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What happened to him being "straight up" traded to the Packers for Favre? 
Say it ain't so !!! But it is ... 
Who did Boston get?
Joe Torre.
Another superstar ran out of Boston.
Red Sox are done now and Yankees will conquer the AL East now that Manny's with Sleepy Joe.
Would've like to see the Yankees get him to fill their LF and big bat need but trading him out of the league to a team who don't appear to be much of a threat to make a world series run is the next best thing.
Red Sox are done now and Yankees will conquer the AL East now that Manny's with Sleepy Joe.
Would've like to see the Yankees get him to fill their LF and big bat need but trading him out of the league to a team who don't appear to be much of a threat to make a world series run is the next best thing.
Jason Bay from the Pirates, for 3 or 4 prospects
one of those three way deals.
dang
one of those three way deals.
dang
From ESPN.com Quote from Manny:
"The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me," Ramirez told ESPNdeportes.com Wednesday. "During my years here, I've seen how they [the Red Sox] have mistreated other great players when they didn't want them to try to turn the fans against them.
"The Red Sox did the same with guys like Nomar Garciaparra and Pedro Martinez, and now they do the same with me. Their goal is to paint me as the bad guy," Ramirez added. "I love Boston fans, but the Red Sox don't deserve me. I'm not talking about money. Mental peace has no price, and I don't have peace here."
"The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me," Ramirez told ESPNdeportes.com Wednesday. "During my years here, I've seen how they [the Red Sox] have mistreated other great players when they didn't want them to try to turn the fans against them.
"The Red Sox did the same with guys like Nomar Garciaparra and Pedro Martinez, and now they do the same with me. Their goal is to paint me as the bad guy," Ramirez added. "I love Boston fans, but the Red Sox don't deserve me. I'm not talking about money. Mental peace has no price, and I don't have peace here."
The trade went via Pittsburgh.
South Florida was excited to possibly get Manny, bunch of very young guys, he would have fit right in.
But I think that Torre will be a good fit for Manny.
As far as Pudge getting traded, I have been upset since he left the Marlins.
South Florida was excited to possibly get Manny, bunch of very young guys, he would have fit right in.
But I think that Torre will be a good fit for Manny.
As far as Pudge getting traded, I have been upset since he left the Marlins.
All across the great state of Arizona, fans are crying (not so) quietly into their beer.
I think the Sox are done for this year. I don't think the trade was bad, but they needed pitching more than they needed to get rid of Manny.
Now to refute the ignorant comments:quote:Originally posted by zombywoof:
Another superstar ran out of Boston.
Red Sox are done now and Yankees will conquer the AL East now that Manny's with Sleepy Joe.
Would've like to see the Yankees get him to fill their LF and big bat need but trading him out of the league to a team who don't appear to be much of a threat to make a world series run is the next best thing.
Superstars have not been run out of Boston.
Before leaving via free agency Clemens was 40-39 over the previous four years with three of his worst ERA's and 26 missed starts due to arm problems. After leaving Boston he seems to have found a magic elixar.
Before leaving via free agency Pedro Martinez proved he couldn't get past the sixth inning. His ERA over 7.00 after the 6th in his last season with the Sox. Ask Grady Little how good Pedro was after six innings.
He wanted a huge contract. Six inning pitchers don't get huge contracts. Martinez has spent more time on the Mets DL than on the Mets roster.Garciaparra has lost range and had been injured when the Sox traded him. The trade helped them win the pennant. Garciaparra hasn't been right since. The Sox traded him as he was losing it.
Manny Ramirez ran himself out of town. He was going to do what it took to agitate the Red Sox into trading him and get the receiving team to void the two options on his contract. Manny didn't care about the team. Manny cared about Manny. The Sox were going to have to bench him if he continued to dog it. Francona and Epstein were willing to blow off Manny's escapades as Manny being Manny. When Manny attack ownership he want after the guy signing the paycheck. Ownership had to do something.
Whether or not the Sox make the playoffs will be about getting healthy and the bullpen finding some consistancy. Bay will be fine for the regular season. Manny could be missed in the playoffs. He's one of the all-time great hitters. But the Sox were going to have a huge hole in the lineup after being forced by Manny's behavior to suspend him.
Manny wouldn't fit with the Yankees unless they throw Giambi under the bus. Please don't tell me Manny could cover left at Yankee Stadium. Giambi can't play first.
Note: The Dodgers got a steal. Manny will be motivated and hit well. When he leaves via free agency they get two supplemental picks.
