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TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
Eric,
You should go to the NCAA site and download the recruiting guide, it will help you with the many questions you come here to ask, which can be found, but you need to take some responsibility to do your own homework.

Or do you just need to let us know that a coach is coming to see your player?
D 2013 Dad100+ posts
TPM, IMO you seem to come off quite hostile whenever there is a question on this site to which the answer may be available elsewhere. It's a pretty snobbish attitude to tell someone to "do your own homework", IMO, or question the motive for the post, implying the OP is trying to brag. Seemingly this type of "don't bother us with your silly questions" approach is practiced by quite a few "old timers" (by no means all of them). I just think it is belittling to tell someone who simply seeks advice as to a topic he or she is unsure of. After all, isn't that what this Board is for???
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ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
quote:
Originally posted by 2013 Dad:
TPM, IMO you seem to come off quite hostile whenever there is a question on this site to which the answer may be available elsewhere. It's a pretty snobbish attitude to tell someone to "do your own homework", IMO. Or question the motive for the post, implying the OP is trying to brag. Seemingly this type of "don't bother us with your silly questions" approach is practiced by quite a few "old timers" (by no means not all). I just think it is belittling to tell someone who simply seeks advice as to a topic he or she is unsure of. After all, isn't that what this Board is for???

Respectfully disagree and I support TPM on this one. The board is not for veiled announcements or manipulation by ego-driven parents.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
quote:
Originally posted by 2013 Dad:
I agree CD. But TPM is simply making an assumption without any facts to support it. That's the problem. Perhaps Eric simply feels more comfortable getting feedback from experienced people. To just assume Eric is bragging is unfair and uncalled for.


Why is it that some parents can manage to find many multiple bb sites, but can't find the site (which has been repeatedly posted here over the years) for these type of questions? You may not understand that but I don't expect that you or others may.

Let me tell you something 2013 Dad, I have spent years helping people here, offering advice and support. After a while one can pretty much tell what's going on with certain parents, how they don't want to come off as bragging so they use other methods.

Eric G has been around for a long time, he is not a new webster.

I may be wrong but I doubt it very much.

Not everyone has the luxury of such great recruiting experiences, sometimes it's just better to fly under the radar, then let me know when he accepts the offer.
EG Eric G100+ posts
I mean seriously guys, there are times while at work I may not have time to "research" and have a random question that I want to throw out there and I get ripped for it.
I would just as soon you not even open the thread up then to react the way some of you do.
I could care less if it gets 1000 hits and no comments, no sweat.
But to assume I am bragging is ludicrous(sp?)
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
Eric,
Do you have the answer to every question your kids ask, or do you encourage them to look up the answer and educate themselves on the subject?

You as well as others have been directed to the NCAA site on many occassions, however, you could use google and do a search, sometimes you just have to type in the question.

Can a college coach talk to a player if he comes to visit him at a game. Depends on what division, what time of year, etc. Coach May made a great post in another topic, sometimes this process is about personal responsibility.

However, I really don't beleive you come here for answers, you just come here to give updates on your sons recruiting process.

I simply typed in the question you asked, I found the answer (though I knew it), you might want to try to do some research on your own, perhaps not at work if you are busy. I am sure that you didn't need to have that answer ASAP!?!


It's just gotten to be old.
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infielddadinfielddad10,000+ posts
One of the folks we all respect when it comes to the NCAA rule book is 3FG.
One 3/2/11, he seems to have addressed nearly an identical question and provided the Rule:

http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/f...6003481/m/7217065995

If this was a question which arose at work, it certainly seems like the answer was not urgent. The answer was available within a 30 to 60 second search.
Seems like the answer could have been found as fast or faster than the time it took to post.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
I forgot about that infielddad.
You make a good point, sometimes yo can post a question and wait HOURS for the answer. It only takes a few seconds to search.

Just a good example of those that really come to learn (by taking time to read posts by others) and those that come for an agenda.

JMO.
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S Strike 3100+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Eric G:
I apologize for not looking up guys.....not apologizing for any agenda laden tirade that I'm accused of though.


I wouldn't apologize either. If people don't want to help, they shouldn't post anything and let those who are willing to do so. The search function isn't always that friendly and sometimes I don't know the best words to use to search by to get the results I'm seeking.

BTW, my 2012 son hit 87mph on the gun at his tryouts, a new personal best! Woot!
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
quote:
Originally posted by Strike 3:
quote:
Originally posted by Eric G:
I apologize for not looking up guys.....not apologizing for any agenda laden tirade that I'm accused of though.



