Tagged With "Pitching"

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UCL Tear?

AlexisLefty ·
Hi guys,   I am a senior left handed pitcher in high school. It has been difficult for me to pitch and do well throughout my high school career because of my elbow. During my 8th to late 9th grade year, I dealt with growth plate problems in my...
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Pitching Analysis// (In game)//Delivery Help.

LorenzoSupino ·
Thought's, Feedback and Criquting are welcomed! Thanks!   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmIf4XADuPU
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The Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" August 10th & 11th at CBC

ThrowHarderFaster ·
Throw Harder Faster is a velocity development academy inside of Carolina Baseball Center and we are excited to bring you The Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" August 10th & 11th at CBC. The Armory has developed 37 pitchers that have eclipsed the 90 mph barrier since its owner, Randy Sullivan, established academy in February 2011. Incredibly, six of these 90 mph pitchers just finished their freshman year of high school, class of 2016. As a licensed physical therapist and owner of...
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Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" Aug 10-11th at CBC

ThrowHarderFaster ·
Throw Harder Faster is a velocity development academy inside of Carolina Baseball Center and we are excited to bring you The Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" August 10th & 11th at CBC. The Armory has developed 37 pitchers that have eclipsed the 90 mph barrier since its owner, Randy Sullivan, established academy in February 2011. Incredibly, six of these 90 mph pitchers just finished their freshman year of high school, class of 2016. As a licensed physical therapist and owner of...
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External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
Check out my articles on the topic. ...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

SultanofSwat ·
Are you advocating forearm 'flop/lay back' backwards with your forearm at 90 degrees? Is that what MLB pitchers do? In video 3, you are advocating using weighted balls to increase your range of motion in external rotation. Why does my ROM need to increase? What is the ideal ROM angle?
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jimster ·
Essentially, yes. And depending on what major leaguers you look it, it is what I tend to see. I would like to promote more of a focus of 90 degrees with the angle of your back, but there are guys that very on this part of mechanics. I have found that when my external rotation is at its max potential, the rest of my mechanics are where I want them to be. I will address the rest of your questions in two ways. ROM can refer to both static and dynamic ROM. A good way to tell the differences is...
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Ohio Dad ·
Just to add two cents, most of the players I work with have too much external rotation and not enough internal rotation. Most players that develop elbow issues have this exact imbalance: Internal Rotation Deficit. Not trying to be negative or argumentative in any way, but just what I have seen over 20 years. Not sure why a player would want to create that type of imbalance of ER to IR. additionally, it is not just the shoulder (glenohumeral joint) that allows these folks to get into these...
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jimster ·
Do you have an example of a pitcher who has that issue? I'm curious to see an example of a pitcher with that issue. Throughout the process of changing my arm action and overall mechanics, I was pretty consistently told that I have good internal rotation, when my external rotation was poor. So that is something I have little to no focus on that part of my mechanics. I also did very little research on internal research in general, so I am not very knowledgeable about the issues associated with...
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SUAWTG ·
Jimster- The DriveLine article you reference in your write up talks about the IR issues. Specifically the Sleeper Stretch. This is all new to me but has become a hot topic in my household since my son has developed scapular issues. He has very limited IR on his throwing arm compared to his non-throwing arm. This is typical of throwers acording to his Physical Therapist. Also he has been doing Jaeger bands 3 times a week for 2 years now and they are great for the rotator cuff, but don't do...
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jimster ·
I remember the part the article a little. Is internal rotation lack of ROM just referencing a static stretch comparison or you're mentioning? Or is their something when those pitchers throw that show an issue too. I have read about pitchers having the issue your son is having, but I have not heard of any issues in the actual pitching motion. Similar to how I talk external rotation. You can see the level of external rotation you achieve. Is there something that you can see when you look at...
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SUAWTG ·
I am not sure of a way to tell in the actual throwing motion. I am just a dad and know very little about this. The PT showed his lack of IR by comparing his IR via the Sleeper Stretch on both sides. His throwing side would not rotate without his shoulder blade moving forward with it. He had done normal stuff (only 14) not heavy lifting. Pushups and light weights etc.. Unfortunately if your scapular muscles are not activating then instead of these exercises making them stronger your body...
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Re: External Rotation-What it is and how to improve it

