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Leader or divider?

Iowamom23 ·
Over the years coaches have told my son they expect him to be a leader. Particularly when he catches, they have encouraged him to help direct other players, encourage players etc. (he's a sophomore in high school, just playing spring ball). This weekend, batter hit hard to the outfield, second baseman was cutoff as runner headed to third. Second baseman, a friend of my son's, caught the ball from outfield, and made a very fast and very high throw to third that missed totally. Runner went...
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Florida State Fan ·
Sounds like your son did the right thing, that's exactly what I would expect from my catcher. You may want to ask the coach to stop drinking during games.
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old_school ·
I don't believe the kid did anything wrong, I believe it is close to impossible for a sophomore to be a leader on the field. If it is possible it would be by the way of actions and positive play, communication on field during a play or hustle. After the fact pick me ups or criticisms are probably just not going to be well received. My son was 10th grade starter and the truth is Sr's don't want to hear from a kid they have to give a ride to because he is so much younger, they are fine with...
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2020dad ·
Coach2709 you make some great points. As I have gotten old and crusty I have really called into question how much you want any player to 'lead'. I have come to the conclusion the coach needs to be the only true leader. Now I know occasionally there is that special player. I have had a few. Who you trust to lead. But for the most part it should be the coach. Purely an opinion of course. Not sure how any of us could prove what's best. When an error is made my preference is to say nothing. Move...
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luv baseball ·
If ball hit in the corner by a fast runner and the RF picks it up and the Batter tries for 3rd is the most likely scenario for a 2B making a throw as described. That is probably all of a 300 foot throw and would require a cutoff. On a base hit with runner going 1st to 3rd or a runner tagging from 2nd should never happen unless RF made a mistake and threw the ball to the 2nd baseman who is likely to have been the closest fielder to him from the infield. Although in these scenarios you can see...
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coach2709 ·
In all honesty I'm with you quite a bit on this. I don't believe in Seniors are the leaders because what if you have a bad group? You're committed to them being the "leaders" although they are a horrible group. This can set your program back a couple of years if it's bad enough. I don't believe in having a small group more important than the rest of the team. Why should Johnny be able to boss Frankie around when both are on the same team? I agree the coaches are the leaders and we will model...
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PWPW ·
I can think of a few things to add to this conversation. The first thing is about player leadership. We coaches don't decide which players are leaders. The players do. Even if you don't want any players to be leaders, they will. Kids are going to follow other kids. Some teams have kids that lead others in the right direction and some have kids that lead teams in the wrong direction. Most teams I've coached have both. The key for us is getting the bad leaders to lead them in the right...
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JCG ·
I think in this case the issue may be that talking about the bad throw that already happened is not productive at that point, and like everything else in the past should be left for the coaches to discuss after the game or in the next practice. But calming everybody down, going over the current situation after the error, and telling the 2nd baseman it's ok, don't worry about it, let's get the next out -- all that is the kind of leadership that is needed at that point and that your son is...
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hshuler ·
It's hard to say but the "no need to force the throw" part may have been taken as coaching. Do you think it's worth it for your son to ask the coach what he didn't like? If he doesn't know what he did wrong, he'll be reluctant to say much. Has he been told anything like this before?
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cabbagedad ·
That's always tough. We coaches are often pushing these young kids, particularly catchers, to be vocal leaders. But they are young kids. In the heat of the battle, what are the chances they are going to say just the right thing just the right way? I can see where the coach wouldn't agree with the statement being thrown out not to rush the throw since it already happened and that can sorta come off as admonishment instead of encouragement, regardless of intent or tightness of friendship...
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Go44dad ·
Iowamom, I think you are thinking too hard about the briefest of interchanges between coach and player.
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2020dad ·
I am still wondering how a 2nd baseman would ever be a cutoff for ANYTHING let alone a first to third situation???
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Go44dad ·
double cut on a triple at Coors field?
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2020dad ·
Lol. That's about it I suppose. On a high school diamond I can't conceive a situation where there is both A. A ball in the corner and B. Any sort of inkling there would be a play at third. So I am confused. I think what we have here is a right fielder tossing it to the 2nd baseman as a relay. Why I don't know. If a right fielder can't throw directly to third he is not a right fielder.
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FoxDad ·
Yes, a good RF'er should be able to gun it to 3rd, but not all HS teams have great fielders in right. Most likely it's the weakest arm of the all the outfield. Besides most of the time the kids are coached to throw to the cut off man. For a right fielder that would be the second baseman or the first baseman if the play may be at home.
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2020dad ·
Not to hijack... But no that cut off is the as not the 2b. Unless of course it is a double cut in which case it is the 2b or as depending on the throw - but not both. And on a double cut situation there would never be a play at third on the runner. The batter-runner maybe if home is conceded for any runners that were in base. So just a confusing situation as described.
