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Re: The 411 on helping your son play College Baseball

Rocky Alvarez ·
Letsgo: You say, "the ivies will give the most reasonable needs based financial aid." They don't differentiate between students and athletes. Ivys go by a simple formula. If you make good money, even though your boy is a stud, expect to play $80,000. You will pay the same any family will pay with the same financial situation. Many D3s can work with parents and will offer specific academic scholarships or grants to help families pay the tuition. I have found D3s have much more leeway than the...
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Re: The 411 on helping your son play College Baseball

Rocky Alvarez ·
JCJ: Again, 77% of D3 schools have a student body under 2,999. https://www.ncaa.org/sites/def..._edited_20180119.pdf
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Re: The 411 on helping your son play College Baseball

Rocky Alvarez ·
Oh, and for all you high brows who dispute that D3 athletes have signing ceremonies, here you go: https://www.dpsk12.org/dps-sen...ational-signing-day/ Go ahead, disparage them you supportive community, you!
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RJM ·
Ivys go by a simple formula. If you make good money, even though your boy is a stud, expect to play $80,000. Once again, not true. A family with one kid, a 100K income and 500K in assets pays under 25K per year for Harvard. 125K, under 30K per year. 150K, under 35K per year
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letsgo!!! ·
I was not insinuating that other schools cannot provide merit based aid..i.e. academic scholarships. I was simply pointing out that as it relates to the "formula" that ivies apply to needs based aid, they are much more generous than most other institutions. At least that was my experience. I think it's important for families to understand if they aren't making six figures the ivies may be more affordable than they could imagine. If you value that type of education/experience it may be worth...
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letsgo!!! ·
I think everyone is splitting hairs on this......I would encourage everyone to have a signing ceremony....its a great accomplishment/milestone. Signing an nli, however, comes with quite a few strings...its at that point that the verbal commitment becomes an actual binding agreement.....that can only be undone with actual reprecusions.
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Rocky Alvarez ·
Letsgo!!, I just read your other post. Yes, if you come from a family that is not well off and you have D1 talent, you have the possibility of going for peanuts. I know many players might want to choose an LSU over a Harvard, but man, that Harvard degree will be worth its weight in gold.
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Rocky Alvarez ·
RJM: "Good money" for me is over $200,000. I guess it's all relative. Don't forget to add housing, meal plans, and travel costs. It all adds up.
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JCG ·
All i did was quote you. Unlike you i made no personal, ad hominim attacks. Where are the admins?
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Swampboy ·
The admins are here, and this thread is closed. Rocky, it’s bad form to post a link to an outside source as your first post and then get aggressively defensive when members take the trouble to read your article and share their honest reactions to it. If you want to continue posting here, play more nicely.
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Re: Do Scouts value HS baseball enough for a player to toil In a bad program

can-o-corn ·
My son played for what is probably the only HS in America to have 3 first round draft picks and current Major Leaguer's as well as a good number of other good college level players transfer out. It wasn't the coach was a jerk or anything like that, he just played players by their grade, not their talent and you didn't play varsity till 11th grade no matter how good you are. Imagine a first overall pick playing JV in the 10th grade. In 5 years on the team my son played in only 12 games at the...
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TPM ·
GOOSEGG, Was replying when you were. You are 100% correct, coaches don't recruit teams, they recruit players. I am a big believer that you don't have to be on a high profile team or break the bank doing showcases to get a scholarship. Usually it just becomes an excuse when the parent sees others getting offers early. I would concentrate on what's important, which might mean contacting programs that fit the players skills. Way to many want to play on programs that they will get lost at.
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Marshals 15U, 16U, 17U, 18U Tryouts Posted

McKinney Marshals ·
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Dallas Redhawks Baseball Club - Open Tryouts

drhawks ·
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Housing at a different college