BTW, my 2012 son hit 87mph on the gun at his tryouts, a new personal best! Woot!


That's fair, just come out and say it, instead of setting up a smoke screen.
GS GA SC Diamond10+ posts
My 2013 son hit 85mph and is pitching Var's line up.
Now thats smoke!

TPM has jumped me before, But has also type things that helped me Hope she keeps it up, when she feels like helping help when she feels like we are wasting space tell us its all good..
One time my topic said UGA bla bla bla, and I put a link to a great site not just about UGA ,
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TPM
HSBBWeb Old Timer

Posted January 30, 2011 08:46 AM
Great news, however if everyone posted the schedule of their fav D1 team we'd be in trouble.
Then gave Her own great link
We win some we lose some.
now Can't we all just get along!
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
quote:
Originally posted by GA SC Diamond:
My 2013 son hit 85mph and is pitching Var's line up.
Now thats smoke!

TPM has jumped me before, But has also type things that helped me Hope she keeps it up, when she feels like helping help when she feels like we are wasting space tell us its all good..
One time my topic said UGA bla bla bla, and I put a link to a great site not just about UGA ,
quote:
TPM
HSBBWeb Old Timer

Posted January 30, 2011 08:46 AM
Great news, however if everyone posted the schedule of their fav D1 team we'd be in trouble.
Then gave Her own great link
We win some we lose some.
now Can't we all just get along!


Should I take that as a compliment?
You know I can be a pain but you do know I will be there to answer any question, and I have done so over and over.
But sometimes there comes a time when some people need to learn to help themselves. After a while, your questions as some beleive, so easy to find the answer, may just be a veil for letting us know about what is happening.
I realize that the recruiting process can make us nuts, it's very nerve racking, calm down relax, some of these questions some ask really have nothing to do with the process, do they? I mean seriously does it matter if the coach can talk to your son, does it matter if your son can sit in the dugout? We've been through it and I can tell you these things don't matter, what matters is the commitment.
Sorry, but on this one, I am not speaking for just myself. You all might want to go back to the topic here in recruiting, Questions or Announcements?
Maybe some people don't get it, maybe that's why I posed my post the way I did. Why not just look it up, then bookmark it for future reference?

And if one is at work, and doesn't have time to research why are you taking the time to ask the question on the HSBBW?
C cb1210+ posts
hmmmmm I'm really new to this board. It has been very helpful. when I saw the topic I was interested because I am also very new to the whole recruiting process with my son. I've searched the internet for answers to some questions that I have with recruiting rules, etc. Sometimes I think I get it, than other times I'm a little confused. I thought about asking more questions on here. Now, I'm a little scared!
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
quote:
Originally posted by Eric G:
Unbelievable. A sincere apology still goes un noticed, did one happen to say TPM was a female? Sorry just had to.
ITS GOTTA be my wife and I just dont know it.


I noticed your apology, but you still ranted.
I have been wrong, I apologize, your comment about me being a female shows you are just stupid or too lazy to do your own due diligence, you must be one of those who are so lazy you need to pick others brains for answers. Roll Eyes I hear that you do frequent other sites, do you ask the same questions there.

cb12,
Don't be afraid to ask questions, you are new and the process is confusing, EG has been around since 06, that's over 5 years, you'd think he may have done some homework by now and learned some things.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
I think that the problem is that people come here with preconceived ideas that their son deserves more than they are getting, everyone su cks. When things don't happen then everything stinks, the coaches stink, the recruiters stink, the showcase and tourney people stink, everyone is just plane no good.

Some folks these days want and feel that people need to do things for them, examples are that they need to make sure they get told the D1 coach shows up, they need every question answered, the HS coach needs to bend to THIER rules or he is bad.

In other words, alot of it is "it's all about me". Not everyone though, I commend each and every parent and player that has taken steps, personal responsibility to see that their player finds the right fit, understands how things work and that takes time, that takes hard work and some just don't want to do it. It doesn't have to take a whole bunch of money either just good planning. It's easy to blame others.

That may not be the case in this topic but seems to be the theme around here lately.
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S Strike 3100+ posts
Still having a hard time seeing how the OP was bragging in his post. He asked if a coach can talk to a player at a HS practice. Didn't reference his son, a coach coming to his practice, etc... For all anyone knows, he could have been asking the question because a teammate, friend, etc... had a coach saying he was coming to or came to a practice. I don't know why everyone has to be so SUSPICIOUS about everything? I guess it's because EVERYONE has a hiddden agenda or motive.