Manny doesn't realize it yet but he is a lot better off on the West Coast. Teams that don't appreciate talent with a personality don't understand that keeps the team loose. Clowning around is part of baseball, if you don't believe that watch what happens at almost every ball park in between innings with the mascots, the parodies and whinnie races.
It's all about entertaining the fans, that the new paradigm in baseball is "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT". The old grumps want the fans to sit on their hands and pretend to be soooo polite. That's garbage. Long ago fans use to really get envolved with their teams and voiced their approval and disapproval vociferously.
Now you go to a ball park and you'd think you are at the cemetery its so quiet. Baseball has changed so much since I played as I kid I don't bother going to the games anymore. Rather watch it on TV in my house where I can scream yell and shout appreciative when I see a good play and derogatorily when it is warranted.
The peeps in L.A. will welcome Manny Ramirez with open arms, and the Dodgers now have a chance to win it all. Why, because Manny now has a reason to kick some a*ss just like Jackie Robinson did.
JMO
It's all about entertaining the fans, that the new paradigm in baseball is "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT". The old grumps want the fans to sit on their hands and pretend to be soooo polite. That's garbage. Long ago fans use to really get envolved with their teams and voiced their approval and disapproval vociferously.
Now you go to a ball park and you'd think you are at the cemetery its so quiet. Baseball has changed so much since I played as I kid I don't bother going to the games anymore. Rather watch it on TV in my house where I can scream yell and shout appreciative when I see a good play and derogatorily when it is warranted.
The peeps in L.A. will welcome Manny Ramirez with open arms, and the Dodgers now have a chance to win it all. Why, because Manny now has a reason to kick some a*ss just like Jackie Robinson did.
JMO
Outhouse to the Penthouse: Jason Bay
Hey Jason, in case you don't have any idea what it looks like, that's a sellout you're playing in front off. Those are accomplished, professional hitters around you in the lineup. Good luck. You won't be pitched around anymore.
Hey Jason, in case you don't have any idea what it looks like, that's a sellout you're playing in front off. Those are accomplished, professional hitters around you in the lineup. Good luck. You won't be pitched around anymore.
Dogging it on the field is not entertaining. Manny started dogging it to force a trade. That's his level of maturity and professionalism.quote:Originally posted by LLorton:
Manny doesn't realize it yet but he is a lot better off on the West Coast. Teams that don't appreciate talent with a personality don't understand that keeps the team loose. Clowning around is part of baseball, if you don't believe that watch what happens at almost every ball park in between innings with the mascots, the parodies and whinnie races.
It's all about entertaining the fans, that the new paradigm in baseball is "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT". The old grumps want the fans to sit on their hands and pretend to be soooo polite. That's garbage. Long ago fans use to really get envolved with their teams and voiced their approval and disapproval vociferously.
Now you go to a ball park and you'd think you are at the cemetery its so quiet. Baseball has changed so much since I played as I kid I don't bother going to the games anymore. Rather watch it on TV in my house where I can scream yell and shout appreciative when I see a good play and derogatorily when it is warranted.
The peeps in L.A. will welcome Manny Ramirez with open arms, and the Dodgers now have a chance to win it all. Why, because Manny now has a reason to kick some a*ss just like Jackie Robinson did.
JMO
RJM said: Outhouse to the Penthouse: Jason Bay
and then he said: Dogging it on the field is not entertaining. Manny started dogging it to force a trade. That's his level of maturity and professionalism.
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From a ball player with game, to a dirt dog wannabe...what's a dirt dog.
Manny got what he wanted so you tell me who was smarter?
JMO
and then he said: Dogging it on the field is not entertaining. Manny started dogging it to force a trade. That's his level of maturity and professionalism.
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From a ball player with game, to a dirt dog wannabe...what's a dirt dog.
Manny got what he wanted so you tell me who was smarter?
JMO
Bottom line is this:
Who do you want up with the game on the line? A big game for that matter? Manny or Bay?
Who do you want up with the game on the line? A big game for that matter? Manny or Bay?
quote:Manny doesn't realize it yet but he is a lot better off on the West Coast. Teams that don't appreciate talent with a personality don't understand that keeps the team loose. Clowning around is part of baseball, if you don't believe that watch what happens at almost every ball park in between innings with the mascots, the parodies and whinnie races.
It's all about entertaining the fans, that the new paradigm in baseball is "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT". The old grumps want the fans to sit on their hands and pretend to be soooo polite. That's garbage.
