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I know D3's don't go thru the portal but wanted to give a shout out to Duke for picking up Rich Brereton (graduate) out of Emory.  Kid was a stud 2 way player for Emory and helped his summer team win the cape league championships last year with a gutsy extra-inning performance on the mound.  Not sure how much time he will get next spring but he's the second RHP from our HS on Duke.  Not bad for a school in CT.  Our HS ace last year, Henry Williams, was to be a part of the starting rotation as a freshman but got hurt in his first outing.  I am a Duke hater in everything but baseball.   I am pretty sure its jealousy.

I know D3's don't go thru the portal but wanted to give a shout out to Duke for picking up Rich Brereton (graduate) out of Emory.  Kid was a stud 2 way player for Emory and helped his summer team win the cape league championships last year with a gutsy extra-inning performance on the mound.  Not sure how much time he will get next spring but he's the second RHP from our HS on Duke.  Not bad for a school in CT.  Our HS ace last year, Henry Williams, was to be a part of the starting rotation as a freshman but got hurt in his first outing.  I am a Duke hater in everything but baseball.   I am pretty sure its jealousy.

D3 certainly does go through the portal. I’m assuming the list non-coaches are subscribing to through D1baseball is different than the actual portal. 

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@LousyLefty posted:

Rookie question: Does a player have to put their name in the portal in order to transfer?  It’s not working out prior to Corona, kid and coach talk, kid calls old TB coach and asks him to help find him a new hopefully better fit, which coach does. Does that name appear on this list? Just trying to get a handle on how many kids really are out there looking for a new home. 

The school puts the kid on the portal after kid submits the proper paperwork requesting to enter the portal. 

@DesertDuck posted:

Sure seems to be a whole lot of doom and gloom happening now.....Did anyone predict this carnage?

@adbono posted:

I remember a bunch of “why so much negativity?!? I view the world as glass half full. My kid will just outwork everybody “

Sometimes the numbers preclude all of that, which is what is evolving just as many predicted it would. 

Adbono you were on it from the beginning. 

All those that thought this was just usual roster management:  Hold on because the next shoe hasn't dropped yet.  After the draft on  June 8 and undrafted signings before July1 (deadline for letting players know in writing that their scholy wont be renewed) it likely gets a lot uglier than it already is.    If the NCAA doesn't make changes in baseball ASAP, and there has been no indication that they will, P5 schools are going to be forced to break their own rules.  Too many scholarships promised, too many returning players, too many incoming freshman with signed NLIs, it will get worse.

@GloFisher posted:

echoing wildcats post, any insight on Richmond?  big numbers in portal.  

Bump for wildcats and glofisher.  One transfer is going JUCO, and another to a strong D3 program (Trinity).  Two are graduate transfers.   That leaves 3 others that entered the portal for their own reasons.  In looking at this, I don't think the sky is falling with 3 transfers for a very expensive private D1 school.   With the current scholarship situation being pretty squirrely with Covid-19, there may have been some challenges making everybody happy.   

I live in Richmond (they recruited son 10 years ago) and I've not heard anything which is why I'm curious.  The 2020 team did not start off strong, but 2019 team had a 13-8 conference record and 2018 had a 15-9 conference record.  Certainly not terrible.

@fenwaysouth posted:

Bump for wildcats and glofisher.  One transfer is going JUCO, and another to a strong D3 program (Trinity).  Two are graduate transfers.   That leaves 3 others that entered the portal for their own reasons.  In looking at this, I don't think the sky is falling with 3 transfers for a very expensive private D1 school.   With the current scholarship situation being pretty squirrely with Covid-19, there may have been some challenges making everybody happy.   

I live in Richmond (they recruited son 10 years ago) and I've not heard anything which is why I'm curious.  The 2020 team did not start off strong, but 2019 team had a 13-8 conference record and 2018 had a 15-9 conference record.  Certainly not terrible.

@fenwaysouth

Here are some insights for Richmond:

 

2020 Player Distribution by State

01-Richmond 2020 Distribution by State

 

2020 Player Distribution by Position

 

02-Richmond 2020 Distribution by Position

 

2020 Team Roster Insights

03-Richmond 2020 Team Roster Insights

 

2019 MLB Draft

 

04-Richmond 2019 MLB Draft

 

Team Performance 2016 - 2020

05-Richmond Team Performance 2016 - 2020

 

2019 EADA Report

 

06-Richmond 2019 EADA Report

 

2019 -EADA - Expense by Sport

07-Richmond 2019 EADA Expense by Sport

 

Richmond 10 yr Baseball Budget

08-Richmond 2019 EADA Baseball Budget

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@fenwaysouth posted:

Bump for wildcats and glofisher.  One transfer is going JUCO, and another to a strong D3 program (Trinity).  Two are graduate transfers.   That leaves 3 others that entered the portal for their own reasons.  In looking at this, I don't think the sky is falling with 3 transfers for a very expensive private D1 school.   With the current scholarship situation being pretty squirrely with Covid-19, there may have been some challenges making everybody happy.   

I live in Richmond (they recruited son 10 years ago) and I've not heard anything which is why I'm curious.  The 2020 team did not start off strong, but 2019 team had a 13-8 conference record and 2018 had a 15-9 conference record.  Certainly not terrible.

They have their own field and don't play on the Flying Squirrels field, correct?

I can't remember if Cabbage is a Giants fan or not.  If he is, I would think that Richmond might be an attractive place to retire.  

(sorry for the thread drift)

@JCG posted:

They have their own field and don't play on the Flying Squirrels field, correct?