I don't like listening to the dad who can only talk about all of the great things his son does but there was no evidence of that in this post, yet the insinuations started right out of the gate. I'm done.
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Blue10Blue10500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by TPM:
Eric,
Do you have the answer to every question your kids ask, or do you encourage them to look up the answer and educate themselves on the subject?

You as well as others have been directed to the NCAA site on many occassions, however, you could use google and do a search, sometimes you just have to type in the question.

Can a college coach talk to a player if he comes to visit him at a game. Depends on what division, what time of year, etc. Coach May made a great post in another topic, sometimes this process is about personal responsibility.

However, I really don't beleive you come here for answers, you just come here to give updates on your sons recruiting process.

I simply typed in the question you asked, I found the answer (though I knew it), you might want to try to do some research on your own, perhaps not at work if you are busy. I am sure that you didn't need to have that answer ASAP!?!


It's just gotten to be old.


For the sake of argument, let's assume the OP was trying to brag, though I can't see it in his question. I may be overstepping my bounds as a newbie, but I have observed that there have been multiple warm, supportive threads celebrating the accomplishments of HSBBwebbers, especially oldtimers, stemming from posts not implicitly/overtly intended to be "bragging" threads. Perhaps the OP does not have people in his non-virtual community with which he can share his excitement about his son's recruiting process. We all know how it is...the only people who might care may very well have kids who are competing with our own children for playing time, etc. I would hope that this warm, supportive community (I have seen the phrase "HSBBW family" mentioned multiple times)would be receptive to all, no matter how "awkwardly" newcomers may try to enter the group. C'mon guys, it's not high school any more...let's be nice.
BaseballGr8BaseballGr810+ posts
Well according to this website, this is:

Recruiting Questions
This is the place to ask questions and help others with the college recruiting process

I don't understand the problem with the original question either. Are there only certain questions that can be asked? There are thousands of other questions here what is wrong with this particular one? Really, this is why I don't post often.
IB Innocent Bystander500+ posts
In the 5 yrs I've been here I've said some pretty stupid things, in those 5 yrs TPM has never said an unkind word to me and has always been helpful. The lord knows TPM has had plenty of reasons to put me in my place! Smile
There have been a few others that I've disagreed with and hopefully I've learned from those experiences. My kids didn't always agree with me and they sometimes came up with the usual childish remarks that we as adults sometimes resort to. I've been guilty of that very thing many times.
C cbg500+ posts
Was this site not established to help/aid families with questions about both high school and college baseball. I don't see what the big deal is with someone asking a simple question. If for some reason you don't wish to respond that is fine but why put someone down if they ask for help because next time it could be you asking for the assistance.
ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
quote:
Originally posted by Eric G:
Thanks Strike3 and Lovethegame, my points exactly. Thread should end now.

Please quit playing the victim card here. None of these other posters are creating these innane topics that can be answered with a 20 second search. I don't know what your motives are but these type of topics are an afront to the logical operations of the board.

There is no clique of insider-oldtimers here. A single, mother of four, first time poster who asked the same question would have gotten different treatment. You've been a member (not victim) here since 2006 and your question has been answered dozens and dozens of times before. You created a similar topic a few weeks back where you wanted to know if your kid was a prospect if he was invited to junior day. What in the he-ll do you think Eric? Are they inviting spelling bee and chess champions to junior days or are they inviting baseball players?

Same here. Why do you think a coach is coming to watch your kid play? Why do you need to start an innane, convoluted topic on the subject. Why not wait until the coach visits and post in our high school thread on what he said or didn't say. Why not read the rule book yourself?

Sorry, we are the victims here. Only a few members here abuse the board like this and frankly you are the leader of the club. No idea what your motivations are but kindly find this information on your own or wait and see what happens.
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RB Rockford Baseball Mom100+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by TPM:
cb12,
Don't be afraid to ask questions, you are new and the process is confusing, EG has been around since 06, that's over 5 years, you'd think he may have done some homework by now and learned some things.


I'm fairly new here too and have always felt like I received polite and helpful responses. I do try to do my homework, and in one case even provided the appropriate link to a parent trying to determine the eligibility of a high school course with the Eligibility Center. Once I replied no one else did - the answer was there and we were done.

