Twas the nite before the election

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Originally posted by voodoochile:
Bush's victory was the _NARROWEST_ win for a sitting president since
Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the
country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don't approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%).

The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues.

At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3 chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the 2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53
chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47
chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber
(Montana House) is still undecided.

Over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. _Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan._ If the media are looking for a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news is that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact,that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November
2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of surprise in 2008.

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Care to source your plagiarism?

I can. You shouldn't be copying and pasting from all the ultra left blog sites there Voodoo.

And if you do, you should at least source it. Leave it up to the ultra left to have to cut and paste somebody else's work because they don't have an original thought in thier head.

By the way,

for all of those that don't recognize what Voodoo posted as his own words.

They come from Michael Moore.

They are two of his 17 reasons not to slit your wrists.

That alone should make you want to ignore everything Voodoo has to say.

Well, actually two reasons. One, that he copy's and pastes Michael Moore, the lefts most favorite blovinator, thinking nobody would recognize it, and two, because he actually reads Michael Moore.

Voodo, why don't you spout some orignal garbage, instead of recycling Michael Moore's propoganda?

Voodoo, you are losing credibility out here!!!
Stop while you have some left!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE!!!

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Originally posted by KellerDad:
By the way,

for all of those that don't recognize what Voodoo posted as his own words.

They come from Michael Moore.

They are two of his 17 reasons not to slit your wrists.

That alone should make you want to ignore everything Voodoo has to say.

Well, actually two reasons. One, that he copy's and pastes Michael Moore, the lefts most favorite blovinator, thinking nobody would recognize it, and two, because he actually reads Michael Moore.

Voodo, why don't you spout some orignal garbage, instead of recycling Michael Moore's propoganda?

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Pardon my mistake. I'm sure you never make any. I was in a hurry & I mistakenly attempted to cut & paste the picture from the site rather than post it using the URL & I didn't check it before leaving the site. Mea culpa.

Doesn't change the truth of what he said.

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Originally posted by voodoochile:

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Originally posted by KellerDad:
By the way,

for all of those that don't recognize what Voodoo posted as his own words.

They come from Michael Moore.

They are two of his 17 reasons not to slit your wrists.

That alone should make you want to ignore everything Voodoo has to say.

Well, actually two reasons. One, that he copy's and pastes Michael Moore, the lefts most favorite blovinator, thinking nobody would recognize it, and two, because he actually reads Michael Moore.

Voodo, why don't you spout some orignal garbage, instead of recycling Michael Moore's propoganda?

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Pardon my mistake. I'm sure you never make any. I was in a hurry & I mistakenly attempted to cut & paste the picture from the site rather than post it using the URL & I didn't check it before leaving the site. Mea culpa.

Doesn't change the truth of what he said.

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You are digging yourself deeper. In order for you to cut and paste that, you had to do it twice, as they are two different "reasons". It would be impossible for you to accidently have posted what you did.

And as far as putting "Truth" and "Michael Moore" in the same sentence.....puuuullllleeeeezeee.

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Originally posted by KellerDad:

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Originally posted by voodoochile:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KellerDad:
By the way,

for all of those that don't recognize what Voodoo posted as his own words.

They come from Michael Moore.

They are two of his 17 reasons not to slit your wrists.

That alone should make you want to ignore everything Voodoo has to say.

Well, actually two reasons. One, that he copy's and pastes Michael Moore, the lefts most favorite blovinator, thinking nobody would recognize it, and two, because he actually reads Michael Moore.

Voodo, why don't you spout some orignal garbage, instead of recycling Michael Moore's propoganda?

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Pardon my mistake. I'm sure you never make any. I was in a hurry & I mistakenly attempted to cut & paste the picture from the site rather than post it using the URL & I didn't check it before leaving the site. Mea culpa.

Doesn't change the truth of what he said.

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You are digging yourself deeper. In order for you to cut and paste that, you had to do it twice, as they are two different "reasons". It would be impossible for you to accidently have posted what you did.

You really have a problem with your reading comprehension. This is at least the 2nd time you have mischaracterized something I've said.