You mean where they show up in the 3rd inning and leave by the 7th inning? Yeah! They appreciate entertainment.
How many penants has that looseness won for West Coast teams in the past decade?
quote:Long ago fans use to really get envolved with their teams and voiced their approval and disapproval vociferously.
Now you go to a ball park and you'd think you are at the cemetery its so quiet.
You've never neen to, or watched, a game at Fenway, Yankee Stadium, or any other big market East Coast team if you're making that statement.
quote:You've never neen to, or watched, a game at Fenway, Yankee Stadium, or any other big market East Coast team if you're making that statement.
That's why I predict Manny won't stay in LA. He'll get bored with that atmosphere by September. He needs to play for for teams line the Red Sox and the Yankees. Yankees have to go after him for next year so this way, he can stick it to Boston and pour gasoline on the fire of the rivalry.
Manny definitely doesn't belong in LA
the sox do (or did) have a way of getting rid of players, and signing big name used to be's. jack clark,jeff reardon,tom seaver,and blowing off guys like clemens, fisk, evens. all though that was old ownership, it still happened.
he was a touchhole but i liked him. and no matter where manny goes or how much he gets paid............i will still have to go to work. good luck to him.
he was a touchhole but i liked him. and no matter where manny goes or how much he gets paid............i will still have to go to work. good luck to him.
I think this was the second worst trade in the history of the Boston franchise. They should have paid him handsomely - he earned it. I don't agree with how Manny went about it (dogging to get a new contract) but the object of the game is to win and Boston should have stepped up before it got this far. No more World Championships for Boston imho. They just traded the best clutch player in baseball. A guy, because of his simple nature, was oblivious to pressure. Those types of players are once in a lifetime types. This reminds me of when Paul O'Neil retired with the Yankees. They have won zero titles since. If I were the Yankees, I would throw boatloads of money at him.
Here was the most interesting stat I heard this evening. The Red Sox won more playoff series in the 7 Manny Rameriez years than they did in the previous 80 combined before he arrived. Have fun winning without him because they won't imho.
Here was the most interesting stat I heard this evening. The Red Sox won more playoff series in the 7 Manny Rameriez years than they did in the previous 80 combined before he arrived. Have fun winning without him because they won't imho.
There comes a time that the baggage a player brings with him out weighs the good he brings on the field. In Manny's case in the batters box. You can bet that the players in that club house had some say in this move including the Manager. They have their two WS rings. The pressure is off. In the long run they will be better off without his distractions imo. I know many will disagree with me on this that is fine. But they are better off with Bay and the loss of the distraction that Manny was.
Manny now realizes how Barry Bonds felt...after laying it on the line and basically carrying his team kicking and screaming across to championship trophies, he can't overcome the egomaniacal stupidity of sports writers, General Managers, and Team Owners. Only true baseball knowledgeable fans understand the value of the 5 tool talent that Bonds and the Ramariz's represent to the a team.
Even Bill and Hillary Clinton know now...It's about winning stupid.
JMO
Even Bill and Hillary Clinton know now...It's about winning stupid.
JMO
quote:Originally posted by Coach May:
There comes a time that the baggage a player brings with him out weighs the good he brings on the field. In Manny's case in the batters box. You can bet that the players in that club house had some say in this move including the Manager. They have their two WS rings. The pressure is off. In the long run they will be better off without his distractions imo. I know many will disagree with me on this that is fine. But they are better off with Bay and the loss of the distraction that Manny was.
I agree 100% that is one way of handling the situation now. Why not pony up the money before it got out of hand and handle all this behind closed doors? I believe management deserves some of the blame here. I believe Josh Beckett got a big contract and the last I checked, he has only won 1 ring for them.
Having a disgruntled employee is one thing; having one that is arguably the centerpiece of your organization is another. I don't see how the Sox could have repaired that relation$hip without sacrificing their collective soul. They had to jettison him, but I'm surprised they didn't get more in return
Not a Dodger fan
but I'm happy to have him on the West Coast. Sure makes things more interesting! I think Colletti made a very good trade, but he still needs to find a SS. Could we see Omar playing SS at Chavez Ravine before it's all said and done?
Not a Dodger fan
Coach May said: There comes a time that the baggage a player brings with him out weighs the good he brings on the field. In Manny's case in the batters box. You can bet that the players in that club house had some say in this move including the Manager. They have their two WS rings. The pressure is off. In the long run they will be better off without his distractions imo. I know many will disagree with me on this that is fine. But they are better off with Bay and the loss of the distraction that Manny was.