This is a great resource for those of us who do have first-timer questions and by and large I find the participants of all tenures to be very knowledgeable. I also feel comfortable that if/when the day comes that I have exciting news to share about my son it will be received in the spirit in which it is intended. As will my posts about our disappointments. The key is I will be honest about both.
ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
quote:
Originally posted by Rockford Baseball Mom:
quote:
Originally posted by TPM:
cb12,
Don't be afraid to ask questions, you are new and the process is confusing, EG has been around since 06, that's over 5 years, you'd think he may have done some homework by now and learned some things.


I'm fairly new here too and have always felt like I received polite and helpful responses. I do try to do my homework, and in one case even provided the appropriate link to a parent trying to determine the eligibility of a high school course with the Eligibility Center. Once I replied no one else did - the answer was there and we were done.

This is a great resource for those of us who do have first-timer questions and by and large I find the participants of all tenures to be very knowledgeable. I also feel comfortable that if/when the day comes that I have exciting news to share about my son it will be received in the spirit in which it is intended. As will my posts about our disappointments. The key is I will be honest about both.

Fabulous post. Best one I have seen in this thread
BaseballGr8BaseballGr810+ posts
Not speaking for anyone else, but I have no idea of this posters "history". I only saw the original question and all that followed. I come to this site and read everyday, but not every post/thread. I don't know all the ins and outs of all the posters, as I'm sure many others don't either. Regardless of what else might go on, I will come here everyday and read as I always do. I don't feel like I lose out because I don't jump in and ask questions more often. Alot of the questions and topics are relavent to me as a parent of a HS player, whether or not I actually asked the question myself.
I wanted to add that I say this with all due respect to the posters who do contribute alot and often. They are the ones who help keep the board going day in and day out.
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C cb1210+ posts
When I saw the topic, I too was interested. I am not bragging, but I do know that a college coach has contacted our high school coach about coming to watch my son at practice. My friends asked, "are they allowed to talk to him at practice?" I answered, " I don't know!" Lo and behold...someone asked that very same question on here. I thought to myself "Great! These seem to be knowledgeable people who can help answer this question. Now I won't have to go searching through the NCAA rules to find out! Thank God because I find some of the rules a little confusing!" However...what I got was alot of complaining about Eric. I don't know hime and I don't know his history. Quite frankly, I don't care. Let him brag about his son in a subliminal way. Who cares! I am a newbie and was looking for a simple answer. I'm still not sure if the question was ever answered. So, I'll ask it again...Can a college coach speak to a player at practice? My son is a junior and I really am just curious.
Thank You!
ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
quote:
Originally posted by cb12:
When I saw the topic, I too was interested. I am not bragging, but I do know that a college coach has contacted our high school coach about coming to watch my son at practice. My friends asked, "are they allowed to talk to him at practice?" I answered, " I don't know!" Lo and behold...someone asked that very same question on here. I thought to myself "Great! These seem to be knowledgeable people who can help answer this question. Now I won't have to go searching through the NCAA rules to find out! Thank God because I find some of the rules a little confusing!" However...what I got was alot of complaining about Eric. I don't know hime and I don't know his history. Quite frankly, I don't care. Let him brag about his son in a subliminal way. Who cares! I am a newbie and was looking for a simple answer. I'm still not sure if the question was ever answered. So, I'll ask it again...Can a college coach speak to a player at practice? My son is a junior and I really am just curious.
Thank You!

Say what? You asked this very question on March 1st and 3FG gave you and Eric the exact answer. Why are you asking the same question now? Unbelievable. Please review the thread YOU started on March 1st Roll Eyes
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C cb1210+ posts
ClevelandDad...did you read my original question (March 1st one you are referring to) I asked if they can come to a practice...I did not ask if they could "talk" to the player. I didn't think about it when I first asked. I also didn't think to ask that first time if the rules are different for my son, who is a junior, verses if he were a senior. I am SOOOOOO sorry for my ignorance. I can't believe how this whole thread is going. Wow...this is certainly not the way to welcome a newbie. Is this the way it is on here....ask a "stupid" question in the eyes of the long time users and you get harassed. Wow!
YoungGunDadYoungGunDadHSBaseballWeb member since 2005
I have read every single one of these posts from the beginning to the end.

As a long time contributor, fan, and supporter of this site and many, many of the Posters on here I have to say that I am quite disappointed at the assault that has been launched upon some of these Posters on here asking relatively simple questions. All I could think about while reading the blasts from some of the "old timers" was if I was a newbie and this had been me I would've ran from this place as fast as I could. Not everyone always knows where to go look for answers whether they have been on here 1yr or 10yrs. It can be at times still overwhelming reading the NCAA rules on certain topics and rules. What does it matter if a Poster appears lazy and simply ask a question? What if they ask and could care less how long it takes for it to be answered? Why does any Poster EVER have to explain themselves as to why they are asking a question? They shouldn't. If one doesn't like the Post and/or question, simply don't reply and/or stay away. No need for cyber bullying which to all accounts this is how this thread has become.

