Any chance anybody has an updated excel sheet for the transfer portal? Not looking to leech, probably going to bite the bullet and subscribe to D1 Baseball. Just want to see how accurate it is before I turn over any of my bank info.
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Very accurate
Does the transfer portal also show d2 etc?
No just D1
@Fmr coach now Dad posted:No just D1
But is there any good online source for D2 Transfer Portal info?
And does the D1Baseball portal section have historical information about where kids wind up after they enter the portal, or does it just list the names?
Someone uploaded an excel spreadsheet of the Transfer Portal a couple of weeks ago as it was at that time. Looked for it again but can not find it. Might be found via advanced search, it's just beyond my capabilities.
@baseballhs posted:Here.
What type of file is this? I can't open it on my PC.
Try this.
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@baseballhs posted:Try this.
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
Yes - Thank you. Any ideas on where to find D2 info?
Thanks for converting it. Seems like a ton of grad transfers. When would most of them normally be committed for the fall?
There are a lot of grad transfers in there, the question is how many will either be given the opportunity to play somewhere else, and then what portion are willing to take on more school and often the associated debt. If you're a kid that attends a school that either doesn't allow graduate play (Ivy) or doesn't have graduate level classes, there's no harm in going in the portal. If someone shows interest, you can then gauge if it makes sense or not.
@9and7dad posted:There are a lot of grad transfers in there, the question is how many will either be given the opportunity to play somewhere else, and then what portion are willing to take on more school and often the associated debt. If you're a kid that attends a school that either doesn't allow graduate play (Ivy) or doesn't have graduate level classes, there's no harm in going in the portal. If someone shows interest, you can then gauge if it makes sense or not.
The grad transfers have no question about their status. I wouldn’t expect that many more of them to enter the portal. I would expect a big increase in undergrads entering however. Seems like a lot of names already and it’s still very early in the game. Many undergrads aren’t going to have a handle on their situation until they get back to campus. They can talk to their coaches on the phone all they want to in the interim but many aren’t gonna know where they stand until they can size it up for themselves. I think it will end up being a lot of names.
@baseballhs posted:Try this.
Thanks much @baseballhs! I am sad for some who are listed + happy for those with options.
@adbono posted:The grad transfers have no question about their status. I wouldn’t expect that many more of them to enter the portal. I would expect a big increase in undergrads entering however. Seems like a lot of names already and it’s still very early in the game. Many undergrads aren’t going to have a handle on their situation until they get back to campus. They can talk to their coaches on the phone all they want to in the interim but many aren’t gonna know where they stand until they can size it up for themselves. I think it will end up being a lot of names.
It seems like Freshmen are getting hit the hardest. I have heard of quite a few who have been dropped in the last week. 2020's are getting dropped as well and I know of a 2021 who was dropped yesterday. I wonder how many schools will just let everyone fight it out in the Fall and make the majority of their cuts afterwards? Hopefully there will be some additional roster relief.
@d-mac posted:It seems like Freshmen are getting hit the hardest. I have heard of quite a few who have been dropped in the last week. 2020's are getting dropped as well and I know of a 2021 who was dropped yesterday. I wonder how many schools will just let everyone fight it out in the Fall and make the majority of their cuts afterwards? Hopefully there will be some additional roster relief.
Only problem with that is the scholarship money. Still have to be under 11.7 for the non corona seniors. Freshmen move a lot to begin with, a lot of high schoolers reach when they're being recruited and take the biggest name over the best fit. Mix that in with a shaky fall, slow start in the spring. Next thing you know it's been 9 months and you've shown the staff nothing that helps your cause in a numbers game. Unfortunately the only roster relief would be the NCAA allowing the penalty free transfer rule to pass and that doesn't look too promising as of now.
Any chance of a updated list?
Updates since the previous version.
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@MidAtlanticDad posted:Updates since the previous version.
Appreciate the effort but file won’t open
Here is current excel version
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@FriarFred posted:Here is current excel version
Any program with a lot of kids trying to transfer out that aren’t graduates should raise a red flag - and there are a lot of them!
I feel like almost all schools have a roster crunch and I respect the coaches that are telling the kids that they know probably won't make the cut. At least it gives them options and lets them make an educated decision. I think it's scarier that coaches are bringing everyone to campus when they know they are sending a bunch to the slaughterhouse in December.
847 total with 97 who have transferred and over half of them are graduates.
It will be interesting who picks up Furman kids. They have a couple of very good pitchers and three fielders/hitters who should go quickly.
The players on this list from me sons team are players that were cut from the team a month ago. With on extra money in college baseball you can't keep extra bodies on the team. So NCAA allowing the rosters to go over the 35 was no help. If football doesn't go in the fall... alot more schools will be dropping baseball and other sports.
@baseballhs posted:I feel like almost all schools have a roster crunch and I respect the coaches that are telling the kids that they know probably won't make the cut. At least it gives them options and lets them make an educated decision. I think it's scarier that coaches are bringing everyone to campus when they know they are sending a bunch to the slaughterhouse in December.
I don’t see it that way. Many of the schools I see with 5 or more undergrads looking to leave have been notorious for over recruiting for many years. The number of names in the transfer portal just serves as proof.
Rookie question: Does a player have to put their name in the portal in order to transfer? It’s not working out prior to Corona, kid and coach talk, kid calls old TB coach and asks him to help find him a new hopefully better fit, which coach does. Does that name appear on this list? Just trying to get a handle on how many kids really are out there looking for a new home.
If a player has not signed a NLI he is free to transfer on his own terms and doesn’t need to enter the portal.