jimster ·
If you're interested in finding exercises to work those muscles you can search http://exrx.net/ . A great resource for anything related to working out. And free too. That's the best part. Also check out the body map here http://exrx.net/Lists/WtMale.html You click on the areas of the body that you want to find workouts for and it will show you stuff that you can do. If you are having him do push-ups, then you can add other body weight exercises to work the upper body as well. Pull ups and...
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Bulldog 19 ·
Anybody want to take a guess on how many baseball players I've stretched into external rotation of the shoulder? Volleyball hitters? That's right--- Exactly ZERO. They already have excessive ER and by stretching it, all I would do is stress the already stressed joint..
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jimster ·
Not everyone has excessive or complete external rotation nor am I promoting static stretching of it. Or any type of stretching. My article talks improving arm action so external rotatiom(that naturally occurs)can happen. I don't really understand the purpose of your post and it seems kind of combative. If you have seething to add to the conversation, please do. But please add comments that relate to the topic on hand. Thanks!
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Online Pitching Training

VirginiaHS ·
I'm not the most active on here, but I love reading through the different discussions! Being a parent of a young, aspiring pitcher is challenging. I've got a 5 year old boy and a 2 year old boy, so I'm getting ready to start that journey myself (wish me luck)! To give you a little background on myself, I pitched in the Royals and Blue Jays organizations for 6 seasons. I spent 2 1/2 of those seasons on the DL. When my career came to an end, I really wanted to stay involved in baseball, so I...
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Pitching vs, Catching

TideFanRTR ·
We have a 2022 kid (5'7" & 175 lbs) and are looking for advise. He is a RHP and his top FB velocity last summer was 79. He is part of a competitive travel team and participated in five PG tournaments summer/fall and made the All-Tournament Teams in four of the five for pitching and all five for hitting. (The one he missed for pitching was due to an injury where he did not pitch. ) I understand the All-Tournament Teams is not a big deal but mention it as back ground information. He also...
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Va Pro Pitching + Catching Clinic. Learn from the Pros

VA Pro Pitching ·
Whats up everyone? 2 players here, Connor Jones (Great Bridge HS, Chesapeake -> UVA -> St. Louis Cardinals) and Alec Bettinger (Hylton Hs, Woodbridge -> UVA -> Milwaukee Brewers) here. We are both obviously from VA. Friends since playing for the Canes together, Teammates at UVA, and we are both in Tidewater this offseason. We wanted to take the opportunity to try and team up to continue to influence Youth baseball in VA. In addition to lessons, we are running at 6 week pitching...
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Final Summer Select Team Tryouts 15U, 16U, 17U, 18U

Marshals Baseball ·
Final Tryouts 15U-18U Marshals Summer 2018 teams SUMMER SELECT TEAM TRYOUTS WHAT: Marshals 15U-18U Tryouts WHEN: Saturday, January 20 TIME: 2:00 P.M. WHERE: Richardson Pearce High School Baseball Field 1600 N Coit Rd, Richardson, TX 75080 BRING: - Baseball appropriate clothing & gear - Water We are called the McKinney Marshals, but we have teams and athletes across the Metroplex and North Texas. Athletes come to play with us from across the state of Texas and Oklahoma. Teams practice in...
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Online pitching evaluation service - any recommendations?

2020-RHP-Dad ·
I am a long-time lurker here and this is my first time post. Needless to say, I have learned a lot from this board - many thanks to all the posters. As my username reveals, my son is a 2020 RHP. He attends a competitive baseball school in the DFW area. He made varsity as a freshman and now again as a sophomore, but will have to battle to see decent innings this season. I have tried to help him myself mostly, but would like to try a qualified pitching expert who can view video and make...
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Pitching

Spartans42 ·
I am currently 14 years old (8th grade), and I’m 5’10 145 pounds. I am a LHP and I throw 75 off the mound and I also have a pretty good change up at around 62 mph. Am I a potential D1 prospect
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Pitching Coach in MD/DE/PA/NJ?

LetItGo ·
I didn't want to have to start a new thread, but the last post on this topic was over a year ago. In search of a pitching coach in the DE/MD/NJ/PA area - will travel a bit for the right program. I have a 2020 RHP. Thanks in advance.
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16u pitcher launched a channel to help younger kids learn how to pitch. Needs your support and input.

Sirloindameaty ·
Hey Guys. Hope this is the right place to post this...I just read a previous post about how there are less kids signing up for baseball and some who are unsure of continuing in the sport. Well there are some kids who are out there trying to reverse that trend. One of them created a channel called Pitching Tutors on You tube. If you have a minute, go check out the content and give your feedback. Whether it's support or constructive criticism, any engagement of content creators will help to...
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Pitching

Matt16G ·
Should pitchers worry about speed and agility? If so, what should they do to train?
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Pitching Coaches

House of Bowden ·
I've got two lefty boys - 18 and 16.  Looking for a GOOD pitching coach in the Richardson, Plano, Dallas area.  I would love any suggestions!
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2020 just wants to pitch.......