Shame on you for lamblasting these posters on here. I was astonished to see such an affront by each of you. All that simply could have been done was point him/her to 3FG who is always happy and ready to give a helping hand OR let one of the people in the know give advise. What if 3FG always came across as belittling to the countless Posters always asking for clarification on NCAA rules? Folks would inevitably quit asking. Then no one would learn.

To you new folks, PLEASE don't leave. I promise that there are many, many Posters on here who are chomping at the bit to help answer questions, support you, not assume anything about you, and point you in the right direction. Just give us a chance. As had been said so many times on here before baseball will end for our son(s) one way or another. Unfortunately when that happens it will also end for us Parents. Our days of coming to sites like this will simply wane and fade away. So as we disappear over the horizon we need the likes of you on here helping pass the torch to the next player and family that comes along.

YGD
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
YGD,
You and I have been friends for a long time.
I was the first to post a reply and I feel that I owe no apologies for my response.
Please tell me when a question has been asked here and not answered?

BTW, it works both ways, the OP has been around here long enough to know that 3FG knows his stuff, correct? Why not contact him? Why should I or anyone else have to tell him that?

If for one single minute I thought that the OP was incapable of finding the answer then I would have helped with giving it.

I am curious, wonder if the OP can come back with the answer as it has not been revealed (I asked 3FG to drop in by the way). Has the OP took the initiative to look up the answer or contact 3FG?

I would bet not, because I do beleive, and sticking to my beleif, that was not the real intent of the post.

JMO and I am sticking to it.
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EG Eric G100+ posts
TPM,

I think I got it.

Yes, basically a college coach cannot evaluate or make in-person, off-campus contact with a player from mid November through February.

13.02.5.3 Quiet Period. A quiet period is a period of time when it is permissible to make in-person recruiting contacts only on the institution’s campus. No in-person, off-campus recruiting contacts or evaluations may
be made during the quiet period.
13.02.5.4 Dead Period. [i] A dead period is a period of time when it is not permissible to make in-person recruiting contacts or evaluations on or off the institution’s campus ........

For baseball the Quiet Period is the Friday of the week of the fall signing of the National Letter of Intent through
the month of February. The Dead Periods are the near the early signing period in November, and the near the first week of the spring signing periood.



I appreciate you following up and the genuine concern if I had found the answer. Unfortunately, I dont have peoples ID's memorized and what they are famous for providing. I post on the average of 8x per month, you post an average of 164x per month.
ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
quote:
Originally posted by cb12:
ClevelandDad...did you read my original question (March 1st one you are referring to) I asked if they can come to a practice...I did not ask if they could "talk" to the player. I didn't think about it when I first asked. I also didn't think to ask that first time if the rules are different for my son, who is a junior, verses if he were a senior. I am SOOOOOO sorry for my ignorance. I can't believe how this whole thread is going. Wow...this is certainly not the way to welcome a newbie. Is this the way it is on here....ask a "stupid" question in the eyes of the long time users and you get harassed. Wow!

Read 3FG's answer in YOUR thread. It talks about visitation AND CONTACT. That is precisely why you remain "ignorant" and I am indeed sorry for that. I'll re-post for clarity. Maybe we should start a thread and ask what month we are in right now. Would that be ok for a topic?

quote:
Yes, basically a college coach cannot evaluate or make in-person, off-campus contact with a player from mid November through February.

13.02.5.3 Quiet Period. A quiet period is a period of time when it is permissible to make in-person recruiting contacts only on the institution’s campus. No in-person, off-campus recruiting contacts or evaluations may
be made during the quiet period.
13.02.5.4 Dead Period. [i] A dead period is a period of time when it is not permissible to make in-person recruiting contacts or evaluations on or off the institution’s campus ........

For baseball the Quiet Period is the Friday of the week of the fall signing of the National Letter of Intent through
the month of February. The Dead Periods are the near the early signing period in November, and the near the first week of the spring signing periood.
GS GA SC Diamond10+ posts
If someone brags and you don't like it don't give them the time of day and don't Bump the post by given a reply.
If someone ask somthing and you don't know, don't type anything.But look it up incase i ask it later :P
Problem solved .