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Manny has not been a distraction to people who want to win...only those that don't mind been a loser.
JMO
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Manny has not been a distraction to people who want to win...only those that don't mind been a loser.
JMO
Manny is not a five tool player. He is an incredible hitter.
Bonds is not a five tool player. He is an incredible hitter.
How many WS titles did Bonds carry the Giants to?
If Manny carried Boston to two WS titles then why could Bonds not carry SF to at least one?
Could it be that the pitching that Boston had is what finally took them over the top?
Its a matter of personal opinion. You have the opinion that Manny was not treated fairly and they should have paid him. Thats fine.
Bonds is not a five tool player. He is an incredible hitter.
How many WS titles did Bonds carry the Giants to?
If Manny carried Boston to two WS titles then why could Bonds not carry SF to at least one?
Could it be that the pitching that Boston had is what finally took them over the top?
Its a matter of personal opinion. You have the opinion that Manny was not treated fairly and they should have paid him. Thats fine.
David Ortiz made the differance in Boston, Manny's a great hitter.
He need's a new start in LA, Plus get a haircut.
He look's stupid. Really does look stupid on a baseball player to have that kind of Doo on the top of your head.
It's the Manager's fault for allowing player's to dogg it on the field are when running out a pop up.
Billy Martin was right for chewing out Reggie Jackson, He may not of done it in a suttle manner. But thats the way the game is supposed to be played.
Hustle, hustle, hustle.
I know thats not in the MLB game, But fan's appreciate a player that does.
EH
He need's a new start in LA, Plus get a haircut.
He look's stupid. Really does look stupid on a baseball player to have that kind of Doo on the top of your head.
It's the Manager's fault for allowing player's to dogg it on the field are when running out a pop up.
Billy Martin was right for chewing out Reggie Jackson, He may not of done it in a suttle manner. But thats the way the game is supposed to be played.
Hustle, hustle, hustle.
I know thats not in the MLB game, But fan's appreciate a player that does.
EH
LL,
Are you are preaching to the choir, or Coach May?
I think he knows a 5 tooler when he sees one. Trust me on this one.
JMO
Are you are preaching to the choir, or Coach May?
I think he knows a 5 tooler when he sees one. Trust me on this one.
JMO
So what your saying is every player that makes it to the Majors is a 5 tool player?
Your misinformed.
Anyone that says Manny and Barry are five tool players is wrong.
Five tool players - Plus arm , plus speed , plus average , plus power , plus defender. So your saying Manny is a plus player in all these areas?
I appreciate the numbers you posted. I appreciate the time and effort. But your still wrong LL.
Your misinformed.
Anyone that says Manny and Barry are five tool players is wrong.
Five tool players - Plus arm , plus speed , plus average , plus power , plus defender. So your saying Manny is a plus player in all these areas?
I appreciate the numbers you posted. I appreciate the time and effort. But your still wrong LL.
TPM
Out of respect for the coach I deleted the question.
Bonds and Ramariz are 5 tool players. They can hit for power, hit for average, can steal a base, field their position, and have strong accurate throwing arms.
but that's JMO
Out of respect for the coach I deleted the question.
Bonds and Ramariz are 5 tool players. They can hit for power, hit for average, can steal a base, field their position, and have strong accurate throwing arms.
but that's JMO
LL, you deleted your post defining tools. lol
Manny does not possess a strong arm. He has a quick and accurate sidearm release, like a middle infielder.
Nor, does he possess speed.
Oh, and, yeah, he has a cement glove.
He is a one trick pony. Hitting. It may be the most important trick, but one trick only.
The Sox felt he was worth the cost at 29-30-31, etc. But, to give him a four year contract at an age when his skills will further diminish would be lousy business. Imagine his defensive skills declining. He needs to be signed as a DH if planning for the 3-4th years of that contract. Boston already has a DH, and a clutch one at that.
Long term competitive teams know when a players value has diminshed below his cost. They were right on Damon. They were right on Pedro. They will be right on Manny.
Manny does not possess a strong arm. He has a quick and accurate sidearm release, like a middle infielder.
Nor, does he possess speed.
Oh, and, yeah, he has a cement glove.
He is a one trick pony. Hitting. It may be the most important trick, but one trick only.
The Sox felt he was worth the cost at 29-30-31, etc. But, to give him a four year contract at an age when his skills will further diminish would be lousy business. Imagine his defensive skills declining. He needs to be signed as a DH if planning for the 3-4th years of that contract. Boston already has a DH, and a clutch one at that.