Where did I say I accidentally posted anything? What I said was that I attempted to post a picture from the site & failed. How is that accidentally posting the comments?

"And as far as putting "Truth" and "Michael Moore" in the same sentence.....puuuullllleeeeezeee."

Your opinion which you are still entitled to voice...until Bush attempts to put the Constitution through the shredder. Should take him about 6 months.

Since certain people are so unhappy with the results of the election and are hallucinating about imagined constitutional horrors that will
NEVER happen,they should do something to relieve
their stress.May I recommend a trip to France,along with Mike Moore and his ilk to visit Arafat,and then accompany him on his journey to that great warm place.

Enough already!

The election is over and George Bush is the president. Its time to move forward as a nation and quit bickering party lines like our senators and congressman do!

Everybody has their own views and I am glad we live in a nation where everyone can voice theirs but again the election is over. Maybe if Republicans and Democrats worked together as hard as they fight each other we could actually make some good progress on behalf of our nation.

This thread is getting very old and its time to let it go its way!

TennDad ...

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Everybody has their own views and I am glad we live in a nation where everyone can voice theirs ...

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Amen to that !!!

I know that some may not believe this, but many of us Republicans ... who did vote to re-elect President Bush ... have actually listened to many of the arguments fostered by well spoken Democrats ... especially those who do not automatically presume that we Republicans are all out to be evil people who want to take away the rights of anybody and everybody who disagrees with our views. We have considered carefully what has been said and written, and perhaps some of us have even changed an opinion or two as a result of listening and learning. We have chosen to vote the way we did for personal reasons, some of which will never be understood by the voters who chose to vote for John Kerry.

It doesn't make us evil. It doesn't mean we want to live in a theocracy. And it certainly doesn't mean that we have turned our brains and intellect in at the "party door". (Actually, some of us are pretty darn intelligent.) It just means that we voted for the candidate we wanted to see in the White House. And personally, had a more moderate candidate (such as Joe Lieberman) been nominated by the Democratic party, some of us Republicans might have even voted for him.

The election is over and in the next 4 years we hope and pray that the country improves and continues to be the country that so many people from around the world want to come to and make their homes in. And then, in 4 years, we can have more candidates ... who desire to make the country even greater ... try to win the presidency and do what they can to improve our lives.

And now, to borrow a phrase from a former Los Angeles area "celebrity" ... can't we all just get along?

It's time to outlaw the A.C.L.U..........Close them down......

Bluedog:

As a fellow Republican all i can say is:

Your not helping things!

Why do you want to shut poor Blue Dog down now. The views he has posted are, IMO, truly representative of the portion of this nation that reelected W.

It is the religious right, spurred on by Carl Rove that put W over the top this time.

Rove is a genious (evil genious perhaps) and he orchestrated putting same *** marriage issues on the ballots in 11 states. That caused the religious right to get into the voter booths, which they might not have done. They didn't get out in 2000, so Rove figured this way to get 'em out there. Once in the voting booth to stop same *** marriage measures, they voted for W also.

this election became all of what Blue Dog refers to such as putting the 10 commandments in the courthouses.

the bush administration, through Rove, has fostered this religious component as critical to the election and we now have the 21st century of the crusades, Christians vs. Muslims, with oil, rather than spices at stake.

If you don't think this is serious and don't think it is already present, just by way of example, when W was governor of Texas he attempted to establish a state holiday known as Jesus Day in July. I guess he forgot we already had Christmas.

The Patriot act is another step to strip our freedoms. How did Nixon not think of that one? Read it, it is truly frightening. So if, as Blue Dog suggests, you get rid of groups such as the ACLU, make a few good judicial appointments and we've landed back in the middlge ages.

Presently, the administration has approved the distribution of brochures to National Parks that explains that the Grand Canyon was formed by the "Noah" flood. No biblical scholar worth anything would support that, assuming you'd ever bother to go past the clear scientific fact that the Colorado River formed the Grand Canyon. but this is where we are headed. If you don't think the plans to attack Iran are not already going into place, think again. the US is the modern day crusaders and marching through those muslim heathens is at the top of this administrations agenda. with oil and control of the european and pacific rim economies as the ultimate prize and the lives of 1000's of American kids as the "collateral damage".