-I found this site when my son was in 7th grade,now he's 10th grader and I can't belive we used up 3 pages over this .
btw My son plays baseball better then I do!
But I still know more
ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
YGD - you are dead wrong on this one. We got two knuckleheads here calling the rest of us out when they don't even read the answers in their own threads. Unbelievable.

TPM's response was absolutely right and it should have ended the thread right there. It is wonderful now that Eric G finally sees the light after all this. Amen and Hallelujah!
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
quote:
Originally posted by Eric G:
TPM,

I think I got it.

Yes, basically a college coach cannot evaluate or make in-person, off-campus contact with a player from mid November through February.

13.02.5.3 Quiet Period. A quiet period is a period of time when it is permissible to make in-person recruiting contacts only on the institution’s campus. No in-person, off-campus recruiting contacts or evaluations may
be made during the quiet period.
13.02.5.4 Dead Period. [i] A dead period is a period of time when it is not permissible to make in-person recruiting contacts or evaluations on or off the institution’s campus ........

For baseball the Quiet Period is the Friday of the week of the fall signing of the National Letter of Intent through
the month of February. The Dead Periods are the near the early signing period in November, and the near the first week of the spring signing periood.



I appreciate you following up and the genuine concern if I had found the answer. Unfortunately, I dont have peoples ID's memorized and what they are famous for providing. I post on the average of 8x per month, you post an average of 164x per month.


Did you get it or just copy it. What is the answer to your original question, cb12 needs an answer, thought that you would have found the answer by now. Can he talk to him?
You post more than 8x a month, and of what topic are your posts? Questions asked are sometimes posted in multiple places, for instance the once aobut Standford, in recruiting and ask about colleges. Where you afraid someone would miss the question or someone would miss seeing that your son got an invite?! I don't get that please explain.
C cb1210+ posts
Thank you Young Gun Dad. Finally, a voice of reason and one who makes me feel welcome. I was considering running....fast, but now I might stick around awhile.
BTW as a newbie, I have no idea who 3FG or OP is and would have no idea how to contact him/her. I am still trying to figure this site out, but now a little uneasy about putting myself out there with potential "stupid" questions.
YoungGunDadYoungGunDadHSBaseballWeb member since 2005
No. Sorry CD, I am NOT dead wrong on this one.

You are the worse offender in this thread of all.

As I stated in my other post, there is some cyber bullying going on here and if you don't believe me go back and read where you are calling people ignorant, knuckleheads, etc. What the **** is that for?

I don't know what you do for a living and quite frankly, I don't care. But there is NO need whatsoever for silly childish name calling. Do you handle your personal life in this same manner? People say the wrong thing and you resort to calling them names?

These "adults" who asked the questions are not "calling you or anyone else OUT". I think it's quite clear by the other majority of posters who have responded on here that if you or anyone else didn't like what the OP asked or said - zip your cotton picking lips and move on. How hard is that to understand?

NOW you can close this thread. If you want to keep posturing as to your status on here as a Moderator and you're never wrong, then keep replying and we can keep this thing alive.
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P proud-dadMember
This a great thread,because it is a perfect example of why most here are lurkers instead of participants.
As some of the posters have politely advised the OP to search out the answer and conduct some research. Can that not apply to every question that has ever been asked on any subject? The answer is out there,whether it is on the world wide web,in a book or still hidden in a tomb.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
quote:
Originally posted by cb12:
wow...my computer had not refreshed before I posted last. I didn't realize that I was called a knucklehead. never mind......
Oh, I have one more question...can someone tell me who is the overall manager of this site? I just have a question for him/her.
Thanks


Just to let you know that we DO answer questions, the owner of the site is Julie, aka MN Mom.
Now if you did a little poking around you may have found that answer! As a new poster will give you the benefit of doubt you didn't know where to look.
Just kidding, make sure that you hold your cursor to the left (top) where you will find lots of good information.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
quote:
Originally posted by proud-dad:
This a great thread,because it is a perfect example of why most here are lurkers instead of participants.
As some of the posters have politely advised the OP to search out the answer and conduct some research. Can that not apply to every question that has ever been asked on any subject? The answer is out there,whether it is on the world wide web,in a book or still hidden in a tomb.