Long term competitive teams know when a players value has diminshed below his cost. They were right on Damon. They were right on Pedro. They will be right on Manny.
They can hit for average.
They can hit for power.
Bonds no longer has plus speed but did.
Manny never had plus speed. If he did it would not matter anyway becuase he isnt going to use it.
Manny is far from a plus defender in fact he is a liability on defense.
Bonds was a plus defender early in his career.
Both of them have weak arms.
LL are you serious?
Please tell me your pulling my leg on this one?
And Johnny Damon has a HOSE from Centerfield!!
They are both incredible hitters. And you can live with less than plus areas when you mash like they can.
Hey Benji Molina is a Five Tool player too right? Hes in the Majors.
They can hit for power.
Bonds no longer has plus speed but did.
Manny never had plus speed. If he did it would not matter anyway becuase he isnt going to use it.
Manny is far from a plus defender in fact he is a liability on defense.
Bonds was a plus defender early in his career.
Both of them have weak arms.
LL are you serious?
Please tell me your pulling my leg on this one?
And Johnny Damon has a HOSE from Centerfield!!
They are both incredible hitters. And you can live with less than plus areas when you mash like they can.
Hey Benji Molina is a Five Tool player too right? Hes in the Majors.
Coach May & wayback
Just go to
Ramariz
http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/ramirma02.shtml
Bonds
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bondsba01.shtml
The hype of your dislike of a player is usually whinny cry baby sports writer tripe because they didn't get the intervier and Bonds and Ramariz won't kiss their behinds and make nice...none of the garbage that is being said about these two great players match up with the records.
Plus to me means impact player...can they change the momentum of a game? The answer is yes....that's plus plus plus plus plus...5 pluses for 5 tools.
JMO
Just go to
Ramariz
http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/ramirma02.shtml
Bonds
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/bondsba01.shtml
The hype of your dislike of a player is usually whinny cry baby sports writer tripe because they didn't get the intervier and Bonds and Ramariz won't kiss their behinds and make nice...none of the garbage that is being said about these two great players match up with the records.
Plus to me means impact player...can they change the momentum of a game? The answer is yes....that's plus plus plus plus plus...5 pluses for 5 tools.
JMO
Are they great players? Yes. Are they impact players? Yes. Are they 5 tool players. No.
I love to watch Manny hit. He is a tremendous talent at the plate.
He is a defensive liability that he overcomes with his ability to drive in runs and get clutch hits. And the fact he has to cover as much ground as a typical hs field at Fenway.
Everyone is not going to agree with you LL. That does not mean you have to get upset about it. You just do not understand the meaning of "Five Tool Player"
A five tool player has PLUS tools in all five areas.
Power - Yes
Average - Yes
Defense - No
Arm - No
Speed - No
He is so good at the two tools that are the two most important for a left fielder that the other three are overlooked.
Now that is just a fact.
I love to watch Manny hit. He is a tremendous talent at the plate.
He is a defensive liability that he overcomes with his ability to drive in runs and get clutch hits. And the fact he has to cover as much ground as a typical hs field at Fenway.
Everyone is not going to agree with you LL. That does not mean you have to get upset about it. You just do not understand the meaning of "Five Tool Player"
A five tool player has PLUS tools in all five areas.
Power - Yes
Average - Yes
Defense - No
Arm - No
Speed - No
He is so good at the two tools that are the two most important for a left fielder that the other three are overlooked.
Now that is just a fact.
That is an impressive display of offensive stats. He is one of the top handful of RH hitters to ever play the game. He has a sweet, easy swing. My son and I watch it over and over.
But, at age 36-37-38, will he continue to produce at that rate? But, using your own evidence, check his average slugging percentage from 1998 -2002 (approx .650). What's he doing last year and this year? (.511) What's he going to do in 2-3 years? Is it going to be worth $20 mil guaranteed for 4 more years?
The fielding stats don't show you the balls that he let land because of lack of hustle, or flat out misplayed it. They don't show you the runner who got an extra base because he dogged chasing after the ball. Again, his skills are not going to improve 3 years from now. The odds are they will decline (they are already average to below average).
Those are things you see by watching the game, not the stat sheet. He has your respect so much that you haven't spelled his name correctly...not once. Williams never had that problem. Yastrzemski never had that problem.
I personally despise when media guys try to put momentum into their personal agendas.