You can do alot more to pursue an agenda when you invoke the power of religion behind it and that is what Mr. Rove, the republican party architect has done and is continuing to do.
It is how he got W elected in the first place as Governor of Texas.

For those of you who say to stop all this discussion and/or complacently accept the results, this is not about accepting the election results and just waiting to see what happens each clip of four years. Richard Nixon thought he was above the law and I think W thinks that same way and if you want to wait 4 years for that to play out, whoa.

I'm neither a democrat or republican. I believe in all our liberty and the constitution and respect for everyone's rights; and, those are every day issues, not issues to be addressed only each 4 years when the two major parties come out to engage in their idiocy and dreams of world domination. 4 years is a long time to "wait and see".

Heybatter:

Write your congressman and give us a break!

Frankly there are a couple of you on this thread who scare me more than the worry of what will happen in the whitehouse in four years.

Tenn- Thanks yet again for proving my point. Don't tell me what to do. I'm not telling you what to do. It's called freedom pal. Try letting others have it. Being on the "right" doesn't make you so. Why is your opinion ok to post but not mine.

I'll give Blue Dog all the credit in the world. I won't say I agree with much of anything that he says, but I don't see him attacking anyone personally or telling them what to do. You want him to stop, you want me to stop.

I also see from your post above that you're apparently only allowed to have an opinion when there is an election at hand. Well, it is certainly your prerogative to shut your brain down for the next four years if that's what you want to do. I'll exercise my own personal freedom if that is all right with you. Don't read what I have to say. It's a free counrty... well I guess it used to be.

I am pretty sick of your whinning and attacking everyone who doesn't agree with you!

I have (not) expressed an opinion on way or another except this:

"Everybody has their own views and I am glad we live in a nation where everyone can voice theirs."

Your one of those people that loves to argue and debate. You have expressed your opinion many times and we have heard you load and clear each and every time you voiced it!

Here is your opinion: If you don't like the subject you can go to one of the other threads because I am going to do what I want no matter what anyone else thinks. This is America! I have rights! You can't shut me up!

Try me!

I lost the election so I am going to whine for 4 freakin years. Now I am telling you to give it a rest or I will close this thread and every other political thread you start! This is a baseball website not your own personal political moan and groan forum!

OOOOOOO scary face. Listen I didn't start this thread first of all and while I've defended myself, I have not attacked any board member. I've addressed the subject. YOU have made this personal.

And no, despite your comment you don't welcome everyone's expression, only those that agree with you.

Close the thread. Cancel freedom of speech. Go burn some books if you want. You want to threaten and intimidate me. Go ahead. You just keep proving my point again and again.

I welcome freedom of discussion, you want to control and censor it. You have stated so yourself in your last post.

BTW Tenn- and again contrary to your post, you have not heard me once. It is more than obvious.
Might help if you posted on the topic instead of posting about me.

Also, if this is just a baseball site, you better start censoring much more than this thread.

And also, if it's just a baseball site, why is news of the war being posted on the opening page news scroll.

Some of y'all would do well to read this column.James Lileks: Save 'evil' for true treachery

You may have to sign in to the web site.

Speaking of "Bob" he asked everyone not to talk about only two subjects on this website because they caused so much trouble here in the past.

(1)Religion and (2)politics.

Just give it a rest! I know you didn't start this thread but you are very much a big part of keeping it going.

PS: To answer your question! If you asked "Bob" who could speak for him I think you would get about 15 names. Mine, Bama Bomber, Hiwassee Vol and Jolly Roger would be 4 of them.

PSS: I am having a Book Buring party tonight and you are not invited! Ronald Reagan was the best president in my life time and Bill Clinton got the best lap dances! Richard Nixon got what he deserved and I still like Jimmy Carter.

I'm closing this thread and any more on politics.