I can't remember if Cabbage is a Giants fan or not.  If he is, I would think that Richmond might be an attractive place to retire.  

(sorry for the thread drift)

JCG - Correct.  Univ of Richmond just got a brand new artificial all-weather baseball field a couple years ago.  They were including that and many facility and stadium upgrades in their recruiting pitch 10 years ago.   They finally got around to ONE of those recruiting pitch items.  

Flying Squirrels share the Diamond with Virginia Commonwealth Univ (A-10 conference).    I'm a former New Englander and I've lived in Richmond for 30+ years and it is a great place to live, raise a family and retire.  I believe keewart and FoxDad outlined many reasons to live in Richmond in the previous "Living in NC, SC, and GA" thread.   BTW...I'm hoping to see Ripken Fan's son makes a quick stop in AA Richmond before getting "the big call up".

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I believe this is only the second year (and the first year may have started late) of the transfer portal. What would be really telling is what were the numbers in the prior year? Are this year's numbers much different? I'm guessing the portal now sheds light on something that occurs EVERY years regardless of a pandemic. Very similar phenomenon to flu death counts.

Of course the GRADUATE transfer requests will be many, many more due to the extra year. Most of these guys are just "fishing".

@c2019 posted:

Can yesterdays update be posted ??  I heard the numbers went even higher .

The big numbers were anticipated once the D1 council granted an extra year of eligibility to all spring sports athletes. That’s why the one time transfer rule hasn’t been approved. Can you imagine what the portal would look like if one time transfers were in there too?!?!? 

Wow! Quite an eye opener. A bit surprised at Washington, and, to a lesser extent Purdue, having the transfers they do. Not surprised at programs like Omaha, KY, and Miss. State. Notre Dame has more movement than I expected. know a kid who is transferring there.

 

Just reinforces to me that if you go to a school, make sure you love the school, not just the baseball program. The amount of movement I have seen from my son's baseball buddies in the first two years is crazy...and IMO, not right. 

@57special posted:

Wow! Quite an eye opener. A bit surprised at Washington, and, to a lesser extent Purdue, having the transfers they do. Not surprised at programs like Omaha, KY, and Miss. State. Notre Dame has more movement than I expected. know a kid who is transferring there.

 

Just reinforces to me that if you go to a school, make sure you love the school, not just the baseball program. The amount of movement I have seen from my son's baseball buddies in the first two years is crazy...and IMO, not right. 

IMO all the movement is due to a combination of things: 1) many kids (and parents) don’t get a good read on the situation before they commit; 2) blatant over-recruiting by some programs; 3) kids over-reaching for big name programs when they aren’t really good enough to play there; 4) the big ego infatuation with playing D1 baseball; 5) kids & parents being misled about the appropriate level of play for their abilities; 6) kids & parents not doing their homework to find info that’s out there; 7) the influence of social media in the decision making process.         All these factors (and others) result in bad decisions on the first go around requiring a corrective move within a year of the first one. 

How much do you think Corona/additional eligibility is impacting these numbers?  Since my player is a 2022 this is just now something we are looking at and don't really have a historical reference.  Normally I would track how many transfers are entering the portal from any school on our interest list, but not sure this year shouldn't be counted as an anomaly.   

@19coach posted:

D3 certainly does go through the portal. I’m assuming the list non-coaches are subscribing to through D1baseball is different than the actual portal. 

I'm pretty sure that D2 and D3 schools have the choice of using the transfer portal or staying with the older permission to contact process. D2 uses it heavily, but I'm not sure about D3. The Eligibility Center instructs student athletes to contact their current school's compliance office to find out which one they use. Also, D3 student athletes can transfer to another D3 school using the self-release form, so the kids using that process would never be on the portal.

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I have also seen some movement in son's friends because when they committed the teams were not as good as they are now.  New coaches come in and up the level of recruiting and playing to the point that the kids that were coming are no longer suited for those teams.  I also know kids that are planning on leaving schools that are waiting to see what happens in summer ball.  They don't want to give up their summer slots and many summer leagues only bring in kids from certain levels of ball or schools so kids are waiting until after summer to officially make their statements on transfers, D1 to juco. 

I'm assuming that 900 number will go up drastically after the draft. One guy not getting drafted may not seem like a big deal but the potential draft guys are the better players getting more money. If a 50% guy comes back to school, two 25 guys have to go. 

Freshmen may be the future of the program, but you don't get rid of studs to make room for projects. 

@FriarFred posted:

Here is a local story about a couple kids that have been impacted by the cancellation of the season, reduced MLB draft and another year of eligibility.  Real world example of what has been discussed here.  https://www.dallasnews.com/hig...g-extra-eligibility/

 

Typical media: "Division I signees in baseball and other spring sports are being told their scholarship can’t be honored."

I don't think this is possible. Sure, they told players there would be no playing time and that will cause them to find a new home but they can't pull money after a NLI's been signed.

Hogeboom left due to being told no playing time. And he gave up 50%? The article says New Mexico took Hill's scholarship away; there HAS to be more to the story as I don't think this is possible. Either he had no scholarship (as in the case of the softball player mentioned in the article) or he left due to the college suggesting he leave as in Hogeboom's case.

Make me wonder if the players should have just showed up on campus and called the coach's bluff. Eat that money. Perhaps the coach would be pissed and never give you an opportunity but at least you ate up 1/2 of a scholarship he wanted to use elsewhere. You can always leave after the fall and head to JUCO if calling his bluff didn't work. It really depends on how confident you are in your own ability.

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