But, this isn't about that. It's about value and costs. Manny's costs outweigh his value when looking at a 4 year contract. A good GM is thinking win today without sacrificing tomorrow. So, it's the right move.
They could not keep him beyond this year. Boras was going to make sure Manny sabotaged the relationship because he wanted a guranteed minimum of 4 years, not 2 one year club options.. So, their options were to keep him for the balance of the year and get two compensatory picks. Or, trade him for an All-star player. It's still the right move.
He was paid for his past production. Will he produce to earn that same pay moving forward?
But, at age 36-37-38, will he continue to produce at that rate? But, using your own evidence, check his average slugging percentage from 1998 -2002 (approx .650). What's he doing last year and this year? (.511) What's he going to do in 2-3 years? Is it going to be worth $20 mil guaranteed for 4 more years?
The fielding stats don't show you the balls that he let land because of lack of hustle, or flat out misplayed it. They don't show you the runner who got an extra base because he dogged chasing after the ball. Again, his skills are not going to improve 3 years from now. The odds are they will decline (they are already average to below average).
Those are things you see by watching the game, not the stat sheet. He has your respect so much that you haven't spelled his name correctly...not once. Williams never had that problem. Yastrzemski never had that problem.
I personally despise when media guys try to put momentum into their personal agendas.
But, this isn't about that. It's about value and costs. Manny's costs outweigh his value when looking at a 4 year contract. A good GM is thinking win today without sacrificing tomorrow. So, it's the right move.
They could not keep him beyond this year. Boras was going to make sure Manny sabotaged the relationship because he wanted a guranteed minimum of 4 years, not 2 one year club options.. So, their options were to keep him for the balance of the year and get two compensatory picks. Or, trade him for an All-star player. It's still the right move.
He was paid for his past production. Will he produce to earn that same pay moving forward?
quote:Originally posted by zombywoof:
Another superstar ran out of Boston.
Red Sox are done now and Yankees will conquer the AL East now that Manny's with Sleepy Joe.
Would've like to see the Yankees get him to fill their LF and big bat need but trading him out of the league to a team who don't appear to be much of a threat to make a world series run is the next best thing.
DOn't worry; he will be a free agent at the end of the year and I guarantee the Yankee's will overpay him and he will be in pinstripes next year.
As a Red Sox fan; GOOD RIDENCE!
quote:Originally posted by zombywoof:
Another superstar ran out of Boston.
Red Sox are done now and Yankees will conquer the AL East now that Manny's with Sleepy Joe.
Would've like to see the Yankees get him to fill their LF and big bat need but trading him out of the league to a team who don't appear to be much of a threat to make a world series run is the next best thing.
Not sure I'd count the Dodgers out just yet, they are only 1/2 game out of 1st in their division.
Both players OBP around .450, Slug% around .600 amd fielding at 98%. That's All-star caliber quality. Hitting over .300 and last time I checked stolen base % is a function of situation and called by the coaches. The NL plays a different game with no DH that impacts Ramirez's numbers.
What's amazing to me is two great players, and it seems to me the sports writers are in cahoots with the MLB is in the process of trying to destroy both of these players career legacy's.
For those of you who think Jason Bay is going to be better for the Sox put this stat in your calculation...As ESPN reports Jason Bay though stats very comparable to Ramirez for 2008 season but not close with runners in scoring position BA .219. Ramirez BA with runners in scoring position .309 I think the Dodgers will gain ground and the Sox won't make the playoffs this season.
Heard comments by Curt Schilling about Ramirez and he went into everything about the man except what's important in baseball...can he play, and is he a winner. Curt Schilling just show'd me something that tell's me why the Sox are not a good organization. Who the he*ll is Schilling to be judging anyone, the big phony!!!
Welcome to the Dodgers, Manny
JMO
What's amazing to me is two great players, and it seems to me the sports writers are in cahoots with the MLB is in the process of trying to destroy both of these players career legacy's.
For those of you who think Jason Bay is going to be better for the Sox put this stat in your calculation...As ESPN reports Jason Bay though stats very comparable to Ramirez for 2008 season but not close with runners in scoring position BA .219. Ramirez BA with runners in scoring position .309 I think the Dodgers will gain ground and the Sox won't make the playoffs this season.
Heard comments by Curt Schilling about Ramirez and he went into everything about the man except what's important in baseball...can he play, and is he a winner. Curt Schilling just show'd me something that tell's me why the Sox are not a good organization. Who the he*ll is Schilling to be judging anyone, the big phony!!!
Welcome to the Dodgers, Manny
JMO