Could you show me where someone asked a question (besides the OP here) and got chewed out for asking. I am talking a legit question asked legit as well. I am not talking aoubt the posters that come whining about something, but about asking genuine questions. Thanks in advance.
C cb1210+ posts
I wish I had time to sit and do a little poking around. Unfortunately, I work fulltime, manage a home with three children and a spouse, cook meals, do laundry, clean the house, also own another business in which I need to work after I work my fulltime job, volunteer in my community....yada yada yada...you get it. Since you obviously research my posts, you will notice that most (if not all) are at night, when I am home, have the dishes done and can finally sit down to catch up after putting in a long day. I thought this forum was a way to get some good, quick answers from people who obviously know much more about this process than me - including you and cleveland dad and other old timers. I didn't realize that I would be harassed and called names. I've never felt quite so unwelcome in anything I've ever been a part of. I'm not giving up hope though! I believe that there are many good people out there that won't yell at me for asking a question. I hope that someday I can help others.
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
quote:
Originally posted by cb12:
Thank you Young Gun Dad. Finally, a voice of reason and one who makes me feel welcome. I was considering running....fast, but now I might stick around awhile.
BTW as a newbie, I have no idea who 3FG or OP is and would have no idea how to contact him/her. I am still trying to figure this site out, but now a little uneasy about putting myself out there with potential "stupid" questions.


3FG is 3FingeredGlove, who was the one who answered your question, OP means original poster, in this case EricG.
I used to be someone else a long time ago, then TigerPawMom, now just TPM. I have been here since my son was a freshman in HS, now he is 25 years old, figure that out. I have seen and heard it all, I have all the posts that I do answering questions, and I am a mom.
YoungGunDadYoungGunDadHSBaseballWeb member since 2005
quote:
Originally posted by Danny Boydston:
I guess the powers to be could cut cost and get rid of all the poster who offer info. Just make it automated and have them click on the "search function" within the website. Cool


Ahhhhh.....yes....the personal touch! LOL.

No one to talk to. Just go about our business by clicking on the search functions and being robots.

Very good post Danny!
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
quote:
Originally posted by Danny Boydston:
I guess the powers to be could cut cost and get rid of all the poster who offer info. Just make it automated and have them click on the "search function" within the website. Cool


That's how I got a lot of the information I pass on to others, so what's wrong with using search?
BTW, redbird made that suggestion twice, thanks, not sure if anyone caught it the first time.
redbird5redbird510,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Danny Boydston:
I guess the powers to be could cut cost and get rid of all the poster who offer info. Just make it automated and have them click on the "search function" within the website. Cool


No but people can also take responsibility for finding their own answers. There was a similar topic started only 2 weeks ago. In this case, a seach would have taken only 45 seconds.
justbaseballjustbaseball10,000+ posts
Exhibit A: A battle between too "oldies." Happens all of the time on here.

quote:
Originally posted by YoungGunDad:
No. Sorry CD, I am NOT dead wrong on this one.

You are the worse offender in this thread of all.

As I stated in my other post, there is some cyber bullying going on here and if you don't believe me go back and read where you are calling people ignorant, knuckleheads, etc. What the **** is that for?

I don't know what you do for a living and quite frankly, I don't care. But there is NO need whatsoever for silly childish name calling. Do you handle your personal life in this same manner? People say the wrong thing and you resort to calling them names?

These "adults" who asked the questions are not "calling you or anyone else OUT". I think it's quite clear by the other majority of posters who have responded on here that if you or anyone else didn't like what the OP asked or said - zip your cotton picking lips and move on. How hard is that to understand?

NOW you can close this thread. If you want to keep posturing as to your status on here as a Moderator and you're never wrong, then keep replying and we can keep this thing alive.


So to the "newbies," don't use your status as a "newbie" (which Eric G is certainly NOT!) as a victim-plea/whoa-is-me/wah-wah-wah. Thats called an "excuse." And don't go cryin' to mamma either. I don't allow my kids to make "excuses" and they're still kids. You come on here with the "newbie" excuse...don't expect sympathy. Stand your ground if its solid, learn something if its not.

Nearly every "oldie" has gone to battle on here with earlier oldies, current oldies, newbies and middle-dies alike. They're still here for good reason! If you're hoping your boy is gonna play college or pro baseball, they're gonna have to be a lot tougher than much of the behavior exhibited on this thread!
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Pretty simple.
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Coach_MayCoach_May10,000+ posts
"Has anyone heard of the kid from Danville that throws 95 and hits bombs 500' on a routine basis? I heard about the kid but I just wanted to know if anyone else had?" Signed "DvilleSlugger"

I guess people could play along with this stuff. Or they can choose to call it out. In this case TPM called it out. Six years on the site and your asking a question like the one the op did?
TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
CM, thanks for that post, very self explanatory.
If people don't get it (comments), than stay out of it and don't get yourself involved in something you don't understand.