LuvMyKids ·
Hello everyone, Been lurking for a while and just got up the nerve to ask for some advice. To give you a little background, I have a 2020 that started playing baseball about 3 years ago. At the time he was the chubby kid, not much talent but if he wanted it, his mom and I were going to support him. He was about 5'6" and weighed 200. He is an A student as well. He had never pitched before and because of his age during the upcoming season he was expected to pitch. We decided to seek out a...
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Re: Minimum Velocity to pitch in college

57special ·
Keep in mind that a pitcher who throws 90, even once, has that follow him around for life. Even more so, a pitcher who throws 90 for a period of time, say a fall PG season. What I am seeing at the senior HS level is pitchers whose Velo has dropped off. Saw one LHP ( lower D1) who has a nasty curve and hit 85-86 consistently last fall is now low 80's and getting hit. Another RHP who hit 88 ( lower D1) as a 16 yo is now low 80's at 18 yo. Another who threw low 90's, sat high 80's(P5) is now...
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MrBumstead ·
30 mph That's the approximate minimum velo required for the ball to travel 60'-6" at a 45 degree launch angle. Anything less and the ball cannot possibly cross the plate. (Please excuse the pathetic engineering humor. )
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smokeminside ·
I coulda hit 30.
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Backstop22 ·
We saw a few 75-77's at a lower level academic D3 in the MW, but for a RH pitcher, I would say there are few who peak at 79 or lower who ever get the chance to pitch in college baseball from what we saw. Even at the Academic tryouts for the AZ Senior Classic, if a kid was not at least 85 in the morning tryouts, he was not invited to the Academic game. Of course for lefties, there is more of opportunity for "crafty lefties" but there does not seem to be any equivalent for RHPs unless they are...
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Re: Minimum Velocity to pitch in college