2017_Grad ·
Hello, I don't know if anyone on this site knows or has done it, but I'll ask anyway. Is it possible if you attend classes and play baseball at (College A) but they don't have housing, can you live in a dorm and eat in (College B)? And can the baseball coach communicate that or should I go through the admissions office? Thank you in advance.
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Golfman25 ·
go to the one with the better girls.
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Go44dad ·
Which one does your son want to go to? I, if 35 years younger, would choose B. Would probably tell my son that if it was his decision. My son just last night had the choice of Freshman A basketball deep on the bench, or Freshman B basketball and most likely start. He took B. But his baseball decision might be different.
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Florida State Fan ·
I'll repeat what I learned here. Tell your son to go where he would love to go to school and baseball wasn't in the mix and where they love him back.
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bacdorslider ·
School B..... winning tradition is good, playing time is better, playing 4 years and maybe starting a winning tradition at school B priceless.
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DesertDuck ·
Pull out a pen and paper & write down ALL the pro's and con's to each option. Analyze & discuss, then ask him to make a decision. My personal choice would be option B.
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bigcubbiefan ·
Took the B route many years ago. No regrets. Knew if I went the A route would certainly be a pitcher only and definitely not be a starter until at least junior year. By taking the B route was able to be a two way player, near the top of the conference in innings pitched for three years, was part of team that made conference playoffs 3 of 4 years...school had only been once in history of the school before that, and played for a great man.
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Matt Reiland ·
My take would be school B, but that choice includes reasons that I was not mature enough to think about as a senior in HS. In addition to the playing time advantage and starting earlier in his college career, he will also have potential leadership opportunities on the team earlier on. A mentor once told me that good leadership = competence + character. The academics helps to get a leg up on the competence part of the equation; the baseball experience, and how he responds with the potential...
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nxt lvl ·
I have to echo the earlier answer given....who has the better lookin girls! lol
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Twoboys ·
I always worry (for my 2017 too) when we hear "guarantees" that you would be a starter or get X playing time NOW, up front. How can any coach know? Playing time is earned in my opinion -- and NOT given. A coach, whether a winning program or not, should want to put in the line up that he or she thinks gives the team the best chance to win. My son would plan to make it hard for a coach not to have him in that line up, no matter the preconceived notions. Any coach that is telling my son right...
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MidAtlanticDad ·
This part of the description stood out to me: "will likely start all 4 years at their chosen position." I would never make that assumption at any program, especially at D3. If the new coach is going to turn things around, he's going to do it primarily by finding better players. Sounds like school "A" has a track record of developing guys and playing more juniors and seniors. School "B" has no track record, so there is some risk involved. School "B" may still be the better choice, but...
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MomLW ·
The above responses are all good. I think I'd encourage my son to carefully consider Option B also because of the opportunity to play more. But, if his intuition causes him to lean toward one or the other (perhaps because of the coach or the school atmosphere or no reason at all), that should weigh heavily. Finally, as a praying person, I'd do a lot of that and encourage my son to do that as well.
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CmassRHPDad ·
Do they both pass the Tommy John test? Will he be happier at one or the other if baseball suddenly goes away?
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BishopLeftiesDad ·
So I would say go where he will be challenged. That can be choice A or B. Most players want to compete and be challenged. And not just by opposing teams. They want to be challenged by their team mates. one school came ay my son very hard. One of the coaches selling points was, "I cannot promise you will be a starter, but I know the talent I have, and you have more talent, than my current players." He was a new coach for this program, but not new to coaching. He had been a successful...
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Branson Baseball ·
A lot of great responses! We went through this same discussion with my 2016 last year. I agree with what MidAtlantic says. Every coach at every school is looking to bring in better talent every year. There are zero playing time guarantees anywhere IMHO. My boys wanted commitment from the coaching staffs for Spring roster spots in year one. And (ideally) a four year roster spot commitment to the player if he was working hard on and off the field and there are no disciplinary issues. Playing...
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Swampboy ·
Get a read on whether you think the new guy has what it takes to turn around the losing program. There's a special kind of pride that comes from being part of a successful turnaround. My son was part of a group that turned a 10-win team that was perennially in the bottom 10% of D1 RPI into a 35-win team with an RPI almost 150 spots higher than its customary level. These guys aren't/weren't pro prospects, but they have a lifetime bond and sense of accomplishment nobody can ever take away.
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JCG ·
I think I'd lean toward option B - I like the idea of being part of the group that creates a new tradition of winning rather than maintaining the status quo. But I agree with those who say that in either option A or B the player has to go in focused on winning playing time, regardless of any promises and expectations. I disagree somewhat with the premise of the question in that you can posit that all other things are equal between the two schools, but in the real world they are not. Food,...
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PGStaff ·
