Toney is correct. Your son has seen him and told one of our guys that he has really worked hard on his hitting, and looks like the real deal in every way. Toney is a very bright guy, tons of personality, and looks like what you'd get if you asked Central Casting to bring you a catcher. I hope all is well with you. 

@hokieone posted:

Toney is correct. Your son has seen him and told one of our guys that he has really worked hard on his hitting, and looks like the real deal in every way. Toney is a very bright guy, tons of personality, and looks like what you'd get if you asked Central Casting to bring you a catcher. I hope all is well with you. 

Wow, that's Toney to the tee. Great family. A great lesson for everyone. He sat behind Pages all last season, they came to just about every game. Supported the team.  Learned a lot from the guy in front of him. They were really enjoying this season.  

What a shame, for everyone.

 

This is a good oped today from Dr. Murphy; chairman of the Department of Emergency Medicine at St. Barnabas Hospital in the Bronx.   A very hard-hit area.  It's his view on why we need to open based on his personal experience.    His argument is different but his recommendation is the same as Dr. Erickson. 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/...to-start-opening-up/

Interesting, thanks.  Much more of an anecdotal take on the current situation. I hope he's right!

This is a good oped today from Dr. Murphy; chairman of the Department of Emergency Medicine at St. Barnabas Hospital in the Bronx.   A very hard-hit area.  It's his view on why we need to open based on his personal experience.    His argument is different but his recommendation is the same as Dr. Erickson. 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/...to-start-opening-up/

I hate arguing about coronavirus on this forum.  Can people please stop posting this sort of thing, unless they are directly relevant to sports?  I started to write a long response to this, which I'm not going to put here, because this thread is about summer collegiate baseball.

Son's summer league is one that thinks they are going to happen (no host families).  I guess we'll see.  At this point I'd be up for lots of local collegiate games instead.

Gunner thanks again for posting the link tho the NY post article. And AP, I understand and appreciate your frustration. You are correct. There is no need for for arguments. I enjoy the sharing of information. I think we are all mourning the loss of our so called normal “baseball lives”. For some, of us, research and reading helps get us through the grief process right now, because that’s what this is, a grieving process. So it’s really ok to share our grief, hopes, aspirations. And we all don’t need to agree with one another on each and every thing. Some people need to get negative feelings off their chest. Some need to look for a shred of hope. Some of us vacillate back and forth. It’s all good. 

I hate arguing about coronavirus on this forum.  Can people please stop posting this sort of thing, unless they are directly relevant to sports?  I started to write a long response to this, which I'm not going to put here, because this thread is about summer collegiate baseball.

Son's summer league is one that thinks they are going to happen (no host families).  I guess we'll see.  At this point I'd be up for lots of local collegiate games instead.

You don't have to reply or refute everything Covid related but I get your point about posting in this thread.  Green shoots are good and I thought posters would like to hear positive perspectives from healthcare workers in the hottest of zones (very near me).   The sooner we open the sooner baseball starts and that is the relevance.  Not sure why someone would want to argue about or write a long response to Op Ed from the Chairman in charge of Emergency Medicine.  Its an informed opinion - an OpEd.

My son's summer team just called and is getting prepared to ramp up once CT is open.  It's not a big league that requires host families so there is not that issue that many of you face.  Good luck to all.  Before I get jumped on like the last time I posted about summer baseball, there will be no public gatherings of teammates until the state opens.  

 

@RoadRunner posted:

Gunner thanks again for posting the link tho the NY post article. And AP, I understand and appreciate your frustration. You are correct. There is no need for for arguments. I enjoy the sharing of information. I think we are all mourning the loss of our so called normal “baseball lives”. For some, of us, research and reading helps get us through the grief process right now, because that’s what this is, a grieving process. So it’s really ok to share our grief, hopes, aspirations. And we all don’t need to agree with one another on each and every thing. Some people need to get negative feelings off their chest. Some need to look for a shred of hope. Some of us vacillate back and forth. It’s all good. 

Yep, for sure it can help.  I have really appreciated all the links to articles of various types, but I thought I was posting too much.  Also, it derails the purpose of these threads.  The one thread about coronavirus was good, until it was shut down! 

I did not find this to be an informed article, or at least, it didn't discuss the subject on which the author had the most information.  This is an ER doctor, not an infectious disease specialist or an epidemiologist, and his argument is based entirely on his intuition, not on science or "data" that is available anywhere but in this article.  He says his primary worry is that people aren't going for medical care for other issues. That is an issue of educating the public, which has nothing to do with "rapidly going back to work".  The "going back to work" is because he wants herd immunity, which is  a legitimate argument up to a point, but it comes with the cost of more deaths, which he doesn't talk about.  He is an ER doctor; if he had talked about the deaths he had seen in his ER, who was dying, and why he thought more of that sort of death is acceptable (it was inevitable for those people anyway?  it was their fault for being fat and out of shape?), then his argument would have more credibility.  But he didn't offer that, which is the only thing on which he does have genuine expertise.

For residents of Northern Virginia/DC and Maryland, the NVTBL is working on a summer collegiate league. Supposedly they have over 150 players so far. There is an option on the interest form the player can check if he is committed to another league and another option to check if this will be their primary league.