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GoHeels ·
I was thinking the same thing! Only a double-cut situation would have the 2b touching the ball. Where was the SS???? Anyhow, there is absolutely nothing that the OP quoted that I would be upset with as a coach. A great team is one who has a few "field generals" actually on the playing field!
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ClevelandDad ·
I don't think the young catcher did anything wrong. Perhaps he can show his leadership quietly when they get back into the dugout and remind the 2b that "I've made that mistake before myself when I try and rush my throws to pick a kid off stealing 2b. I know you can make that throw with accuracy. Give yourself a chance to set yourself without rushing and make the accurate throw. I know you will make it perfectly next time." Similarly, I don't see why the coach didn't handle it the same way.
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CaCO3Girl ·
The proof is in the reaction of the second basemen. If he gave your son the eat crud and die look then yes the coach was right in calling him a divider. However, I suspect your son knows that kid better than the coach does since the team has been together all of a minute and made the right call. The catcher is the only position on the field that every player MUST listen to. If he yells cut-three then that is what the team does. It's his voice that controls that infield and where the ball...
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2020dad ·
To address the OP's specific question... I think what we have here is a failure to communicate! I would guess the kind of leadership the coach was looking for would be the catcher being vocal in terms of directing play. Such as cut calls, reminding of outs & situations IN ADVANCE of the pitch/play. Examples: to pitcher with bases loaded less than 2 outs - you and me on the comebacker. Man on second up two runs to the first and possibly third baseman depending on the coach - remember to...
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2forU ·
The coach is completely in the wrong. Who cares how 2b got the ball, the fact is he had it and made a bad throw, that's it, happens all the time. I'd encourage your son to talk to his coach and simply have a conversation about what he expects a leader to be and adjust or not. He'll learn something new every day the more he keeps putting himself out there and the coach should as well.
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GoHeels ·
I viewed the comments as generally reassuring and supportive, not divisive at all.
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Iowamom23 ·
sorry, I can't say why something or if it was right or wrong. Just that second baseman got the ball and made the throw.
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coach2709 ·
This is not an issue and doesn't need to be turned into one. I can see why the kid said what he said. I can see why the coach said what he said. It was a heat of the moment thing and can be easily overcome unless people are super sensitive. I do believe the catcher needs to talk to the coach to understand exactly what he wants in terms of leadership. Here's the problem I see - how many coach talk about leadership? Every single one of them. But how many actually TEACH leadership? Rarely does...
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Gov ·
"no need to force the throw" was the negative piece that likely got the Coach's attention. The 2Bman likely didn't care for that part of the comment either, regardless of the players relationship. The next time the catcher makes a poor throw down to 2B, that's not a comment he'd like to hear. At the end, not a big deal, as young players they'll all learn from simple situations and simple language like this. The players are learning how to "pick their team-mates up". They need their...
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Gov ·
Excellent comments guys!
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2020dad ·
Welcome my fellow 2020... Hopefully we can be on here a long time together, but.... I must disagree with a catcher coming out and saying much of anything significant to a pitcher. Yes I am bias as a long time pitching guy and now father of a pitcher. Yes there are times you have to waste time for a guy to warm up and send your catcher out to the mound. A conversation about pizza will work. Anything else, as a pitcher I would tell him to go back where he belongs. Just me.
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CaCO3Girl ·
Humm....weird....2020dad I know you have WAY more experience than I do in the baseball world but I have to say your take on this is not what I thought it would be. When my 2020 catches he has been told by multiple coaches that if you see the pitcher struggling walk the ball back to him and say a few words to get him to calm down. Maybe tell him where the umpire is liking it today, tell him a joke, or call him a wuss, do what you need to do to get that pitcher out of his own head.
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PWPW ·
We don't disagree at all my friend. If you, as a pitcher, would react to the catcher in that manner, then it's the catcher's job to know this. In knowing this, the catcher wouldn't help you throw strikes by saying anything so he shouldn't say anything. We ARE going to have many years here together discussing baseball! We are agreeing without even realizing it! I should also add it is the catcher's job to gain the trust of the pitcher also. Otherwise it's impossible to have those talks on the...
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2020dad ·
I think this goes back to the original point of how we define leadership. Again I look at that more as a coache's job. But truthfully as a coach I made very few mound visits that did not result in the hook. I live by the words first taught to me by Gordie Gillespie - "a pitcher shows no emotion". And an extrapolation of that would be a pitcher HAS no emotions. If my pitcher is somehow shook up or something has gotten in his head it's time for him to sit next to me. And I am very serious...
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2020dad ·
Wow Caco, I just realized we have three 2020 posters in a row... Are we all in trouble now? (Said with smile in a good mood on a Friday - please don't force me into my foxhole!)
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Pitching Coach in MD/DE/PA/NJ?