Probably a tad off topic, but I have heard so many times about players having to sit on the bench for two years before getting in the starting lineup. While I know this happens at times, what happens more often is the player sitting on the bench his first two years also ends up sitting on the bench his last two years. Or he no longer plays at that school. Or he no longer plays at all. Never understood guaranteed playing situations. Starting lineup as a freshman or becoming a starter after a...
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b i g m a c ·
Option B and play.
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Bogeyorpar ·
Agree with most posts -- option B. If you already know son is not a MLB prospect, why not go with a program that he can be in the starting lineup and have fun? Sitting on the bench is never fun and you can't get better either.
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Matt Reiland ·
Agreed - a lot changes from year to year. Especially at the higher-tier schools that bring in large classes of JC transfers. You may have "put in your time" for 2 years on the bench, but there is still the chance that your coach brings in a JC transfer to start over you.
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MDBallDad ·
As always there are an abundance of excellent responses to the question that provide both new insights and reinforcements of sound logical approaches. Always interested in the thoughts and ideas of this group. Thanks!
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3and2Fastball ·
Personally, my choice would be B where I'd have a good shot to play as a freshman. My son would likely choose A because he'd want to win and he'd want to be challenged for playing time. It depends on the individual personality. There is not one right or wrong answer
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IEBSBL ·
Wow, I am a tad bit shocked to read everyone advocating for the easier route. I guess what they say about today's society is true, nobody wants to take the hard road. College athletics is not about just athletics. Based on what OP put I would and I would want my son to attend program A. You are going to learn hard work, you are going to learn tradition, you are going to learn perseverance, you are going to learn patience, you are going to learn how to be a team player. Program B will hand...
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JCG ·
Interesting. I must have read a different OP.
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old_school ·
occasionally people get hit by lightening bolts and attached by sharks - pretty safe to assume the boy shouldn't be overly concerned about them. Every baseball person I spoken with has said roughly to the same to me, if you don't start or play regular Freshman or sophomore year you most likely won't play at all as an upperclassmen. That includes several college coaches.
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fenwaysouth ·
My son did select option B. As it turns out his team did win a conference championship his sophomore year....first in program history. A couple things went into his decision. First playing time has tremendous value in a very competitive major. His reasoning is if I'm not good enough to play, I could be doing things more related to my major or other interests. Second, the school he selected had more academic options (deeper and wider program) related to his major than his other choices. This...
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Dominik85 ·
playing time is never given even in a weaker program but I prefer playing and losing over winning and sitting any day. winning is more fun than losing and Baseball is a Team game but sitting is no fun.
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Coach_May ·
You just don't know. You can look at every opportunity and try to project where you fit in. You can have a coach tell you "we see you as a starter day one" "we believe you can compete for playing time day one" etc etc. But the fact is you just don't know. You could go to a D1 and play right away. You could choose a D2 and sit. The only thing you can do is go in and compete. You can be the 2nd best catcher in your entire conference and sit behind the best catcher in your conference. And that...
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mmm1531 ·
I think a lot may have to do with your son's personality. My son hated to lose at anything, he hated for his t ball team to lose, he hated to lose at board games, if his favorite pro sports team lost we knew to give him some space. I saw a video of his college baseball team competing against the lacrosse and hockey team in a fitness test, he wasn't going to let his team lose an event. This winning desire factored in to his decision on where to attend school and play baseball. He didn't want...
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nxt lvl ·
The only thing worse than losing is sitting and watching someone else play all year long . Starting as a freshman isnt necessary but I would like to see some action in at least a few games. Who wants to watch from the bench all year??
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Coach_May ·
How many players are on a college roster? At the D1 level 35. At the lower levels many more than that. How many play? Lets take position players. You will have 8 starters who play the vast majority of the innings. One catcher who will rotate from time to time. A DH. And maybe one guy who is a utility player. Let's call it 11 position players who see time. That leaves 24 players. Out of those 24 you will have 3 weekend starters and 2 midweek starters. Then you will have around 6 guys that get...
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CaCO3Girl ·
You are ONLY young once, he obviously loves the game and college will likely be his last chance to play. With all other things at the school being equal I would tell my son to go have fun playing his final years of baseball on team B, where he would actually PLAY.
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IEBSBL ·
A) You and I know a lot more MLB guys were written off out of HS than Shark Attacks and Lighting. B) What is the purpose of your statement about "Every Baseball Person"? I don't remember nor reading anything I wrote stating that is not true. I don't even remember thinking that, that was not true.
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Re: Housing at a different college

baseballmom ·
No. If College A does not offer housing & meals, (or are full of students) your kiddo may be able to find a host family or live otherwise off campus with or without roommates. If College B has housing & meal plans available, it is for registered students.
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CaCO3Girl ·
No, that is what off campus housing is used for. Colleges are not interconnected like that.
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