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AP it was an opinion piece that lacked data. Instead the doc shared observations. All good. 
Right now I am really scared. I am less scared of the virus than I am of the side effects of the virus. Mostly about our economy and liberties. I am seeing the effects and I am scared to death. Right now I have concerns about more people being negatively effected by economic issues than the virus itself. I don’t have any numbers. And I’m not worried so much about 401ks, savings etc. I’m more concerned people having food and a place to live. I don’t know anyone that has died from the virus, but I do know people that have lost their jobs and are suffering other ways as a result of the virus. So that is my perspective and observations. I do not live in NY, or NJ, etc. I’m sure they are suffering in a different way right now. 

Yep, for sure it can help.  I have really appreciated all the links to articles of various types, but I thought I was posting too much.  Also, it derails the purpose of these threads.  The one thread about coronavirus was good, until it was shut down! 

I did not find this to be an informed article, or at least, it didn't discuss the subject on which the author had the most information.  This is an ER doctor, not an infectious disease specialist or an epidemiologist, and his argument is based entirely on his intuition, not on science or "data" that is available anywhere but in this article.  He says his primary worry is that people aren't going for medical care for other issues. That is an issue of educating the public, which has nothing to do with "rapidly going back to work".  The "going back to work" is because he wants herd immunity, which is  a legitimate argument up to a point, but it comes with the cost of more deaths, which he doesn't talk about.  He is an ER doctor; if he had talked about the deaths he had seen in his ER, who was dying, and why he thought more of that sort of death is acceptable (it was inevitable for those people anyway?  it was their fault for being fat and out of shape?), then his argument would have more credibility.  But he didn't offer that, which is the only thing on which he does have genuine expertise.

I am happy I shared his perspective and found his opinion very informative.   Sorry it rankled you.  Off to catch the lefty now.

@JCG posted:

I'm not going to post either links or text or argue the issue, but I do think that people who have viewed Dr. Erickson's video (I'm among them) should know that there are other medical doctors say that his math and conclusions are deeply flawed.

You don’t ban debate because you disagree.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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@RoadRunner posted:

AP it was an opinion piece that lacked data. Instead the doc shared observations. All good. 
Right now I am really scared. I am less scared of the virus than I am of the side effects of the virus. Mostly about our economy and liberties. I am seeing the effects and I am scared to death. Right now I have concerns about more people being negatively effected by economic issues than the virus itself. I don’t have any numbers. And I’m not worried so much about 401ks, savings etc. I’m more concerned people having food and a place to live. I don’t know anyone that has died from the virus, but I do know people that have lost their jobs and are suffering other ways as a result of the virus. So that is my perspective and observations. I do not live in NY, or NJ, etc. I’m sure they are suffering in a different way right now. 

One thing Dr Erickson said that is indisputable is sheltering from every day life for a long period of time breaks down your immune system. It makes people more vulnerable to every sickness and disease when they get back to the exposure if real life. 

27 million people are out of work. Some are out of money and out of food. Out of their home could be next. A few million of them invested everything they have in their own businesses and are watching them die. 

A friend of mine collects about 10k per month in rent from rental properties. She can’t collect right now. She said given the nature of her renters half will never be able to catch up or even pay when there are less jobs. Many are  hospitality people in a hospitality oriented tourist city. She said they will stay in their homes until they are legally evicted. She expects to lose six or more months rent on each one of these properties while she has to pay to maintain them and pay taxes.

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@RJM posted:

You don’t ban debate because you disagree.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Wut?

Do you think these guys that were supposed to go to the Cape and others will drift down to some of the other leagues?  Coastal Plains is still planning on going but I wonder if their rosters might be inflated?  It would be like a huge free agent draft if they can add guys and these guys have nowhere to go and are the best of the best in most people's minds.

My son was supposed to go to the Cape, but when NCAA ended season his college bumped him to Northwoods, which has not yet cancelled so that's already happening.

 

I would expect every player to have a backup league near their house just in case their primary league gets cancelled. As I mentioned in an earlier post the local travel league is starting a college league here in Northern Virginia. If there are no local college leagues near a player maybe they should contact a local travel league/travel team and see if they are trying to set up a college league. 

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@PitchingFan posted:

Do you think these guys that were supposed to go to the Cape and others will drift down to some of the other leagues?  Coastal Plains is still planning on going but I wonder if their rosters might be inflated?  It would be like a huge free agent draft if they can add guys and these guys have nowhere to go and are the best of the best in most people's minds.

I would assume yes for the draft eligible guys, no for the underclassmen. College kids want to play summer ball, just not at the rate these summer leagues play in. I think if you give them a choice a lot would choose to skip and do their own thing this summer. After all, there are more players than spots with the seniors coming back. Now add at least two cancelled leagues into the mix. 

I don't see summer baseball happening - at least north of the Mason Dixon line. 

Futures League announced a delayed start (from May 28th) but "remain hopeful" about having some sort of season.

Some of the Cape guys are already being added to other rosters in other summer leagues.  I have kid #4 coming to my house this summer (hopefully mid June to begin workouts and July to start play).

@BrownIndian posted:

I was told that The Northwoods League is going to publicize their plan for the summer today at 12 pm. CST.

Keeping my fingers crossed it’s a plan to play. Son lIves about two hours from his assigned team. They asked earlier this week if he’d be willing to stay home and just drive over for games he is to pitch. You betcha!!

What is the Carolina Beach League?  It's not in any of the info my googling skills allow me to discover...

@T_Thomas posted:

What is the Carolina Beach League?  It's not in any of the info my googling skills allow me to discover...

https://beachcollegiatebaseball.com/

I think it's mostly D3, and it doesn't say that they are opening on their web iste, but that's what she posted. Maybe got contact to players from league before they posted on their web site??

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