LetItGo ·
I didn't want to have to start a new thread, but the last post on this topic was over a year ago. In search of a pitching coach in the DE/MD/NJ/PA area - will travel a bit for the right program. I have a 2020 RHP. Thanks in advance.
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Paid Baseball Coaching Position with New and Exciting Program!

Kellen ·
Attention baseball fans! I am in search of interested coaches wanting to be involved in America's Pastime with a new and exciting youth baseball organization! This is a paid position to lead a youth baseball team in practices and tournaments while...
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Brian ·
I live in maryville tn. Been around baseball all my life. Coached and umpire. 40 years of age.
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mdjst5 ·
I am very interested in this. I live in Pittsburgh.
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victorleo ·
How the batting cage are beneficial for practicing the baseball? What you think? Here is http://www.slideshare.net/pitc...atting-inside-a-cage
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Pitching Coaches

House of Bowden ·
I've got two lefty boys - 18 and 16.  Looking for a GOOD pitching coach in the Richardson, Plano, Dallas area.  I would love any suggestions!
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FriarFred ·
There are several in the area but check with Mike Bacsik on availability. Mike (famous for giving up Barry Bond 756 while with Nationals) is great and a lefty. We also like Jordan Davis who coaches for the Dallas Mustangs. Jordan pitched in college and is really good as well. Good luck!
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House of Bowden ·
Thanks, FriarFred! We just set up a lesson with Linty Ingram's, Centerfield Academy. We'll see how it goes. Where does Mike Bacsik work from?
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FriarFred ·
He used to work out of the HP Scots facility but think he does at sportsplex now. He is also radio host on 105.3 The Fan so typically only did/does 1 day a week. Good luck and just curious what district your sons are in. I have a 2018 LHP myself
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House of Bowden ·
Okay, we know Sportsplex. We'll see how it goes with Centerfield and if it doesn't work out, we might look up Mike. We are in Richardson ISD. If you're in HP, we'll be seeing you around!
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lefty03Dad ·
How the lessons go at center field? Mike Evens at Scouts Training facility in Richardson is good. He has a lot of information at evenspresureball.com. I have a 2019 Lefty as well. Just finished DBU velocity camp. Coach Parry was excellent.
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House of Bowden ·
Hi LEFTY03DAD - Coach Matt Otteman has been FANTASTIC at Centerfield Academy! He's been working with both of my boys on pitching but hitting as well! My oldest has now hit his third home run in practice. Hoping it will pay off in a game. My youngest has had a lot of physical therapy and Coach Otteman is also studying to be a chiropractor so he knows how to help my boys with stretching, strength and flexibility! I'll look at the link you posted. Thanks!
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lefty03Dad ·
Had a lesson with Linty Ingram over spring break. I will be spending bulk of summer at Centerfield to get ready of sophomore year. Does much of what TBR and Driveline without the cost.
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CatsPop ·
Sent you a PM, might not be too helpful, but you never know.
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9and7dad ·
Have you looked at Maplezone outside Philadelphia?
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Initech ·
Which state are you located in?
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LetItGo ·
MD/DE line
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Re: Looking for good pitching coach in greater Philadelphia, PA area - recommendations?

2019&21 Dad ·
Thanks for all the suggestions so far, both public and private. He's coming off an elbow injury that kept him out of school ball and just getting into a return to throw program under guidance of a baseball specialist PT, along with a baseball specialist strength and conditioning guy in the area. Looking to pair that up with someone to help him throw in a good pattern for both health and increased velocity, which he needs. Understand there's inherent health risk in throwing/pitching, but want...
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Experienced coaches wanted in Texas and Oklahoma

Marshals Baseball ·
Experienced coaches sought for coaching elite summer teams across Texas and Oklahoma. Depending on quality of players, teams can be local teams, state teams, regional teams or even national teams. email dhadeler@uselitebaseball.com, or text 972-841-3744.
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