JBB also thanks, I too am tired of the newbie versus oldtimer cr ap, we've all been new here for a first time, we've all been faced with things that are said we don't agree with, no one has had more garbage thrown in their face than me, and guess what, I a still here!

If you don't like it, then adios.

Stop making excuses, especially ridiculous ones, like being too busy at work to look up answers, heck if you are busy at work what the heck are ya doing on the internet?

Let me make something clear, all I did was make a suggestion to Eric, regarding doing his own work to find answers. I asked him if he did this to gain attention, I did not call anyone names (until I was called out for being a female), I don't see where (anywhere here) new posters have not been welcomed and their questions not answered.

The OP is not a new poster and this is not someone who can't use the internet or not familiar with our site. Boo hoo with the 8 times average a month you've posted since you came here, you've been involved in enough topics to "get it".

Recruiting is one of those things that 50% of it is composed of rules and the other 50% is common sense. It's not that your questions are not welcomed, if you are too embarrassed to ask, most likely you will find the answer in a search here. Amd for heaven's sake download the NCAA guide to recruiting, it's very simple, if you had known when the contact period was and what it contains, you could figure out the answer. And FWIW, if the coach talks to your son (perhaps even when he shouldn't), don't worry about it.

Yes, most likely I could have ignored the question asked, but I called him out, I said to myself enough is enough already.

I hope that this can bring this to a close.
EG Eric G100+ posts
I will make this my last comment as well TPM. It appears to me that there was some overwhelming comments that sided with me in that it was a question, nothing more, nothing less and yet you raked me over the coals (admittingly as well) for not clicking the daggone "search" button. I have searched many other times, just not this point in time, deal with it and just do not open the thread next time therefore your time wont ever be wasted in responding let alone lingering on in a thread like this. It does stink that after 5 yrs on the site I ask 2 questions in the span of a few weeks and not only do people get far bent out of shape but then they ALL have the audacity to purport that I have an agenda or want to spout about my son. Looking back to when they were 9 and 12yo or so on this site I did talk up their accomplishments under the apporpriate threads.
I have always enjoyd this site, have bragged about the site to MANY friends and will likely continue to do so despite this particular topic.
As I have stated, I apologize for not "searching" before I asked this one, but am TRULY offended anyone read in to it that I am wanting "everyone" to know what is happening in my sons recruiting life.
Lessons learned = 1) It helps to "search"
2) Dont respond to a thread
unless you want to answer
justbaseballjustbaseball10,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Eric G:
...but then they ALL have the audacity to purport that I have an agenda or...but am TRULY offended anyone read in to it that I...


The only audacious post on this thread is your demeaning one about women and connecting it to your wife. I hope she doesn't read this site.

As the husband of a wonderful woman that I am lucky will have me and as a father of two beautiful daughters that I hope will someday have loving husbands, wonderful children and careers (if they want them) with an equal chance of success as their male counterparts...and as a person who TRULY respects how TPM has helped her own son tremendously in his baseball career along with hundreds of posters (including me) on here...I was "TRULY" offended by your demeaning comment about women.
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SultanofSwatSultanofSwat10,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Leftysidearmom:
Regardless of the OP's intentions, calling him out this way may have done more harm than good. Perceptions matter. I'm concerned with how the website is perceived by newcomers. We've benefitted greatly from some of the information on this site and I would hate to see it implode.


I second this.
DB Danny Boydston1,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by justbaseball:
Tired of the 'everyone is picking on me' mentality. If your kid is going to play high level baseball, he will need to have a stronger mental side than a number of the victimized posters on here.

I guess the same could be said for those who always feel it necessary to call someone out when they disagree with them or don't like what was said or asked. The ridiculing and name calling here gets just as tiresome.

We all have the ability to ignore and move on. Maybe that would be a better option then the mentioned above.

I think I will practice what I preach! Cool
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justbaseballjustbaseball10,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by AntzDad:
This thread reminds me of those trick birthday candles.


Now thats pretty funny!

Danny - Your point is certainly reasonable. The activity on this thread comes up from time to time on this site and on virtually every message board I have followed. Some of the biggest battles I've seen (or experienced firsthand on here) are oldie-vs-oldie...but the good ones still come back. The attitude of 'be nice to me, don't question me no matter what or I'm taking my marbles and going home' is weak and from my point of view, those who can't handle the challenges and sparring that occasionally comes with posting on message boards can go ahead and take their marbles and go home.
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