cabbagedad ·
This subject has been hammered countless times here... some of the data from PG and others are great. But agree with Pia Ump for short, quick answer... "80's" gets you somewhere when it's the kind that you know it when you see it. There are always stories about guys in 70's and they are true. But here is a twist on those guys that doesn't often get discussed. I think that most of those guys were not recruited as P's. They did something else as a position player and due to a variety of...
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57special ·
Just looked in on a Northwestern v Notre Dame game. Two guys came in from the bullpen for NWU. One's fastball sat 77-79(high of 80), and another 79-81(high 83). Their breaking pitches looked OK, but they couldn't throw consistent strikes with them. I bet somewhere there is a record of them throwing 87 mph.
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Nonamedad ·
Son is a pitcher, let's just say we have been very encouraged watching SEC baseball on Saturday on ESPN. Been seeing a lot of figures that look like snowmen in the little velocity box on TV. I hate seeing those pesky critters on my golf scorecard, but for a HS junior who has been told his whole life that you need to be 90+ to play D1its a nice surprise for my kid.
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2019OF ·
@Nonamedad Is right on point. All you hear is 90 90 90, but the games say 87 87 87. Now can those guys hit it once off a turf mound indoors? Probably, but they aren't all throwing that in game.
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StrainedOblique ·
Velo numbers are huge at the recruiting level but don't mean a whole lot in a NCAA D1 game . HC's throw guys that get outs . Period. It doesn't matter if it's crossing the plate at 83 mph . But HS parents of low velo pitchers be forewarned , That doesn't mean that they recruit guys that ' get outs' at the HS level. 85 on the left side / 88 on the right are the magic numbers for Mid-Upper Division 1 baseball.
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#1 Assistant Coach ·
HS underdog team making deep run in state playoffs recently vs a nationally ranked team. Underdog team, starting RHP at 5-8, 140, and sitting 73-75 was untouched through 3.1 innings. With score tied at 0-0 after 3 1/3, and a runner on 2nd due to Error, coaches assumed game would be decided by 1 or 2 runs, so they bring in their Big Gun who sits 88-90, tops at 92, to shut it down. Got shelled. Balls flying all over the field. Place went from cow pasture to construction site in an instant.
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3and2Fastball ·
Within 5 years I predict that spin rate will have a much bigger influence on who gets recruited where, but for now 80's is not likely enough to get you recruited to an SEC school to pitch. Maybe 88/89. Maybe...
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Rob T ·
There's a kid that was a Jr RHP on my son's team last season. He pitched a total of 1 inning the entire season. Didn't get on the mound at all this season. He couldn't hit 80 if he was throwing downhill off the Empire State Building. He's "signed" with a D3 to play next year. Of course: It's an out of state academic D3. They have 60 guys on the "roster" He's paying about $65,000 a year to go there. But hey, A guy throwing in the 70's can pitch in college.
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3and2Fastball ·
Over the years I've seen plenty of pitchers throwing in the mid-70's in D3. They might have hit 80 something once or twice throwing in a Showcase. But in games they are cruising in the 70's. They aren't pitching, generally, for a powerhouse D3 that regularly attends the NCAA Regionals, but in lower level D3's? Yes. The key, as with anything in life really, is getting opportunities and then taking advantage of those opportunities when you get them. A recruit throwing in the 70's is going to...
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2022NYC ·
+1, I will be borrowing this line
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JMMS ·
I'm seeing a lot of shifting in the college game now. I feel that locating your pitches is the most important thing to work on for young pitcher. Is it really impressive to watch a kid throw 93+ only look a the box score and see 45+ pitches after first 2 innings.
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old_school ·
My sons D3 played a very competitive schedule, they were ranked in the top 20 SOS according to the whatever criteria the NCAA uses. I am sure it is a pretty comprehensive comparison of the higher D3 level. I think 14 of our 40 games season were vs teams playing in the Regional somewhere. We see mostly low 80's, some higher, occasionally lower usually lefty junk ballers, a very few in the high 80's.
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3and2Fastball ·
The thing is, there are more & more high school kids every year who can do both (throw 93 and locate). I'm a huge fan of Greg Maddux. The pitchers who can really move the ball are fun to watch. The thing is, the lower velocity pitcher has way less margin for error. If he gets in a game where his secondary pitches aren't working, and his fastball ain't moving, he is gonna get flat out hammered. While it is true that great hitters can sit on any velocity and crush it, the higher velocity...
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Nonamedad ·
I invite you to watch this Saturday on ESPN college baseball (it's exclusively SEC where I am) to check velocity numbers. 90+ is the exception not the rule and that's mostly closers. Many times a velocity won't be shown, my conspiracy mind tells me it's because the number is too low. You may need 88-90 to get recruited, but anyone with eyes and a TV can see you don't need those numbers to pitch in the SEC, which is hardly mid level D1. Watch the CWS, ESPN now shows many regional games, you...
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d-mac ·
I agree with you and I watch a lot of college baseball, specifically the SEC. As an Arkansas fan, our Friday night guy is 92-95, Saturday is a LHP that is mostly 88-90, and Sunday is a guy that has had arm issues who will be anywhere from 89-96. The closer is 94-96 and the top two relievers are 88-89 and 90-95. The only teams with arms like that as far as I know are Florida and Oregon State which are basically the top 3 teams in the country. Most teams have a dude on Friday night and a few...
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Nonamedad ·
Went to the Big 12 tournament a few years back, WVA vs Baylor, WVA lefty never hit 80 and the Baylor righty never hit 88. Stadium gun in OKC bricktown.
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2019Dad ·
I agree that high velo is helpful, and I agree that college coaches feel confident . . . but if you look at the percentage of recruits who wash out, don't see the field, transfer, etc., I'd argue that that confidence is misplaced (I know you said "great college coaches" but I suspect that the not-so-great coaches have the same confidence). Very often a college coach will have seen a recruit play just a few times, perhaps a half-dozen. Their ability to assess and project is not nearly as good...
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3and2Fastball ·
For every 90's velocity kid who ends up being a bust, there's 3 more waiting in line to take his spot (or so it seems at least!)
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2019Dad ·
Right on cue, Baseball America article today on this topic: www.baseballamerica.com/storie...ort-of-expectations/ "I think for a long time, in general, we as an industry have been very bad at how we evaluate high school pitching,” an American League crosschecker said. "We keep doing the same thing over and over again. These flamethrower guys get pushed up toward the top. If the guy is not throwing 100 (mph) he’s not as high on lists. But look at the guys who keep actually showing up in the...
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Re: Minimum Velocity to pitch in college

baseballhs ·
So if there are scouts in the stands and you are throwing hard but just missing, do you let up on speed a little bit to get more accuracy, or keep throwing hard? This has been a discussion in our house about the summer.
 
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