Very interesting to browse through that list. Thanks for posting. I am particularly surprised at the large number of Ivy and other HA grads (and I am aware Ivy doesn't allow grads a fifth year of play)... apparently that group is more willing to tack on another year of schooling in order to play again than has been previously discussed on this site.
Also interesting is that practically the whole rosters of BG and Furman are on the list. Hopefully, this is another data point that administrations will take note of when considering cutting baseball... that's a lot of potentially lost tuition revenue.
Adbono, I get your point about over-recruiting, largely from some of the P5's, but what do we make of schools like Maine who have a much harder time even recruiting good talent from their own back yard, let alone out of the region and have 11 players on the list with only two or three being grads? Chicago St. and Gardner-Webb also have high numbers. I'm guessing Chicago St. was possibly due to the earlier rumors.
@adbono posted:If a player has not signed a NLI he is free to transfer on his own terms and doesn’t need to enter the portal.
And i believe if they want to enter the portal they need an “ok” from the compliance dept of the original school to do so. So it’s not like you just “sign up”
@cabbagedad posted:Very interesting to browse through that list. Thanks for posting. I am particularly surprised at the large number of Ivy and other HA grads (and I am aware Ivy doesn't allow grads a fifth year of play)... apparently that group is more willing to tack on another year of schooling in order to play again than has been previously discussed on this site.
Also interesting is that practically the whole rosters of BG and Furman are on the list. Hopefully, this is another data point that administrations will take note of when considering cutting baseball... that's a lot of potentially lost tuition revenue.
Adbono, I get your point about over-recruiting, largely from some of the P5's, but what do we make of schools like Maine who have a much harder time even recruiting good talent from their own back yard, let alone out of the region and have 11 players on the list with only two or three being grads? Chicago St. and Gardner-Webb also have high numbers. I'm guessing Chicago St. was possibly due to the earlier rumors.
Hard to know what to make of it but you can add Louisiana, UNC Wilmington & St Louis to the list of mid-majors where lots of kids want out. The 3 programs I just mentioned have all been consistently good so to me it says they are bringing in too many kids each year. Maybe they are using sports to boost tuition revenue and will take as many as they can get. The surprising thing to me is the number of kids in the portal wanting to leave mid-majors. There are fewer P5 schools where kids want to leave than I expected and more mid-majors.
UNCW - Over-recruiting combined with favor recruiting from favored academies. And a coaching change for 2020 season. Not a good look for this program in regards to recruiting.
Gardner Webb - Massive massive huge overrecruiting and a coaching change for the 2020 season. Plus multiple JUCO commits coming in. And 6 seniors returning.
G-Webb even had been advertising some program called a D1 Development Team which appeared to be some offshoot club team that would provide training and intersquad play amongst those in the 'program'. Very weird.
@Showball$ posted:UNCW - Over-recruiting combined with favor recruiting from favored academies. And a coaching change for 2020 season. Not a good look for this program in regards to recruiting.
Gardner Webb - Massive massive huge overrecruiting and a coaching change for the 2020 season. Plus multiple JUCO commits coming in. And 6 seniors returning.
G-Webb even had been advertising some program called a D1 Development Team which appeared to be some offshoot club team that would provide training and intersquad play amongst those in the 'program'. Very weird.
Good insight... anything on Maine?
FriarFred's excel spreadsheet made it real for me. Incredible. I've been watching and listening (from an outsiders perspective) and I knew it was bad. I didn't know it was this bad.
Good luck to these young men...all 846 of them (as of May 20). I wish them well.
Over-recruiting is rampant and is one of the biggest problems in college baseball. I have been harping on it ever since I joined this board. The ability to view the transfer portal sure shines a light on it.
Maine? No, nothing beyond its cold there I hear.
This is going to turn into a huge mess. Between many programs overrecruited, seniors not leaving, and others shutting down. Its not going to help the quality of competition as some think. Its going to set up a free for all overcrowded clown show with little continuity and even more player discontent.
If the colleges don't open back up for on campus classes this Fall, their entire business model is shot for the foreseeable future. Nobody in their right mind is going to pay high tuition for online learning, or plan to attend until this mess is all sorted out. (Furman for example I heard is down 15% in enrollment. I'm sure others are similar)
Forget baseball changing, the entire landscape of college as we know it may be altered. Better get this all figured out and get back to living life again.
Here is an example of where headed to:
South Carolina (USC) delay campus opening til Aug 30, Eliminate Fall break, No return to Campus after Thanksgiving, Online classes and final exams thru Dec 15 semester end. Evaluate return in January as needed.
Based on the spreadsheet, looks like Chicago State players are jumping ship before June 22.
There is always player turnover when a new coach gets brought in - especially when the program has a losing culture. The problem is often the recruiting and it makes sense that the players contributing to the culture are asked to move on. Not the fault of anybody, just the circumstances.
@Showball$ posted:UNCW - Over-recruiting combined with favor recruiting from favored academies. And a coaching change for 2020 season. Not a good look for this program in regards to recruiting.
Gardner Webb - Massive massive huge overrecruiting and a coaching change for the 2020 season. Plus multiple JUCO commits coming in. And 6 seniors returning.
G-Webb even had been advertising some program called a D1 Development Team which appeared to be some offshoot club team that would provide training and intersquad play amongst those in the 'program'. Very weird.
The bolded is a problem that nobody really talks about too much. I see kid after kid pushed higher and higher up the rankings because of the program he plays for or because of how many showcase events he does. Then he gets to his school and transfers after a year or two and there's always an excuse attached.
Interesting. Any insight on Richmond?