extreme to another. Yeah Emory, Babson etc those are brainiac schools. He can’t get into those.

Then he isn't getting into a couple of the others you listed, either. With or without baseball.

They wouldn’t be seeking or asking about him if they didn’t think he could get in.

My money is on the fact that this kid's dad is a complete and utter douche.

@Rockers posted:

They wouldn’t be seeking or asking about him if they didn’t think he could get in.

Having gone through this twice, I can tell you this is 100% false.

@Rockers posted:

Miami University, Notre Dame, WNC, BGSU, Florida Atlantic, Liberty, High Point, Gardner Webb, Elon, UNC-G, Lafeyette, App state, Navy, Wofford, Wingate, Winthrop

From a baseball perspective, I can help you whittle down that list. Based on your circumstances you can eliminate Miami, Notre Dame, Florida Atlantic, Liberty, High Point, Elon, UNC-G, and Navy because those programs have either filled their needs or they are too good to try and walk on. Don’t know enough about Wofford, Wingate, or Winthrop to comment on their baseball or academics. Sounds like you should target BGSU - a pretty good school with a pretty bad D1 baseball team. A program like that might welcome an uninvited walk on LHP.

When all his former close teammates are going to play D1 and I am talking most of them are going to power schools and some being drafted next year yeah it’s pretty frustrating.

He has always been the smallest, not the strongest, and now that he is finally here he gets hurt and misses all the big events and now are backs are against the wall. It sucks! All of this happened and the wrong time.

Basically he has 4 weeks left. That’s it’s. Period.  I am done.

...and BGSU recently eliminated, then, shortly thereafter, reinstated the program...