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Originally posted by voodoochile:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Your "neighbors, friends family and most of all christians" in 11 states made second class citizens out of approximately 10% of their residents on Tuesday.
How far out of the mainstream are you? *** Mariage?
BOTH Presidential Canidates were against it. BOTH.And yes, 11 states passed constitutional amendments banning it in their states.
You know what? They weren't just southern states either. The liberal bastion of Oregon defeated their ballot initiative.
Michigan, another Blue state defeated theirs.
Yes, I am against it. Does that make me an extremist?
I think it makes you an extremist because you feel you should push your out of the mainstream values on the rest of us. And today, I read three or four articles about Democrats blaming this very issue for their defeat in this election.
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Furthermore your "neighbors, friends family and most of all christians" elected Senators in Oklahoma & S.Carolina whose campaigns included positions against terminating a pregnancy for ANY reason including the life of the Mother.
And they were elected. Do you think their election should be thrown out because you don't agree with their principals? This isn't a dictatorship, it's a republic.
I don't agree with Senator Patty Murray of Washington, who I think is a wingnut. But, I don't think she should be removed from office because she's a nut. That is up to the citizens of the state of Washington.
The great thing about this country, is we can have people like Cynthia McKinney elected to Congress from a red state like Georgia, and also have Rick Santorum from a Blue state like Pennsylvania.
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These benevolent Senators elected by your "neighbors, friends, family and most of all christians" also believe that a woman who has a child out of wedlock should not be permitted to teach in a public school. How is that the State's business? What about a man who Fathers a child out of wedlock?
What do you mean "Hows is that the State's business?"
They are State Employees. The State can determine their qualifications and expectations of their employees.
And believe it or not, most every school system has a morals clause in the teachers contract. Not just here in the deep south.
In fact, my mother who was a teacher in Illinois had a morals clause in her contract that didn't allow her to be seen in a local bar. Local teachers here in "Extremist Texas" don't have such a clause.
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KDad there's a document you need to read. It states "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL men are created equal."
It doesn't say people who look like us, or people who think like us, people we like, people who worship the same way we do, who have the same morals as we do, who have the same sexual preferences etc. etc. It says ALL men are created equal.
Don't lecture me on the Declaration of Independence (or for that matter the Constitution), however I should remind you that the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document in the United States. While it is a great document, our system of laws is not based upon that document, it is based upon another document....The Constitution.
Remember, the people that wrote the Declaration of Independence were slave holders, but yet they were declaring all men were created equal. They also did not allow women to vote, hold positions of power nor did they allow them to work outside of being a nurse or a teacher.
They also required you to be a land owner to vote.
They also persecuted other non Europeans, such as Orientals.
They also murdered millions of Native Americans, for no other purpose than to move them off thier property.
Look thru history, there have been extremist in our nations past.
George W. Bush is not one of them.